"The world is getting more dangerous..."
You sound like everyone's grandpa. You're one of those blue hairs at Memorial Stadium yelling at people to sit down, aren't you?
OT- Lancaster County needs military style vehicles?
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You sound like everyone's grandpa. You're one of those blue hairs at Memorial Stadium yelling at people to sit down, aren't you?
I'm 47, and my hair is a 50/50 between brown and gray, is that close enough?
Not sure how you could argue otherwise about the dangers we face in the world now, but if you think it's safer that's great. Probably best to ignore reality and assume everything is fine. It's a quality I don't have but admire those that do.
Not sure how you could argue otherwise about the dangers we face in the world now, but if you think it's safer that's great. Probably best to ignore reality and assume everything is fine. It's a quality I don't have but admire those that do.
"For the life of me I can't comprehend why somebody would be against this"
Me personally I'm not. I just said I couldn't dismiss the counter-argument out of hand, which is basically what your quoted text does.
" I want big guns in the right hands, and badass people carrying them who are willing to lay down their life to protect me."
That's cool too, but the unstated assumption from you is that government hands will always be the right hands. The Founding Generation took a different tack with their assumptions about the well meaningness of governments, but you are entitled to your opinion.
Me personally I'm not. I just said I couldn't dismiss the counter-argument out of hand, which is basically what your quoted text does.
" I want big guns in the right hands, and badass people carrying them who are willing to lay down their life to protect me."
That's cool too, but the unstated assumption from you is that government hands will always be the right hands. The Founding Generation took a different tack with their assumptions about the well meaningness of governments, but you are entitled to your opinion.
the Lincoln PD is the worst police force in the midwest. they are unprofessional and treat everyone with disrespect.
The world has always been a dangerous place. There's been crap people from the beginning of time. The only thing that's changed is the amount of information available to you about how many crap people there are.
So with all this stuff you talk about, I can only assume you'd be for getting guns out of criminals hands. Tell me again why we can't have any discussion on gun regulation?
I just can't shake the odd feeling i had watching this vehicle rolling down the road. newAD made some valid points but still the obvious remains. This country isn't a police state and we don't live under a dictator's thumb. Also this isn't a European country used to the yoke of a ruler. The National Guard is where these types of weapons of war need to be. Not patrolling the city as would a patrol car.
I've been pulled over a couple times in Lincoln, and this is just literally not true, at all. Sorry, but this was a very ignorant post.
I hope this happens to you next.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/se...ve-clothes-public-jailed-driving-classic-car/
Go check out Photography is Not a Crime. Unbelievable stuff on there.
Kind of makes you wonder if that sort of thing has always gone on, but we just have smartphones now.
You're right, we have some. It needs to be updated and actually used. The shooter in Charleston should not have been able to buy the gun he used. Our current regulation doesn't work.
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This vehicle should be used on an extremely rare basis. It should be started about once a week to ensure it will run when needed, and last as long as possible. If it is overused it wont last long, and most local agencies can't come up with the funds to pay for another. If this vehicle is ever just randomly patrolling Lincoln/Lancaster County without a really good reason, then I'd be the first the question the decision.
I've posted in the past that although I want gun rights, I differ with the NRA on some issues.
The problem is that felons can't buy guns, but it will never stop others from buying guns for them. Or burglarizing homes that have them.
I have a lot of guns in my home, but they are in a very heavy gun safe, so good luck.
I would completely agree with you if it were not for the fact that enemies of the state now are no longer members of an organized state military wearing a noticeable uniform. They are members of organizations that may get some funding and arms from states, but they are not for the most part taking marching orders from leaders of those states.
Cool it appears my gestapo propaganda and jedi mind tricks that of course we are all trained is working perfectly, just as planned. Don't tell anyone but we are conspiring to dispose of the constitution in order to usher in the New World Order. Just hope it all happens before I retire, as I don't want to have to go to the re-education camp.
Well the way the Founders thought of the question was in the grand sense, a theory of everything if you will. The threat not defined to a specific set of people, and what they might or might not be wearing and or carrying into battle. I would agree with them that its probably easier to form a system of beliefs based on principles rather than trying to form said system around a series of observances and exceptions.
I think the bottom line is this, their attitude can be summed up thusly:
"We won't give the government the tools to oppress anyone because its the right thing to do".
People who generally put forth "well I don't intend to start trouble with authority", their theory is just as easily summed up:
"I'm going to give the government the tools to oppress everyone but cheer them to use said tools on those people over there. Lets hope they never find reason to question me."
Terrorists are less capable than foreign governments, lets not throw away a great gift over the B team.
But again, if you see a tool to rescue injured officers and civilians as a tool to oppress. That's paranoia IMO.
That's quite a bit of should and hope mixed together.
There was an article not real long ago about how cities build SWAT capability, SWAT capability is employed at all time highs, for calls where SWAT historically wouldn't be employed. Further feeding a circle where then more SWAT capability is acquired.
The govt isn't going to spend a ton of money on toys, to let them rot out in the garage.
It can be either. The same as the assault rifles carried.
”Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”George Washington
Does he sound paranoid? Probably, and I a million percent agree with you that the City of Lincoln is an unlikely oppressor. But at some point the populace has to decide at what point will they live out principle or circumstance of the moment. Maybe this isn't it, but there's good arguments that it could be.
Speak for yourself. I`ve spoken with more random people who would agree with me more than they would you.
The vehicle was most likely obtained through the Federal Govt. 1033 excess property program, it allows law enforcement agencies to obtain equipment at no cost, except to maintain it, which must be considered. But still allows the agency to equip for certain situations without placing the burden of cost on the taxpayers. It is not a free shopping trip to the armory, all requests for equipment must be explained to the Feds, why the item is needed and how it is to be used. Used properly it is a great program. Most items will at some point have to be returned to the Feds.
It may seem shocking to see some of the items, but would you want your police dept. to have an answer to a problem or just sit and wait for help?
It may seem shocking to see some of the items, but would you want your police dept. to have an answer to a problem or just sit and wait for help?
As for Lincoln P.D. , My only experience with them was great.
A convicted sex offender, who was on parole in California and made a sort of an internet romance with a young mother in Ga. who did everything she should not have done ( sent him pictures of her and her 12 yr, old daughter and told him her address). Anyway bad guy tells mom his is coming to see her and describes what he is going to do to both of them, mom tells her local police about it, she knew he was on parole but not what for. We found out, later mom called in a panic and stated that he was on a bus and had a layover in Lincoln, he had told her the motel he was staying at. We called California and they had issued a warrant because he left the state, I called Lincoln P.D. and in about 45 minutes bad guy was in jail.
I wish my agency got that kind of help all the time.
A convicted sex offender, who was on parole in California and made a sort of an internet romance with a young mother in Ga. who did everything she should not have done ( sent him pictures of her and her 12 yr, old daughter and told him her address). Anyway bad guy tells mom his is coming to see her and describes what he is going to do to both of them, mom tells her local police about it, she knew he was on parole but not what for. We found out, later mom called in a panic and stated that he was on a bus and had a layover in Lincoln, he had told her the motel he was staying at. We called California and they had issued a warrant because he left the state, I called Lincoln P.D. and in about 45 minutes bad guy was in jail.
I wish my agency got that kind of help all the time.
Here are some facts.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/10/fbi-chief-roof-gun-shooting/29966337/
Even a quote from the FBI director.
"I am here today to talk to you about a mistake, in a matter of heartbreaking importance to all of us,'' Comey said in a briefing at FBI headquarters. "Dylann Roof, the alleged killer of so many innocent people ... should not have been allowed to purchase the gun he allegedly used that evening.''
What other facts are you talking about?
You act like him being the FBI direct gives him credibility... on the contrary he is just pushing his and Obama's agenda and it is despicable for him to use a tragedy to do so.
Also you don't include the reason Comey said he should not have been allowed to purchase the gun. Extremely disingenuous of you
http://news.yahoo.com/fbis-dylann-roof-gun-snafu-hurts-obamas-gun-170916362.html
The FBI screwed up, that's why he got the gun, not because of a lack of laws or regulations.
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