Portal QBs -look back

[regoratsginrom]

Sims was Rhule’s guy. Obviously that’s been a bust. Looking back are there other portal QBs that we could have had that have flourished elsewhere (that we realistically could have had)?

Was Drake May ever an option for us? Who else?

 

[ridge22]

Basically every QB in the Big Ten West is a Transfer in. May was never on the board. Ironically probably one of the most productive QB transfers for this year is Graham Mertz.

Logan Smothers is doing well for Jacksonville State.

 

[egaRdeR]

Basically every QB in the Big Ten West is a Transfer in. May was never on the board. Ironically probably one of the most productive QB transfers for this year is Graham Mertz.

Logan Smothers is doing well for Jacksonville State.

He has a QBR in the 30s. Maybe doing better than HH but in no way is he doing well.

 

[king_kong_]

very good question, OP.

for anyone who can actually be objective, taking a look at how last year's transfers are performing in year 1 at their new school is very illustrative and should give a great idea of what to expect going forward.

 

[Bugeater]

I'm still hoping they can get Rico to come out of the portal and be a Husker!

 

[king_kong_]

here's a comprehensive look at the top 30 transfer QBs from 2023 in their first year with their new school:

1. Sam Hartman (5th yr SR) - 7-3 record - 62.8%, 2,272 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. After throwing for 38 and 39 TDs last two years at Wake, he's on pace to significantly underperform those numbers.

2. Devin Leary (5th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 57.4%, 1,905 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Kentucky is significantly worse this year than last, and Leary is nowhere close to his 2021 production at NC St

3. Brennan Armstrong (6th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 58.8%, 971 yards, 5 TD, 6 INT. Armstrong is nowhere close to his 2021 production at UVA.

4. Tanner Mordecai (6th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 63.7%, 1,127 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production at SMU.

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

6. Sam Jackson V (3rd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 53.1%, 556 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT. Hasn't played since Sept 30th, got benched after frequent bouts of being hurt (not injured).

7. Brady Allen (2nd yr FR) - hasn't played, followed Brohm from Purdue to L'ville.

8. Hudson Card (4th yr JR) - 2-7 record - 57.8%, 1,861 yards, 9 TD, 8 INT. Worst season of his career by far.

9. Tayven Jackson (2nd yr FR) - 3-6 record (2-3 as starter) - 60.9%, 914 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT. Hasn't played since 10/14.

10. Shedeur Sanders (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 70.1%, 2,882 yards, 24 TD, 3 INT. Easily the best stats of the transfers, but little chance CU makes a bowl game and obviously a packaged deal with his father.

11. Payton Thorne (4th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 63.9%, 1,269 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2021 production as a RS FR at MSU.

12. Kedon Slovis (5th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 57.5%, 1,716 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2019 production as a true frosh at USC.

13. Nick Evers (2nd yr FR - has not played a down for Wisconsin

14. Jacolby Criswell (4th yr JR) - has thrown 2 passes for 3-6 Arkansas

15. Spencer Sanders (5th yr SR) - appeared in 5 games, started zero for Ole Miss

16. Jeff Sims (4th yr JR) - we have seen what he's done this season

17. Cade McNamera (4th yr SR) - 51.1%, 505 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT. Played only 5 games.

18. Phil Jurkovec (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 50.9%, 818 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Has not played since 9/30.

19. Emory Jones (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 60.8%, 1,818 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 446 rush yds, 3 TD. Nowhere close to his 2021 production at Florida.

20. Chance Nolan (4th yr JR) - left TCU program before the season even started

21. Walker Howard (2nd yr FR) - has played 1 game at Ole Miss

22. Ben Bryant (6th yr SR) - 4-5 record - 59%, 926 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production the last 2 years at Cincy.

23. Casey Thompson

24. Graham Mertz (5th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 73.9%, 2,409 yards, 17 TD, 2 INT. Enjoying by far his best season statistically but not translating into wins in the SEC East.

25. Jake Garcia (3rd yr SO) - Has not played a snap at Mizzou

26. Sawyer Robertson (2nd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 49.5%, 647 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT. Began the year as Baylor's starter, has been benched.

27. Braedyn Locke (2nd yr FR) - 5-4 record - 50%, 777 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT. Took over for Mordecai, just lost to Indiana.

28. Jack Plummer (5th yr JR) - 8-1 record - 65.3%, 2159 yards, 14 TD, 8 INT. Similar stats to what he'd put up at Cal, has Louisville in the ACC title discussion.

29. Donovan Smith (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 65.9%, 2,303 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Having his second best season, near his production 2 years ago as a true frost at TTech.

30. Luke Altmyer (3rd yr SO) - 4-5 record - 64.8%, 1,889 yards, 13 TD, 10 INT. Leading B1G in INT, we destroyed him.

pretty mixed bag. a few standouts in a sea of underachievers.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

This is great. One thing I’ve noticed is that their completion percentage and TD to INT ratios are all better than HH’s. And I think we could agree that we can think of 3-4 INTs that hit DBs right in the hands that they should have picked off. It could be worse.

 

[ridge22]

I'm still hoping they can get Rico to come out of the portal and be a Husker!

Ha! He IS our starting QB now!

 

[HuskerDrew]

All of them better than HH, Sims, Purdy

 

[sloth316]

I think he was a '22 transfer, but Cameron Ward at Washington State has been pretty impressive, at least in the few games I've watched him play. Portal QBs are so tricky though...you can't come in and establish the chemistry and leadership you get by being in the program from the get-go

 

[sloth316]

I think he was a '22 transfer, but Cameron Ward at Washington State has been pretty impressive, at least in the few games I've watched him play. Portal QBs are so tricky though...you can't come in and establish the chemistry and leadership you get by being in the program from the get-go

Ha! I just looked up Wazzou's record...didn't realize they were 4-5....the game I watched him in that I was impressed with was their win over Wisconsin, but that looks less and less impressive as the week's go by...please take away my QB evaluation commentary privileges immediately

 

[king_kong_]

This is great. One thing I’ve noticed is that their completion percentage and TD to INT ratios are all better than HH’s. And I think we could agree that we can think of 3-4 INTs that hit DBs right in the hands that they should have picked off. It could be worse.

there are 4 of the top 9 with worse TD:INT ratios than HH (Jackson, Card, Mordecai, Armstrong)

and none of these top 10 present anything close to the running threat HH does (477 yards, 5 TD)

not saying HH is the best quarterback on earth, but facts are facts.

 

[leodisflowers]

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/top/football/2023/?position=qb

 

[HuskerO]

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

DJ looks like a stud out there. He almost looks bored in that the game is too easy for him (how it looks to me, not what he's actually thinking).

We'd have only 1 loss if he were here, but other than DJ, that's about it.

 

[king_kong_]

DJ looks like a stud out there. He almost looks bored in that the game is too easy for him (how it looks to me, not what he's actually thinking).

We'd have only 1 loss if he were here, but other than DJ, that's about it.

of the top 20 transfers, I agree.

I think we'd be better with 3 of them - Hartman, DJ U and Shedeur

the others look an awful lot like what we've already got now

 

[mikecanale]

here's a comprehensive look at the top 30 transfer QBs from 2023 in their first year with their new school:

1. Sam Hartman (5th yr SR) - 7-3 record - 62.8%, 2,272 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. After throwing for 38 and 39 TDs last two years at Wake, he's on pace to significantly underperform those numbers.

2. Devin Leary (5th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 57.4%, 1,905 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Kentucky is significantly worse this year than last, and Leary is nowhere close to his 2021 production at NC St

3. Brennan Armstrong (6th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 58.8%, 971 yards, 5 TD, 6 INT. Armstrong is nowhere close to his 2021 production at UVA.

4. Tanner Mordecai (6th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 63.7%, 1,127 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production at SMU.

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

6. Sam Jackson V (3rd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 53.1%, 556 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT. Hasn't played since Sept 30th, got benched after frequent bouts of being hurt (not injured).

7. Brady Allen (2nd yr FR) - hasn't played, followed Brohm from Purdue to L'ville.

8. Hudson Card (4th yr JR) - 2-7 record - 57.8%, 1,861 yards, 9 TD, 8 INT. Worst season of his career by far.

9. Tayven Jackson (2nd yr FR) - 3-6 record (2-3 as starter) - 60.9%, 914 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT. Hasn't played since 10/14.

10. Shedeur Sanders (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 70.1%, 2,882 yards, 24 TD, 3 INT. Easily the best stats of the transfers, but little chance CU makes a bowl game and obviously a packaged deal with his father.

11. Payton Thorne (4th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 63.9%, 1,269 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2021 production as a RS FR at MSU.

12. Kedon Slovis (5th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 57.5%, 1,716 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2019 production as a true frosh at USC.

13. Nick Evers (2nd yr FR - has not played a down for Wisconsin

14. Jacolby Criswell (4th yr JR) - has thrown 2 passes for 3-6 Arkansas

15. Spencer Sanders (5th yr SR) - appeared in 5 games, started zero for Ole Miss

16. Jeff Sims (4th yr JR) - we have seen what he's done this season

17. Cade McNamera (4th yr SR) - 51.1%, 505 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT. Played only 5 games.

18. Phil Jurkovec (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 50.9%, 818 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Has not played since 9/30.

19. Emory Jones (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 60.8%, 1,818 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 446 rush yds, 3 TD. Nowhere close to his 2021 production at Florida.

20. Chance Nolan (4th yr JR) - left TCU program before the season even started



I will continue to add to this and do all top 30. stay tuned.

Were any of these available when Rhule took over?

 

[PvilleHuskerTim]

This is great. One thing I’ve noticed is that their completion percentage and TD to INT ratios are all better than HH’s. And I think we could agree that we can think of 3-4 INTs that hit DBs right in the hands that they should have picked off. It could be worse.

Jury is obviously still out on HH, but I can think of more than 3-4 times our own receivers dropped a pass from HH that was right in their hands. Seems like that happens almost every game. So, to play devil's advocate, the completion percentage most certainly would be higher without all the drops. And also, making those catches changes the down/distance, and therefore, the play calls. If those catches are made, seems likely some of the interceptions thrown (and "almost" interceptions) don't occur. Have to look at all factors.

 

[king_kong_]

Were any of these available when Rhule took over?

I believe all of them were available when Rhule took over prior to last year's bowl season

 

[king_kong_]

to conclude:

DJ U, Shedeur Sanders, Graham Mertz and Jack Plummer are the only QBs of the top 30 transfers enjoying more success in their first year at their new school than they had previously

the other 26 are either not playing or are playing significantly worse than they had prior to transferring

that's a 13% hit rate. take out Sanders due to his circumstances as not a traditional transfer and that number drops to 10%.

good luck to our coaching staff identifying one this offseason.

so far, NU is 0 for 4 bringing in transfer QBs, with just 1 actually winning a single game.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

there are 4 of the top 9 with worse TD:INT ratios than HH (Jackson, Card, Mordecai, Armstrong)

and none of these top 10 present anything close to the running threat HH does (477 yards, 5 TD)

not saying HH is the best quarterback on earth, but facts are facts.

Well here are my facts I’m clinging to

Haarberg is

a turnover machine
Missing open WRs
Not running ANYTHING LIKE he was earlier
Not the QB that’s going to get us to where we need to be.

Don’t cling to your narrative you were presenting before because you need it for validation. It’s okay to be wrong. I was wrong about him being better than Simms too. Not sure he is. Not saying he isn’t but not sure he is.

I would like to see Purdy get a shot. He can’t be much worse.

Are we clinging to Haarberg after Saturday because he had one long TD run? The rest were terrible and something Purdy could probably have done. And our passing would probably be better. Can’t be worse.

If anything it’s worth a look

 

[leodisflowers]

to conclude:

DJ U, Shedeur Sanders, Graham Mertz and Jack Plummer are the only QBs of the top 30 transfers enjoying more success in their first year at their new school than they had previously

the other 26 are either not playing or are playing significantly worse than they had prior to transferring

that's a 13% hit rate. take out Sanders due to his circumstances as not a traditional transfer and that number drops to 10%.

good luck to our coaching staff identifying one this offseason.

so far, NU is 0 for 4 bringing in transfer QBs, with just 1 actually winning a single game.

Yep, that is the thing with the portal. Sometimes you will hit it big, but its literally a crapshoot, kind of like the NFL. Other positions seem to be much easier to fill voids in the portal.

 

[MissoulaHusker]

to conclude:

DJ U, Shedeur Sanders, Graham Mertz and Jack Plummer are the only QBs of the top 30 transfers enjoying more success in their first year at their new school than they had previously

the other 26 are either not playing or are playing significantly worse than they had prior to transferring

that's a 13% hit rate. take out Sanders due to his circumstances as not a traditional transfer and that number drops to 10%.

good luck to our coaching staff identifying one this offseason.

so far, NU is 0 for 4 bringing in transfer QBs, with just 1 actually winning a single game.

Thanks for the research. Obviously we need to try for more transfer QBs this offseason but this seems to match up with what you’d expect - guys who aren’t successful (couldn’t get the starting job or meaningful snaps, couldn’t win, etc.) are largely the ones transferring (and then still not succeeding). I’m sure the hit rate is much higher for FBS guys transferring down a level to the FCS. It’s just much harder to be a successful QB at the P5 level, and then so few star QBs at this level are even mediocre in the NFL.

 

[king_kong_]

Well here are my facts I’m clinging to

Haarberg is

a turnover machine
Missing open WRs
Not running ANYTHING LIKE he was earlier
Not the QB that’s going to get us to where we need to be.

Don’t cling to your narrative you were presenting before because you need it for validation. It’s okay to be wrong. I was wrong about him being better than Simms too. Not sure he is. Not saying he isn’t but not sure he is.

I would like to see Purdy get a shot. He can’t be much worse.

Are we clinging to Haarberg after Saturday because he had one long TD run? The rest were terrible and something Purdy could probably have done. And our passing would probably be better. Can’t be worse.

If anything it’s worth a look

those are feelings, not facts.

purdy has not posted a single passing stat at NU better than HH and each have played 6 games.

and purdy had the benefit of throwing to Trey Palmer.

 

[drg1104]

Well here are my facts I’m clinging to

Haarberg is

a turnover machine
Missing open WRs
Not running ANYTHING LIKE he was earlier
Not the QB that’s going to get us to where we need to be.

Don’t cling to your narrative you were presenting before because you need it for validation. It’s okay to be wrong. I was wrong about him being better than Simms too. Not sure he is. Not saying he isn’t but not sure he is.

I would like to see Purdy get a shot. He can’t be much worse.

Are we clinging to Haarberg after Saturday because he had one long TD run? The rest were terrible and something Purdy could probably have done. And our passing would probably be better. Can’t be worse.

If anything it’s worth a look

Kong after HH under performing AGAIN last weekend:

 

[Hugo_Stiglitz7]

here's a comprehensive look at the top 30 transfer QBs from 2023 in their first year with their new school:

1. Sam Hartman (5th yr SR) - 7-3 record - 62.8%, 2,272 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. After throwing for 38 and 39 TDs last two years at Wake, he's on pace to significantly underperform those numbers.

2. Devin Leary (5th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 57.4%, 1,905 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Kentucky is significantly worse this year than last, and Leary is nowhere close to his 2021 production at NC St

3. Brennan Armstrong (6th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 58.8%, 971 yards, 5 TD, 6 INT. Armstrong is nowhere close to his 2021 production at UVA.

4. Tanner Mordecai (6th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 63.7%, 1,127 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production at SMU.

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

6. Sam Jackson V (3rd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 53.1%, 556 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT. Hasn't played since Sept 30th, got benched after frequent bouts of being hurt (not injured).

7. Brady Allen (2nd yr FR) - hasn't played, followed Brohm from Purdue to L'ville.

8. Hudson Card (4th yr JR) - 2-7 record - 57.8%, 1,861 yards, 9 TD, 8 INT. Worst season of his career by far.

9. Tayven Jackson (2nd yr FR) - 3-6 record (2-3 as starter) - 60.9%, 914 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT. Hasn't played since 10/14.

10. Shedeur Sanders (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 70.1%, 2,882 yards, 24 TD, 3 INT. Easily the best stats of the transfers, but little chance CU makes a bowl game and obviously a packaged deal with his father.

11. Payton Thorne (4th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 63.9%, 1,269 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2021 production as a RS FR at MSU.

12. Kedon Slovis (5th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 57.5%, 1,716 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2019 production as a true frosh at USC.

13. Nick Evers (2nd yr FR - has not played a down for Wisconsin

14. Jacolby Criswell (4th yr JR) - has thrown 2 passes for 3-6 Arkansas

15. Spencer Sanders (5th yr SR) - appeared in 5 games, started zero for Ole Miss

16. Jeff Sims (4th yr JR) - we have seen what he's done this season

17. Cade McNamera (4th yr SR) - 51.1%, 505 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT. Played only 5 games.

18. Phil Jurkovec (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 50.9%, 818 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Has not played since 9/30.

19. Emory Jones (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 60.8%, 1,818 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 446 rush yds, 3 TD. Nowhere close to his 2021 production at Florida.

20. Chance Nolan (4th yr JR) - left TCU program before the season even started

21. Walker Howard (2nd yr FR) - has played 1 game at Ole Miss

22. Ben Bryant (6th yr SR) - 4-5 record - 59%, 926 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production the last 2 years at Cincy.

23. Casey Thompson

24. Graham Mertz (5th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 73.9%, 2,409 yards, 17 TD, 2 INT. Enjoying by far his best season statistically but not translating into wins in the SEC East.

25. Jake Garcia (3rd yr SO) - Has not played a snap at Mizzou

26. Sawyer Robertson (2nd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 49.5%, 647 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT. Began the year as Baylor's starter, has been benched.

27. Braedyn Locke (2nd yr FR) - 5-4 record - 50%, 777 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT. Took over for Mordecai, just lost to Indiana.

28. Jack Plummer (5th yr JR) - 8-1 record - 65.3%, 2159 yards, 14 TD, 8 INT. Similar stats to what he'd put up at Cal, has Louisville in the ACC title discussion.

29. Donovan Smith (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 65.9%, 2,303 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Having his second best season, near his production 2 years ago as a true frost at TTech.

30. Luke Altmyer (3rd yr SO) - 4-5 record - 64.8%, 1,889 yards, 13 TD, 10 INT. Leading B1G in INT, we destroyed him.

pretty mixed bag. a few standouts in a sea of underachievers.

It's almost like Leary has been on the take this year. He was supposed to have a huge year with Liam Coen (Basically fixed Will Levis in 1 yrs at Kentucky). Went from a potential high draft pick to a late 2nd day pick.

Hartman. I get some of the ND allure, but he is with a 2nd year OC in (1st yr was at WV while also coaching WR) Parker who specializes in TR/WR and Gino Guidugli (No Power 5 QB corching experience).

Marcus Freeman is also a limp-dich Head Corch.
🌽

 

[leodisflowers]

I really think that we need to re-evaluate our recruiting and maybe switch gears. Need to go find kids who are winners first but then also decide what we are and recruit to that. Also, those recruits need to be QB's and not athletes who we want to be a QB.

Also, I think you take a big QB class. Take Kaelin, Rezac and possibly some others and really try to get the QB right. Doesn't matter the level, QB is vital to be a championship team and right now we are nowhere close.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

I think it was Parcells back in the day that said something like..."You don't just dial 1-800 I need a QB"

I admit the transfer QB breakdown on winning percentage surprises me, and bums me out. Didn't know the success ratio was so terrible. We are in dire need of an upgrade at that position and i'm not sure we're going to get it.

 

[leodisflowers]

I think it was Parcells back in the day that said something like..."You don't just dial 1-800 I need a QB"

I admit the transfer QB breakdown on winning percentage surprises me, and bums me out. Didn't know the success ratio was so terrible. We are in dire need of an upgrade at that position and i'm not sure we're going to get it.

That's a great quote and is so true.

 

[king_kong_]

Kong after HH under performing AGAIN last weekend:

under performing what, exactly?

sounds like a you problem.

I don't expect a kid who hasn't played meaningful football since he was at Kearney Catholic, has been buried on the depth chart and "coached" by 3 different QB coaches/OCs in 3 years to look like Joe Montana week in week out like the lion's share of posters (idiots) here.

he's got a long way to go and gets very little or no help from anyone on offense.

 

[king_kong_]

Yep, that is the thing with the portal. Sometimes you will hit it big, but its literally a crapshoot, kind of like the NFL. Other positions seem to be much easier to fill voids in the portal.

it is MUCH easier to find impact players at other positions

in addition to QB, we need to be super aggressive in adding at least 2 RBs and at least one big bodied/sure handed WR

the biggest area of improvement on offense - by far - is on the offensive line. It's my hope Rhule and whoever the OL coach will be next year are heavily invested in remaking that group entirely.

 

[dinglefritz]

He has a QBR in the 30s. Maybe doing better than HH but in no way is he doing well.

He had one great game with 5 TDs. 4 passing, 1 running and a nice passing 2 pt conversion. That was in relief of the guy he splits time with. He rallied them from a 3 possession deficit and completed roughly 70. I watched a little of his next game and he didn’t look good.

 

[king_kong_]

He had one great game with 5 TDs. 4 passing, 1 running and a nice passing 2 pt conversion. That was in relief of the guy he splits time with. He rallied them from a 3 possession deficit and completed roughly 70. I watched a little of his next game and he didn’t look good.

game you're referring to was vs Sam Houston St (1-8) and he totaled 4 TDs, not 5

he's been permanently benched following their game vs Liberty 3 weeks ago

 

[drg1104]

under performing what, exactly?

sounds like a you problem.

I don't expect a kid who hasn't played meaningful football since he was at Kearney Catholic, has been buried on the depth chart and "coached" by 3 different QB coaches/OCs in 3 years to look like Joe Montana week in week out like the lion's share of posters (idiots) here.

he's got a long way to go and gets very little or no help from anyone on offense.

Geez man.. Not sure anyone is delusional to believe HH can or will be anything better than a glorified tight end playing QB here at Nebraska but you.

It remains precious the way you post numerous things flawed around HH, but fail to admit his flaws or concede another QB in the future may be better suited to play in order to help this offense going forward.

 

[king_kong_]

Geez man.. Not sure anyone is delusional to believe HH can or will be anything better than a glorified tight end playing QB here at Nebraska but you.

It remains precious the way you post numerous things flawed around HH, but fail to admit his flaws or concede another QB in the future may be better suited to play in order to help this offense going forward.

do you think there's a better than 10% chance HH can improve enough with coaching continuity (first time in his career he'll have the same QB coach/OC) and a full offseason of camps + starter's reps to get us to 8+ wins next year?

10% is the odds we find somebody better in the portal, and that's assuming we can pick any player we want.

I believe the answer is yes.

personally, I would call those who are betting the future on a 10% (at best) game of chance the delusional ones.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Geez man.. Not sure anyone is delusional to believe HH can or will be anything better than a glorified tight end playing QB here at Nebraska but you.

It remains precious the way you post numerous things flawed around HH, but fail to admit his flaws or concede another QB in the future may be better suited to play in order to help this offense going forward.

The guy you're pointing at is the only poster I remember sayin HH should start and might be our best QB and he took one beating after another for it...and he turned out to be right...and still is..HH is still our best QB who gives us the best chance to win....and everyone admits he's flawed and doesn't have a super high ceiling...inc the poster you're pointing at...

 

[leodisflowers]

it is MUCH easier to find impact players at other positions

in addition to QB, we need to be super aggressive in adding at least 2 RBs and at least one big bodied/sure handed WR

the biggest area of improvement on offense - by far - is on the offensive line. It's my hope Rhule and whoever the OL coach will be next year are heavily invested in remaking that group entirely.

100%. I agree the most on the OL. When you look at above average teams, their OL's just look different. Scott and Benhart might be the only ones that look the part. The rest kind of look like Chubby FCS lineman and that probably fits because that is how they play. It's shocking to me just what other OL's look like compared to our guys.

 

[drg1104]

The guy you're pointing at is the only poster I remember sayin HH should start and might be our best QB and he took one beating after another for it...and he turned out to be right...and still is..HH is still our best QB who gives us the best chance to win....and everyone admits he's flawed and doesn't have a super high ceiling...inc the poster you're pointing at...

Indeed Kong correctly predicted HH should start over Sims and Purdy.

Kong took his victory lap and everyone tipped their hat to him, UNTIL the continuous reminders and continuous threads and attacks on any and every poster on here the past few months who would have any criticism on anything related to HH.

I respectfully disagree with your assertation for where Kong's numerous post have left him.

 

[king_kong_]

any and every poster on here the past few months who would have any criticism on anything related to HH.

while I have little doubt this is how you feel about me, you will struggle find any proof to back this up.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Indeed Kong correctly predicted HH should start over Sims and Purdy.

Kong took his victory lap and everyone tipped their hat to him, UNTIL the continuous reminders and continuous threads and attacks on any and every poster on here the past few months who would have any criticism on anything related to HH.

I respectfully disagree with your assertation for where Kong's numerous post have left him.

I'm sick of people bashing HH. He's the best we have at the moment and an easy kid to like and root far.... He isn't a hired gun...he's never quit when all of his peers did...he may be playing injured...I'm just not understanding people piling on him right now.

 

[MissoulaHusker]

The guy you're pointing at is the only poster I remember sayin HH should start and might be our best QB and he took one beating after another for it...and he turned out to be right...and still is..HH is still our best QB who gives us the best chance to win....and everyone admits he's flawed and doesn't have a super high ceiling...inc the poster you're pointing at...

Exactly. A lot of people still want to be right about their old opinions and have tried to move the goalposts on what we’d get out of Haarberg. But thankfully we have him this year, otherwise things would be really bleak and we wouldn’t have won five out of the last seven. Still, for next year, ideally either Haarberg improves drastically (maybe not possible in certain respects, but hope I’m wrong) or he is replaced by someone who will win more games for us. I’d love for him to improve his throwing mechanics and accuracy but it seems more realistic he should at a minimum improve his reads and decision-making (and obviously stop fumbling).