Perspective
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How dose all that change with a new staff? And how about adding in the 2016 and 2017 classes and a complete 2018 class if no change is made. One year is perfect opportunity too see the team and Rileys direction .And ability as a leader.
Great question!
Many act like they are scared half to death that we will not get him and that he is our savior. It has the feeling it's now or never for Frost.
I do however think that many Husker fans still would want Riley fired just because of a lack of wins and the direction this season seems to be heading. Losing to NIU wasn't good.
If there wasn't a Scott Frost out there, they would want a different hot coach.
Some coaches have won championships only to be fired after the following year when they had a losing season. No coach is safe unfortunately in today's college football environment.
Completely agree, we could have the best recruiting assistants in the country. The weak link is Mike Riley. Top players want to play for a coach who has fire and passion. Riley isn't that guy.
So you have some inside info on what recruits think of Riley? I haven't seen anything on that. Do you know these kids personally??
I'm certainly high on Frost, but there's plenty of other options besides him. I've seen enough from Riley to see that he's not improving. It's time for a new guy to get a shot.
Bo took over a how many wins football team?
Riley took over a how many wins football team?
Bo was given time because it actually looked like he was progressing to something, for a while anyway. Riley took a 9 win team and by year 3 will be lucky to win 6.
Does Riley magically change his personality when talking to recruits? I know what many people think of Riley's personality type and recruits aren't going to think any differently. Sure, recruits may think he's a nice guy but top recruits want to play for a winner.
So, in other words, you don't actually know what recruits think. Thought so.
Geez, I have been leaning towards letting Riley go at the end of the season. But quite frankly, the "fire Riley now!" crowd is pushing me the other way. What a group of knee jerk doomsday peddlers.
Seriously, even Tom's Wife makes more sense than most of you people
Seriously, even Tom's Wife makes more sense than most of you people
Who cares what dantoni did or didn’t do? How does that help Nebraska start beating the directional cupcakes on our sched and not being 4 score dogs in our own house?
Pelini got 7 years because he inherited the kind of shit that Riley is in the middle of creating.
A losing culture with zero identity.
The next coach here is going to be in the same exact situation Pelini was.
I’m not a Pelini fan, but the people up here claiming that Riley had to rebuild this 9 win program he inherited and what is needed is YET MORE assistant turnover here after year 3 (canning the remainder of the assistants he got to hand pick coming here) are the delusional ones.
That’s a totally unintelligible position to argue anyway. Riley is supposed to get 4-5 years even though the team is regressing in order to be “fair” and “give him a chance” yet the assistants have to go prior to that?
What if Banker and Hughes and cav and Langs all need 4-5 years to get things going?
Pelini got 7 years because he inherited the kind of shit that Riley is in the middle of creating.
A losing culture with zero identity.
The next coach here is going to be in the same exact situation Pelini was.
I’m not a Pelini fan, but the people up here claiming that Riley had to rebuild this 9 win program he inherited and what is needed is YET MORE assistant turnover here after year 3 (canning the remainder of the assistants he got to hand pick coming here) are the delusional ones.
That’s a totally unintelligible position to argue anyway. Riley is supposed to get 4-5 years even though the team is regressing in order to be “fair” and “give him a chance” yet the assistants have to go prior to that?
What if Banker and Hughes and cav and Langs all need 4-5 years to get things going?
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Pelini inherited a bunch of future NFL players including a couple of first rounders from Callahan. You wanna talk about sh%%? How about inheriting a bunch of players that agree with Pelini's "F the Husker fans" not to mention nothing for upper tier talent? Now that's something tough to overcome. Pelini got 7 years because the AD who hired him was too stubborn at the time to admit his mistake. He's since admitted it was a mistake.
That terrible bunch of toxic players somehow won 9 games last year though.
I guess they liked Riley last year and hate him again this year?
Those damn drama queens!
We just got woodshedded by a team that we have beat every year in forever on the recruiting trail.
Exactly how much more talent does Riley need than the team he is facing in order to compete with them?
Because, by objective measurement, he had a significant talent edge over Wisconsin last week. For every recruiting class on the field. Freshman class through senior class.
If we are going to need to string together 2 or 3 top 5 classes to be in the game vs Wisconsin we are gonna be waiting a while. A long while.
I always hope, it's my nature but throwing a pass in the flat with 6 seconds on the clock sealed it for me. That was just assisine. And don't give my the players didn't run the called play. Junior high kids have more clock awareness. Riley ain't the guy
My spider sense is telling me Riley and Langs will never get the true power football that this state needs.
Physical, smash-mouth football simply isn't in MR's DNA. Fluff-ball is all he knows.
Perspective: Nebraska is never going to be a contender for conference and national championships as long as they keep telling one-another to keep losing seasons in perspective.
Hey, if Nebraska never wins another game ever again, at least the planet has not been annihilated in a nuclear holocaust!!!
Hey, if Nebraska never wins another game ever again, at least the planet has not been annihilated in a nuclear holocaust!!!
Would you hire this:
Got into Stanford (no easy feat) - Played offense and defense. Transferred to Nebraska - two year starter with 24-2 record (off top of my head) and a national championship. Drafted as a DB and had a 6 year NFL career- defense. Became OC at top level football program within 5 years of becoming a football coach. In 2014 was a finalist for the Broyles award (top assistant coach in college football). Became a head coach of team that went 0-12 the year before and has them currently undefeated.
Looks like a great candidate to me.
This is just a flat out lie. Our best recruit in a long time, Bookie, is committed to Riley and loves his wife Dee. You can have an opinion on it, or what you'd like but your statement is incorrect
I wouldn't put it quite as you did, but I think you are essentially correct. This is my biggest issue with Riley. Patty-cake football
"Currently undefeated" hell Riley had Nebraska undeafeted the first 7 games of his second season.
Have you looked at next years schedule? It would be extremely stupid to fire him IMHO, because you aren't winning many games next year anyway with a new coaching philosophy trying to be implemented. This is why I think fans need to simmer down a bit! Hell you get Nick Saban in here next year they are losing a minimum of 5 games.
Think before you type people!
This is the problem, people, (many including myself) feel their is a window for Frost that we don't want to miss out on.
No the problem is Frost isn't the only coach that can win ball games. If Frost was meant to be at Nebraska he will be at Nebraska. If he goes to an Ole Miss type school after this year, and we offer the following year and he doesn't except... Guess what guys he didn't want to be here in the first place.
Ok-- his record is 10-7 at ucf, previous they were 3-14 in same time-- that work for ya?
You have to think long-term beyond just next season. Keeping Riley means delaying the rebuilding project another year. Nobody will expect the new coach to dominate next year with that schedule and coming off of another bad season. But he can start putting in his system and establishing his culture so that 2019 could be a pretty good year with a more favorable schedule.
If a coach like Frost is interested, you have to ask yourself who you think is going to be a better coach in 5 years: him or Mike Riley? Ohio St did the same thing with Fickell and Urban Meyer, the Cubs did it with Renteria and Maddon, etc.
I love when people blame Riley's first losing season on Bo because he used bad language and said mean things about the fans and the AD. This would be a big deal if he were coaching your daughter's kindergarten basketball team. But he wasn't.
No because i think using partial seasons and "undefeated" first 4 games is rediculous.
Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, or Dabo Swinney gets 10 of those guys every year. If Riley was bringing in 5 of those guys every year I'd agree with you, but he's not.
We'll have to agree to disagree. Every guy that we are bringing to campus raves about Riley and the family atmosphere. Assistants help, but Riley is closing a lot of these guys more than 5+. I get your point about playing for a fiery coach, but these kids love Riley when they come in. The world has changed, and a lot of these kids need coddled. Also, Nick and Urban are probably at the two best jobs in CFB. Those places are going to get croots no matter what. NU is probably the 4th best job in the Big 10, and that is me being a homer. I think recruiting is the least of our worries with Riley. We can judge his performance on the field, but in the PR department, and off the field the guy and his team are light years ahead of where we have been.
This isn't directed at you, just adding on to the post, but also the people that are going crazy about walk-ons... Since Riley has been here our walkon quality rate has gone way up. We've landed some pretty big fish out of Nebraska that could have gone to the SD States of the world, but are starting to stay home again. For as much as people want to clamor about walkons, Kenny W and this staff are giving it attention and it is in a good place.
If Riley is gone I agree with you. If Riley is the headcoach I am willing to bet he is here. Wanna go old school and have a sig bet? If Riley stays Bookie stays?
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