Blah blah blah. Whatever - these dudes aren't even half as frightening as Switzer's wishbone terror campaign, and we survived that in the end.
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Who's the refugees and who's the jihadists??? You can't tell cause it's an ideology not a hair color. And a good jihadists will lie and tell you what you want to hear. And people are dumb enough to say ok... come on in and bring your cold huddled masses. But they will even kill their own who don't conform to what they believe. What do you think they will do over here??? Exactly what they did in France... in Boston... in Fort Hood... in New York...
Watching CNN turn on Obama has been nothing short of freaking awesome. Yes, even CNN thinks this Syrian refugee issue is a colossal mistake. That's got to sting.
leodis, I read the article and have read this stuff before, we all have. I am sick and tired of reading this crap, and watching our politicians ignore it. Here we have our biggest threat to our way of life telling us what their doing, telegraphing it. Yet so many Americans were taught political correctness over all else, and we're not supposed to say anything about it, or act on it. Enough already.
It doesn't matter how many governors say no to Syrian refugees. As long as there is a single one willing to take them in, then we are screwed. In case these morons haven't noticed, there are no restrictions on interstate travel. We need to keep them out of the country, if denied, terrorists will simply enter through our southern border.
What is pissing off the American people is a government that will not listen.
"...Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth." Abe Lincoln
What is pissing off the American people is a government that will not listen.
"...Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth." Abe Lincoln
Agreed. Sometimes the conservative articles are way over the top, as are the liberal ones, but I thought the video was eye opening. I know there is probably a counter video, but wow!
But the simple fact is it's not over the top. ISIS and other jihadists thrive in certain Muslim countries because that is what they think. They kill their own kind because it not in line with a groups sec. And these are the classic Shiite vs Sunni genocide reports. But they all agree on a Muslim dominated world and the non believer needs to be converted or be killed. Lije i said before the Muslim religion never went though an enlightenment period like Christianity did hundreds of years ago. They still are engaged in a modern day Muslim Inquisition.
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Only takes 8 when you take away a populations ability to defend itself.
So i would say a high majority of these "refugees" are probably by definition Muslim extremists. They're from Syria so they haven't been westernized one bit.
We know many of the "refugees" want to blow our heads off, and our families head, and we have a president who is fighting for their right to do it. He needs to leave office, the next election cannot get here soon enough.
Glad to see the racism and bigot card come out so soon.
As a Christian I am to provide and protect my own home and family as well. If I fail to do that then I am worse than a non-believer.
What is the acceptable percentage of those who will kill you because you are not them, regardless of religion or race? Please let us know 1% 5% 10%? If there is not sufficient vetting process to ensure that our families are not going to be safe, then that isn't being a Christian, it is being a willing target and making the rest of us targets as well.
What is the vetting process? Could a modern day Ellis island be opened up for this vetting process?
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/isis-smuggler-we-will-use-refugee-crisis-to-infiltrate-west/
Here is an article from september which detailed how ISIS was infiltrating using the refugees crisis and liberal views
Here is an article from september which detailed how ISIS was infiltrating using the refugees crisis and liberal views
Where to start with this sad, shameful thread? Let's take some quotes from the OP's article link, which I'm wondering if any of you bothered to read.
"They're still in that hell," said Abla Hasan, a Syrian immigrant and modern language professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. "If we fear ISIS, they share with us the same fear."
Younes Tumeh, a supervisor at a Lincoln Village Inn who has lived in Nebraska for three decades, questioned why people blame his fellow Syrians for the deaths in Paris even after a Syrian passport found on one of the attackers was determined to have been faked.
The governor's actions "send a message to American people that Syrian people will bring terrorism with them, which is really not true," Tumeh said.
Hasan and her husband, grocery store owner Hassan Saleh, moved to Lincoln about seven years ago. Two of their three sons were born in America and are U.S. citizens. The couple also has older family members living as refugees in Jordan, Turkey and England, who they would like to someday bring to the United States.
"It's extremely tragic, what's going on," Damascus Market owner Saleh said Monday, but Americans and other Westerners shouldn't extend their outrage to all Syrians, or all Muslims, by discriminating against them or refusing to help."
Yet in this thread, we have many suggestions like this one: "So i would say a high majority of these "refugees" are probably by definition Muslim extremists. They're from Syria so they haven't been westernized one bit."
Later in the original article, we have this quote:
"The president, who told his administration in September to take in at least 10,000 displaced Syrians in the next year, criticized those who have called for halting the process.
"The United States has to step up and do its part," he said at a news conference during the G-20 summit in Turkey. "And when I hear folks say that, well, maybe we should just admit the Christians but not the Muslims, when I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which person who's fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted, when some of those folks themselves come from families who benefited from protection when they were fleeing political persecution, that's shameful.
"That's not American, it's not who we are," he added."
In this thread, we have a few posters state that the president is a traitor for thinking this. A traitor, for advancing a line of thought that has set our country apart as the shining standard for the last two and a half centuries.
Also in this thread, we have someone quoting Abraham Lincoln to support Xenophobia. Lincoln would have no truck with that line of thinking.
I'm as mortified by the very real threat of Radical Islam as anyone else, and the solutions aren't easy. Our open society sets us apart, and Radical Islam despises us for this strength. It is a difficult trap we're in, in as much as Radical Islam exploits our great strength as a weakness. The question is, what kind of victory shall we hand them? Do we allow them to turn our backs on who we are and what we stand for, in trade for a feeling of security? Have we not done that enough in the last decade? It is easy to stand up for our beliefs in good times, but standing up for them now requires courage. I implore you all to reconsider your views. Each freedom and ideal we willingly trade away for security moves us further away from who and what we are.
"They're still in that hell," said Abla Hasan, a Syrian immigrant and modern language professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. "If we fear ISIS, they share with us the same fear."
Younes Tumeh, a supervisor at a Lincoln Village Inn who has lived in Nebraska for three decades, questioned why people blame his fellow Syrians for the deaths in Paris even after a Syrian passport found on one of the attackers was determined to have been faked.
The governor's actions "send a message to American people that Syrian people will bring terrorism with them, which is really not true," Tumeh said.
Hasan and her husband, grocery store owner Hassan Saleh, moved to Lincoln about seven years ago. Two of their three sons were born in America and are U.S. citizens. The couple also has older family members living as refugees in Jordan, Turkey and England, who they would like to someday bring to the United States.
"It's extremely tragic, what's going on," Damascus Market owner Saleh said Monday, but Americans and other Westerners shouldn't extend their outrage to all Syrians, or all Muslims, by discriminating against them or refusing to help."
Yet in this thread, we have many suggestions like this one: "So i would say a high majority of these "refugees" are probably by definition Muslim extremists. They're from Syria so they haven't been westernized one bit."
Later in the original article, we have this quote:
"The president, who told his administration in September to take in at least 10,000 displaced Syrians in the next year, criticized those who have called for halting the process.
"The United States has to step up and do its part," he said at a news conference during the G-20 summit in Turkey. "And when I hear folks say that, well, maybe we should just admit the Christians but not the Muslims, when I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which person who's fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted, when some of those folks themselves come from families who benefited from protection when they were fleeing political persecution, that's shameful.
"That's not American, it's not who we are," he added."
In this thread, we have a few posters state that the president is a traitor for thinking this. A traitor, for advancing a line of thought that has set our country apart as the shining standard for the last two and a half centuries.
Also in this thread, we have someone quoting Abraham Lincoln to support Xenophobia. Lincoln would have no truck with that line of thinking.
I'm as mortified by the very real threat of Radical Islam as anyone else, and the solutions aren't easy. Our open society sets us apart, and Radical Islam despises us for this strength. It is a difficult trap we're in, in as much as Radical Islam exploits our great strength as a weakness. The question is, what kind of victory shall we hand them? Do we allow them to turn our backs on who we are and what we stand for, in trade for a feeling of security? Have we not done that enough in the last decade? It is easy to stand up for our beliefs in good times, but standing up for them now requires courage. I implore you all to reconsider your views. Each freedom and ideal we willingly trade away for security moves us further away from who and what we are.
I want to make sure I'm clear. So if we don't allow a single Syrian refugee we're safe from terrorism? No refugees allowed and I can pretend I'm safe from the ISIS boogeyman, right?
This thread is great. Continuing to watch people pretend like ideologies are spread by personal contact. Here's a tip. ISIS won't be solved in the way you treat tuberculosis. But yeah, let's go ahead and stereotype and label because that's not going to feed right into the mouth of the ISIS agenda.
I'm not in favor of allowing every single refugee in the door without any sort of vetting process. However, I also believe that slamming one door shut is just ignorant and while it might seem like a bright idea, you need to weigh the potential benefits against the potential consequences.
If ISIS attacked France like they did on the 13th every single day for 4+ years would you be so adamant about not allowing French refugees into America? Do you understand that the Syrian civil war has produced more civilian deaths than 4 straight years of Paris attacks?
Before you start throwing numbers and other "facts" at me to justify your entrenched position, I'd recommend fact checking those numbers. I've seen people getting awfully lazy with the "facts" they post. Of course, once that "fact" has been repeated enough times, it gets accepted as truth and used to justify our perception bias.
If you want to slam the door to legal immigration to people seeking asylum from a multi-year civil war, I'd like to hear your rationale. I'm always interested in hearing alternative viewpoints ... and I already know my viewpoint isn't remotely popular.
This thread is great. Continuing to watch people pretend like ideologies are spread by personal contact. Here's a tip. ISIS won't be solved in the way you treat tuberculosis. But yeah, let's go ahead and stereotype and label because that's not going to feed right into the mouth of the ISIS agenda.
I'm not in favor of allowing every single refugee in the door without any sort of vetting process. However, I also believe that slamming one door shut is just ignorant and while it might seem like a bright idea, you need to weigh the potential benefits against the potential consequences.
If ISIS attacked France like they did on the 13th every single day for 4+ years would you be so adamant about not allowing French refugees into America? Do you understand that the Syrian civil war has produced more civilian deaths than 4 straight years of Paris attacks?
Before you start throwing numbers and other "facts" at me to justify your entrenched position, I'd recommend fact checking those numbers. I've seen people getting awfully lazy with the "facts" they post. Of course, once that "fact" has been repeated enough times, it gets accepted as truth and used to justify our perception bias.
If you want to slam the door to legal immigration to people seeking asylum from a multi-year civil war, I'd like to hear your rationale. I'm always interested in hearing alternative viewpoints ... and I already know my viewpoint isn't remotely popular.
While reading the back and forth here (and changing 0 minds, you're all literally just typing away to hear the clicking of the keyboard), one thought did come up for me. Say these republican governors (yes, by my count, which was last night admittedly, so unless things changed since then, they are all republican) get their way... How exactly do you physically stop immigrants from coming into the state? Say they come into the US in one of the big bad democrats states, and one of them is the big bad ISIS, and he has plans to take out a spot in Nebraska... How exactly are you going to stop that from happening. Gonna card everyone coming into the state? Good luck with that... I bet there are hundreds roads to get into this state, and thousands of other ways if you don't mind walking though a field or crossing a river.
Look what I'm getting at here, is this is all playing up to your audience by Republican governors. They've all got their voter base riled up, and now they can count on their vote again at the next election. If you think any of them has the resources to keep an immigrant out if they really wanted in... Well, you're delusional at best.
Look what I'm getting at here, is this is all playing up to your audience by Republican governors. They've all got their voter base riled up, and now they can count on their vote again at the next election. If you think any of them has the resources to keep an immigrant out if they really wanted in... Well, you're delusional at best.
The governor stuff to me is pretty dumb. The refugees that make it into the US there is no way to stop them from going to any state they want.
A counter video?????????? That's the problem in our culture. Believing there is a video to excuse evil.
"Well they probably had a good reason for killing those kids. Bill, let's go to the counter video which justifies the slaughter. But can we lead in with the story that Jerry Sandusky was just a misunderstood philanthropist?"
You really hit the nail on the head.
100 people standing in a room. 92 of them say, "I think we should do X, Y and Z." 8 of them say, "Nope, can't do that."
Who does the supreme court listen to? . . .
Why even have voting if minority extremists get to make all the decisions thru the courts?
"Safespace" as defined by Dems. vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
The gunman who shot and killed four Marines Thursday during two attacks at military facilities in Chattanooga, Tenn., has been identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, a law enforcement source confirmed.
Abdulazeez, 24, was born in Kuwait, a U.S. official told the AP. It was not immediately clear if he was a U.S. or Kuwaiti citizen. He was reported to be from Hixson, Tenn., just across the Tennessee River from Chattanooga.
A well-placed source in Chattanooga told the AP that one of the Marines who was killed was a "decorated war hero with two Purple Hearts." The youngest was 19 years old, the source said. Defense officials also said late Thursday a female sailor was in surgery after being shot.
^^^^^^^^^^ Notice the killer's bullets penetrated the glass around the sign that says GUN FREE ZONE!
That's right, our military isn't allowed to have guns. Daaaym, we iz a smart people.
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But our resident bleeding heart likes to use attacks on military personnel as a sick example of his agenda that nobody should be allowed to have the ability to defend themselves."Safespace" as defined by Dems. vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
The gunman who shot and killed four Marines Thursday during two attacks at military facilities in Chattanooga, Tenn., has been identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, a law enforcement source confirmed.
Abdulazeez, 24, was born in Kuwait, a U.S. official told the AP. It was not immediately clear if he was a U.S. or Kuwaiti citizen. He was reported to be from Hixson, Tenn., just across the Tennessee River from Chattanooga.
A well-placed source in Chattanooga told the AP that one of the Marines who was killed was a "decorated war hero with two Purple Hearts." The youngest was 19 years old, the source said. Defense officials also said late Thursday a female sailor was in surgery after being shot.
^^^^^^^^^^ Notice the killer's bullets penetrated the glass around the sign that says GUN FREE ZONE!
That's right, our military isn't allowed to have guns. Daaaym, we iz a smart people.
When did moving society backwards and in the direction of a theocracy become an ideal? Here's an ideal you may not know about. It's called the right to protect yourself. It's in our constitution. Some day you may want to read the document. Our POTUS certainly hasn't.
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