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Ricketts can say anything he wants. The issue is a 100% Federal issue, and whatever the Congress/President says will be the law of the entire land. I am not saying that I am for or against it, just that what Ricketts say has no more meaning than what you or I do on the matter.
 
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Great news. Totally against it until they can vet them, and damn thoroughly. This government can't get a website right for people to sign up for Obamacare, and the VA is an absolute disgrace right now. They need to take care of our soldiers before blindly allowing in refugees.

Look out man, you are a hater and people are going to attack you like a man hit with a paternity test result on the Maury Povich show.

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Look out man, you are a hater and people are going to attack you like a man hit with a paternity test result on the Maury Povich show.

It is his opinion, and he has the right to his opinion. Why would anyone attack an opinion? That never happens on here.
 
More states jumping on the hater wagon by the hour. Interesting.

It is a difficult moral issue for sure. Those of us who are Christian are mandated by the Bible to help the least of those among us.....and yet the fear tied to helping is undeniable. I would assume that 100% of conservative states will be against the President, as they have on every issue. That is no surprise at all.
 
It is a difficult moral issue for sure. Those of us who are Christian are mandated by the Bible to help the least of those among us.....and yet the fear tied to helping is undeniable. I would assume that 100% of conservative states will be against the President, as they have on every issue. That is no surprise at all.

That's as an individual, not government sanction.

100% America should be against the president. What's funny is the democrats would rather criticize the Republicans instead of criticizing the Muslim nations that won't take them,
 
Turkey has admitted almost 2 million refugees from Syria. Tiny Lebanon over one million, Jordan over 600,000 and Iraq over a quarter million. Many Muslim nations have accepted a lot of refugees (a few of the rich nations over there like Saudi Arabia could do more, but we rarely criticize them whatever barbarities they do, because oil). The US said we could bring in 10,000, and there are absolutely refugees fleeing a terrible situation in Syria caused by both their leadership and ISIS.

We have a long history of bringing in refugees from war-torn nations, consistently 50,000 - 75,000 a year.

Are you saying we should stop accepting any refugees, or just those refugees?
 
Turkey has admitted almost 2 million refugees from Syria. Tiny Lebanon over one million, Jordan over 600,000 and Iraq over a quarter million. Many Muslim nations have accepted a lot of refugees (a few of the rich nations over there like Saudi Arabia could do more, but we rarely criticize them whatever barbarities they do, because oil). The US said we could bring in 10,000, and there are absolutely refugees fleeing a terrible situation in Syria caused by both their leadership and ISIS.

We have a long history of bringing in refugees from war-torn nations, consistently 50,000 - 75,000 a year.

Are you saying we should stop accepting any refugees, or just those refugees?



Refugees from Muslim nations. Besides, most of them are men. They need to turn around and go fight. Times have changed we have enough people living off the government as it is.
 
Turkey has admitted almost 2 million refugees from Syria. Tiny Lebanon over one million, Jordan over 600,000 and Iraq over a quarter million. Many Muslim nations have accepted a lot of refugees (a few of the rich nations over there like Saudi Arabia could do more, but we rarely criticize them whatever barbarities they do, because oil). The US said we could bring in 10,000, and there are absolutely refugees fleeing a terrible situation in Syria caused by both their leadership and ISIS.

We have a long history of bringing in refugees from war-torn nations, consistently 50,000 - 75,000 a year.

Are you saying we should stop accepting any refugees, or just those refugees?

We have no obligations to take ANYONE!
 
We have no obligations to take ANYONE!

WWJD.....if you are a believer, we are given the obligation in the Bible to help the least among us. Several Republican Presidential candidates are saying that we should take Syrian Christian refugees, and not Syrian muslim refugees. That goes against everything this country has ever stood for from day one.
 
The people need to decide on this issue, in addition to the states. Period. I am fully against dictation by the Fed of any kind.
 
WWJD.....if you are a believer, we are given the obligation in the Bible to help the least among us. Several Republican Presidential candidates are saying that we should take Syrian Christian refugees, and not Syrian muslim refugees. That goes against everything this country has ever stood for from day one.
Simple vetting process: put a jew in front of them and ask them to denounce Hamas, on record for the world to see (a website with a video list should work). That would be a good start, and eliminate some. Throw the rest in Chicago, fence it in, and see what happens. They will be safe from all of us red state racist rednecks!!!
 
Ricketts can say anything he wants. The issue is a 100% Federal issue, and whatever the Congress/President says will be the law of the entire land. I am not saying that I am for or against it, just that what Ricketts say has no more meaning than what you or I do on the matter.


People keep saying this but in reality, if enough opposition exists, things can and will change. Good for Ricketts.
 
Hmmm. So we should have a religious test for determining what refugees we allow in? I'm a Bible-thumping Christian and that's not the way we do things. BTW--all of the terrorists identified so far are European nationals. Look, I can understand that everyone is afraid. There's good reason to be afraid. But those are the times when the courage of our convictions need to be held up high and proudly. Just my humble opinion.
 
I get the fear. But I refuse to judge an entire group of people by the actions of ISIS. Westboro Baptist is on record as being Christian......yet I dont know how many Christians would want to be judged by their actions. (Im not saying they are Christians..thats between God and them).

Absolutely I want myself, family, and state to be safe. But where will we draw the line if we start making decisions based on a person's religion?
 
I get the fear. But I refuse to judge an entire group of people by the actions of ISIS. Westboro Baptist is on record as being Christian......yet I dont know how many Christians would want to be judged by their actions. (Im not saying they are Christians..thats between God and them).

Absolutely I want myself, family, and state to be safe. But where will we draw the line if we start making decisions based on a person's religion?
Every single government intelligence agency around the world puts the percntage of "radicals" in the Muslim population at 15-20 percent. I don't give 2 shits what they choose to do in their own countries/regions. I can deal with occasional nut job down the street, but don't think it is wise at all to blindly let them in this country. 2 out of every 10 hate us enough to be violent. Preach to me all you want about hugs and understanding. I live in a damn fine city (Lincoln) that has not had a recorded homicide in 2015. There is alot of good people here thay have no will to sneak into other countries to kill innocent people in the name of religion. Don't tell me I am hateful, when the opposite side is so full of blind hatred that causes all of these issues and has a scary percentage that wants to kill me because of my beliefs.
 
Hmmm. So we should have a religious test for determining what refugees we allow in? I'm a Bible-thumping Christian and that's not the way we do things. BTW--all of the terrorists identified so far are European nationals. Look, I can understand that everyone is afraid. There's good reason to be afraid. But those are the times when the courage of our convictions need to be held up high and proudly. Just my humble opinion.
I didn't say they had to denounce their Muslim religion.
 
Every single government intelligence agency around the world puts the percntage of "radicals" in the Muslim population at 15-20 percent. I don't give 2 shits what they choose to do in their own countries/regions. I can deal with occasional nut job down the street, but don't think it is wise at all to blindly let them in this country. 2 out of every 10 hate us enough to be violent. Preach to me all you want about hugs and understanding. I live in a damn fine city (Lincoln) that has not had a recorded homicide in 2015. There is alot of good people here thay have no will to sneak into other countries to kill innocent people in the name of religion. Don't tell me I am hateful, when the opposite side is so full of blind hatred that causes all of these issues and has a scary percentage that wants to kill me because of my beliefs.


Remember, there is appr. 2 billion Muslims in the world. By your estimation that puts the radicals at 300-400 million. Thats a lot of radicals.
 
Ricketts can say anything he wants. The issue is a 100% Federal issue, and whatever the Congress/President says will be the law of the entire land. I am not saying that I am for or against it, just that what Ricketts say has no more meaning than what you or I do on the matter.
Last time I checked, it was CONGRESS who made laws not the Executive Branch. However, given that we a have a President who considers himself a King, thus allowing himself to bypass the other two branches of our government and their Constitutional duties; he'll do whatever the hell he wants. He's been doing that since day one and will continue until the last minutes of his Monarchy, err, Presidency.
 
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Remember, there is appr. 2 billion Muslims in the world. By your estimation that puts the radicals at 300-400 million. Thats a lot of radicals.
People can't grasp reality, simply giving them handouts will just make it easier. I do feel bad for the majority that are innocent. But I see no need to take in anybody when the potus said just last week that ISIS is under control. That means they can safely go home, right?
 
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Remember, there is appr. 2 billion Muslims in the world. By your estimation that puts the radicals at 300-400 million. Thats a lot of radicals.
thats the concern - now obviously these people are not violent however they do agree with many of the same principles
 
Only a fool would allow these "refugees" into their state.
Why the quotes around "refugees?" Do you believe all these people are ISIS fighters planning a sneak attack on America under the guise of running away from ISIS? Is ISIS's killing of scores of Muslims just part of the plan? Please enlighten us.
 
So Beaver, what's your answer to this? I understand that you don't want the US messing with ISIS because "it's not happening here," but where it is happening, hundreds of thousands of people are suffering. So it seems to me that, in a vacuum, you are ok with the US sitting back and letting those people suffer because "it's not happening here." However, the action of ISIS is having an affect on the US as now tens of thousands of refugees who are trying to get away from ISIS are trying to come to the US. Does that mean the US should try and do something, even if "it's not happening here?"
 
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So is it worth it to let in 10000 refugees knowing 99.9 percent are harmless but maybe .1 percent is isis and can carry through with and attack. If Paris shows anything it doesn't take very many to take a big toll
 
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Last time I checked, it was CONGRESS who made laws not the Executive Branch. However, given that we a have a President who considers himself a King, thus allowing himself to bypass the other two branches of our government and their Constitutional duties; he'll do whatever the hell he wants. He's been doing that since day one and will continue until the last minutes of his Monarchy, err, Presidency.

There are three branches that govern. I said it should be determined by the Congress and the President.....not sure why you went of on your President tangent. As of Nov 2, 2105, Obama had issued 223 executive order vs 291 for George W Bush. Were you complaining about every move Bush made too?
 
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So is it worth it to let in 10000 refugees knowing 99.9 percent are harmless but maybe .1 percent is isis and can carry through with and attack. If Paris shows anything it doesn't take very many to take a big toll
we know nothing about these refugees for all we know 2000 out of ten thousand could be ISIS - But it is almost a certainty there would be ISIS among these refugees
 
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