Either the dude is just full of shit, or the wrestling team was shit at his HS. Nearly all of the good wrestlers when I was in HS were on the FB team.
Polar Bear to wrestle.
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And, D3 wrestlers are still really good...D3 FB players are basically guys that did not actually play football on this HS team.
Well, to be fair, HS basketball players’ definition of work-ethic is the same as soccer, bowling, and baseball kids, but much different than real athletes.
You SOB!
I coach bowling! Do we order fries and tater tots during practice?!?!
Sure!
But...you know what, you are right.
No, just that football attracts higher caliber athletes. It’s more popular and more athletically competitive. So if you’re athletic enough to play high level football odds are you will naturally have a higher degree of athleticism. Obviously it’s not universal and probably doesn’t apply at the highest levels of competition. But in my personal experience(s) all/most of the best players on both my HS and college teams would’ve been dominate wrestlers.
Possibly, can’t really remember how they stacked up statewide, but they were coached by a former Olympian.
I now am backing off my statement about Polar Bear making an immediate impact. Thought he just joined the team and would need some time to get back into wrestling mode. Looks like he has been practicing for a while. I am a lot more excited than before.
In high school, 80% of the wrestlers are out for football. 180 and up are linebackers and defensive linemen
when I used to wresle football players they were ussually strong, but lacked all around strength. did'nt have balance or moves and slow
So the debate seems to have turned into: when a wrestler takes on a non-wrestler, the non-wrestler doesn’t do very well against the wrestler who has been practicing their sport for years. The same could be said in about every situation and every sport.
For what it’s worth, when wrestlers popped into our BB practices and talked smack, they quickly found out they were so uncoordinated at BB they couldn’t make a simple layup, bricked their free throws, and air balled from 3 point line.
FB players make great wrestlers and great BB players.
For what it’s worth, when wrestlers popped into our BB practices and talked smack, they quickly found out they were so uncoordinated at BB they couldn’t make a simple layup, bricked their free throws, and air balled from 3 point line.
FB players make great wrestlers and great BB players.
Just an awful idea
You are going from a meatgrinder of a season where basically your body is getting worn down the entire season and by the end most are playing through all kinds of ailments and then jumping into another high level sport that wears on the body while at the same time cutting 40-50 pounds
No time for optimal recovery between seasons
There is a reason why NFL players have stipulations in their contracts that prevents them from doing stupid shit like this
We need to decide if our football program is closer to an nfl type program or North Dakota high school football
This wrestling decision would suggest we are a lot closer to a high school operation than a program that takes football seriously.
You are going from a meatgrinder of a season where basically your body is getting worn down the entire season and by the end most are playing through all kinds of ailments and then jumping into another high level sport that wears on the body while at the same time cutting 40-50 pounds
No time for optimal recovery between seasons
There is a reason why NFL players have stipulations in their contracts that prevents them from doing stupid shit like this
We need to decide if our football program is closer to an nfl type program or North Dakota high school football
This wrestling decision would suggest we are a lot closer to a high school operation than a program that takes football seriously.
Nash would have to drop a ton of weight to make the 285. Its a fantastic conditioning sport, and hopefully he enjoys success and escapes any serious injury. With a nickname like Polar Bear, he has the size and mass to consider the WWE and maybe make a decent living after athletics are over for him.
In high school national competition,there were 2 guys that handled him very easily by pinning Nash in less than a minute. There are levels.
Nebraska has a top 15 wrestling program. NU has the Oklahoma 4A Wrestler of the Year on the roster at that weight class, and I suspect Nash is working with him. Hardly a North Dakota HS operation. Frost and company took the kid and made him less athletic. Rhule is trying something different.
The high school comment was related to the multi sport dimension of high school athletics. Wrestling is great in high school - he was by far the biggest guy on the field in high school football and didn’t take the down to down beating compared to playing power 5 sports.
Near the end of the season he had to sit out multiple series because of wear and tear
No NFL team would allow anything close to this.
I never wrestled, being tall and skinny precluded that, but I do not believe losing weight like that, just to re-gain it quickly is a good thing.
Maybe Rhule wants him playing at 305 instead of 335?
He seemed good at the higher weight last fall.
I do not think this is best, but I do not know much!
Maybe Rhule wants him playing at 305 instead of 335?
He seemed good at the higher weight last fall.
I do not think this is best, but I do not know much!
Nash would be a great guy for your hwt to work out with if nothing else. Nash didn’t have to come back so you let him wrestle if he wants to give it a go.
As a football player the hardest hits I ever took in games OR practice were all from wrestlers. Yeah I could pin a buddy who wrestled but he wasn’t very good. Different sports. Different muscle groups. Different aerobic demands.
Let’s put it this way there is wrestling shape and there is football shape.
I had forgotten him being back on his choice.
Disregard previous comment. I agree, let him do what he wants, and best of luck to him this year, and forward.
High end wrestlers don't play. This fits Rhule's theme. He wants high caliber athletes. And he seems to be willing to allow guys to play 2 sports if that gets/keeps them at NU. Are any of the freshman speedsters running track?
Track and field is a completely different situation. You are in complete control of your movements. No one is actively trying to force you in unnatural positions as you resist with all the might and force that your tendons, ligaments and muscles can muster
I don’t follow or care too much about college wrestling but he’s going to be an immediate impact.
He was an absolute monster as a wrestler in high school, much better wrestling than football prospect at that stage.
Also not worried about the weight, about 10 lbs of it is water weight in the quick cut anyway, putting his mass around 295. Getting him back to 300-310 by fall shouldn’t be an issue.
Plus, he was an objectively better player when he was leaner and quicker than bulked.
This is a good angle. If he retains his strength, while picking up quickness, to go along with his experience, he’s going to be hard for any interior lineman to handle.
Yeah, I don't like it. Nash was a huge part of having one of the best rush defenses in the nation, and a lot of that could be attributed to his size and strength. We don’t have much of anything at backup NT either.
LOVE THAT YOUNG MAN!!!! Congrats Sir. What a great representative of the University of Nebraska!!
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