OT: Texas high school wrestler
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What a shame adults let this happen, wrestling or no. Child abuse.
No win for anyone. If she wrestles other girls, she will win as she has been. All juiced up and thats not right. If an olympic female athlete had that many testosterone shots, she would be disqualified.
If she wrestles boys, also a no win. Some boys wouldnt wrestle her because they dont feel right about contact of that nature with a female. They may not go all out. Win and you beat a girl, lose and you wont live it down. Especially based on the nature of that girl.
If she wrestles boys, also a no win. Some boys wouldnt wrestle her because they dont feel right about contact of that nature with a female. They may not go all out. Win and you beat a girl, lose and you wont live it down. Especially based on the nature of that girl.
I don't really care what bathroom anyone uses, but the ramifications for sports could be troubling. What's going to stop women's coaches from recruiting male athletes? It could take opportunities away from deserving young women.
Like it or not, the best male athletes are significantly superior to the best female athletes in terms of size, strength, and overall athletic ability. Nobody should be bullied, but there are some areas of society, such as sports, in which there need to be clear definitions of gender.
Like it or not, the best male athletes are significantly superior to the best female athletes in terms of size, strength, and overall athletic ability. Nobody should be bullied, but there are some areas of society, such as sports, in which there need to be clear definitions of gender.
it's easy. confused men women compete/poop/shower as what they were given at birth.
refuse, to confuse!
refuse, to confuse!
this isnt a story about allowing biologic males competing in womens athletics or vice versa. the texas hs atletic commission made the correct decision in that regard. this is about allowing PED use in athletics namely testosterone. This female athlete suffers from a disease called gender dysphoria. She thinks she is a male. she has been prescribed testosterone to send her on her transgender journey. We all know that testosterone is a PED. the texas hs athletic commission should have barred her from competition. this girl is self identifying as a male---good for her--that is her right. However, she can still self identify without the use of steroids--testosterone.
I self-identify myself as an astronaut...
...and rich, and good-looking too...and way smarter...
I should have been classified as a guy that could get whatever trim John Stamos got.
...and rich, and good-looking too...and way smarter...
I should have been classified as a guy that could get whatever trim John Stamos got.
If women's collegiate athletics pulled in coin like the men's this would be a huge issue
I guarantee if women's basketball or volleyball was as profitable as football you would have programs actively recruiting men who identify as women or women undergoing testosterone treatments because they identify as men
already seeing a little of this creeping into Olympic competition
I guarantee if women's basketball or volleyball was as profitable as football you would have programs actively recruiting men who identify as women or women undergoing testosterone treatments because they identify as men
already seeing a little of this creeping into Olympic competition
When I coached in Texas every kid was drug tested in every sport from 7th grade on. It was always for drugs like weed though not sure if they also looked for PED like drugs.
I read this and thought what a mess. Wanted to bury the kid, but she wanted to wrestle as a boy and they would not allow it. So it was the adults that made this a mess. The kid just wanted to compete.
Agree, if she wanted to be a boy they should have let her/he wrestle and compete as a boy.
Never knew any state had girls wrestling till now. Wow just Wow.
many states offer girls wrestling. and isnt this a title ix issue as well then. Customary that athletic federations/commissions do not allow for girls to compete with boys when the sport is offered to both genders. Furthermore, had she competed in the boys competition it still would not have changed the fact that she is taking PED's---steroids--she still would have been in violation and should be disqualified.
If what is on your birth certificate does NOT matter, then I choose to identify as a 70 year old male. I want my 401k funds without the early withdrawl penalty. I also want my social security and medicare benefits now. And my senior discount at Golden Corral. I am trans elderly.
Hmm, this is not a disease, it is a disorder technically according to what I could find. Look at the family structure she apparently grew up in or didn't.
Some asked about girls in male sports. I have been at schools where girls played boy's football, normally they can compete well in Jr High but by high school it becomes harder to keep up. I saw a girl who was a very good JH QB give it up when she got into HS. I also had kids wrestle against girls here in Kansas. At the lower weights they could compete and it was very awkward for the boys to wrestle them. Some boys didn't care, some would forfeit, some were timid, but always embarked to get beat by her.
Also in Kansas, the ability to test for any drugs is up to each individual school. I know schools that did it but never at a school I was at. It is costly and time consuming and you have to do it randomly to ALL students in extra curricular, not just sports. So the kids is debate get tested as well. Then you have to decide how many "panels" you want to test - marijuana, meth, amphetamines, etc. There are very stringent processes for the protection of everyone. I know one school who started it and they saw an instant drop in the number of kids who went out for sports. The eventually dropped it, I think because of costs. At a school I was at, they tested kids before prom with a breath analyzer test. The legal aspects of this were so crazy we dropped it. You had to certify your machines, you had to test in a room with a back door in case it was positive they could leave out the back and not go by their friends., it went on and on.
Not that it matters but I agree with the assessment that she should not have been allowed to compete because of the medications. However, her argument was probably that she "needed them" and it was discriminatory to not allow her to take them and compete. I don't know that though. Most of the time they are so careful about drugs that everything is questioned.
Some asked about girls in male sports. I have been at schools where girls played boy's football, normally they can compete well in Jr High but by high school it becomes harder to keep up. I saw a girl who was a very good JH QB give it up when she got into HS. I also had kids wrestle against girls here in Kansas. At the lower weights they could compete and it was very awkward for the boys to wrestle them. Some boys didn't care, some would forfeit, some were timid, but always embarked to get beat by her.
Also in Kansas, the ability to test for any drugs is up to each individual school. I know schools that did it but never at a school I was at. It is costly and time consuming and you have to do it randomly to ALL students in extra curricular, not just sports. So the kids is debate get tested as well. Then you have to decide how many "panels" you want to test - marijuana, meth, amphetamines, etc. There are very stringent processes for the protection of everyone. I know one school who started it and they saw an instant drop in the number of kids who went out for sports. The eventually dropped it, I think because of costs. At a school I was at, they tested kids before prom with a breath analyzer test. The legal aspects of this were so crazy we dropped it. You had to certify your machines, you had to test in a room with a back door in case it was positive they could leave out the back and not go by their friends., it went on and on.
Not that it matters but I agree with the assessment that she should not have been allowed to compete because of the medications. However, her argument was probably that she "needed them" and it was discriminatory to not allow her to take them and compete. I don't know that though. Most of the time they are so careful about drugs that everything is questioned.
semantics---gender dysphoria is a mental illness. some may want to call it a disorder and some may want to use the disease terminology. if one reviews the literature regarding schizophrenia one will find it called a disorder as well. one has to wonder---the patient in this instance identifies as a male---great for her. why the testosterone? if a foreign substance is required for this self identification then i have to wonder about the legitimacy of this situation.
That works until you flip it to boys self identifying as girls.
just read rachel dolezal still claims to NOT be white.
i cant belly up to the bullshit table anymore.
i cant belly up to the bullshit table anymore.
This should've been cut and dry. Beggs was taking a PED. In the Olympics Beggs would not have been able to compete. I know it's a tough issue but this one should've been stopped right cold from the start. If you're taking test boosters you shouldn't be able to compete.
I am in the camp of who cares? I'm going to go out on a branch and think it will be hard for the coach to recruit boys who are willing to become girls to win a state title.
Instead of telling this kid that they are mentally ill or have a disorder, I am going to let him worry about his life and I will worry about mine.
Hope this kid finds happiness
Instead of telling this kid that they are mentally ill or have a disorder, I am going to let him worry about his life and I will worry about mine.
Hope this kid finds happiness
The suicide rate in the trans community is much higher than "normal" kids that age range. The adults here did him no service here at all.
That sounds great but her actions are affecting others. It is rarely as simple as you and me.
it may also be a question of who is paying for it...i read recently that taxpayers are shelling out a good chunk for these 'surgeries', which are tantamount to mutilation.
Or they should have said you are not a boy you are a girl. Cant buy smokes but can make this decision? Our society is entering the point of no return.
Again I say, child abuse. Plain and simple.
Me too.
I am worried about this kid, and all kids who for some reason or another feel this way. Its time to start caring. Adults need to be adults.
When i wanted to be an alcoholic because it made me happy as a youth, adults didnt buy me alcohol to help me be happy. They got to the root of the problem and weeded the shit out.
The difference is that the adults in your life didn't force you to live in a bar, surrounded by the bottles of alcohol and kegs of beer. By forcing her to "be a girl" that is the equivalent. In my opinion.
Texas law is correct in my opinion. 57 victims in this story because people are afraid to be the grown up in the room and call it what it is. If you bend standards and simple science for any group or person you lose integrity and hurt the sport
The 57 girls she beat while doped up on testosterone
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