wait.. this is the FOURTH discrimination settlement iowa's paid out under their current grand wizard I mean AD?
OT: Iowa settles in racism suit; will pay out $4 million in damages
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They would rather be average at FB instead of firing (with cause) their coach and having to start over...amazing!wait.. this is the FOURTH discrimination settlement iowa's paid out under their current grand wizard I mean AD?
at this point, which B1G schools haven't paid large sums to victims of their long-tenured employees?
what a cesspool
But But...AAU!!!
I already saw posts about how Big Ten fans don't want Oregon because of their academics!
With this conference, it just never ends.
It does equate to about $1/iowan to pay the attorneys….and as a former Iowan, it’s still repulsive….yet peanuts to the plaintiffs.
It’s unfortunate all around- especially for the people of iowa. Iowa is historically a very progressive state on race related issues. Look it up.
Unfortunate for the fb program(yes, I understand that means nothing here).
Unfortunate because being an asshole or insensitive is one thing(that’s pretty clearly the case with a couple of those originally named in the lawsuit- and also a couple of the players dismissed or that walked back claims when pressed). Being inherently racist yet another, but really that’s not realistic when you have so many AA coaches on the staff and players- far more that came to the defense of their former coaches(including Nebraska native Noah Fant).
Being blind to some it(Ferentz) is also unfortunate.
Unfortunate the bulk of the settlement goes to the attorneys that pushed the issue more than the players who had no money. As their clients had diminishing odds of winning and almost certainly no chance of paying the attorney fees. Understandably the coaches wanted their day in court.
So, masterful job by the plaintiff’s attorneys to release the coaches from the suit, who wanted their day in court, and have the state liable….got them their $2.5m.
The world would be better if people quit dividing between good and evil, black and white. In this case like most situations…there’s context and gray areas.
The AD should not survive. Probably will see a retirement announced as he’s at that age, recent cancer survivor. New AD will bring new structure. Coaching changes typically follow AD changes in relatively short order- a season or two, and Ferentz is at ‘that’ age as well.
We’ll have new Iowa fodder soon
same coaches who steadfastly refused to be deposed now "wanted their day in court"?
yea, okay
Facts hurts some narrative… and understanding of the legal system
I hate to keep reposting this, but the iowa fans ITT seem to need a daily reminder, this is how things went down with the settlement:
Iowa BOR to the former players, “Dismiss the valid and credible law suits against individual coaches and we’ll pay 4 million dollars.”
Former player’s attorneys, “we’ll dismiss the individual law suits, however we’ll retain the right to reopen in the future and you’ll pay us 4 million dollars to settle this valid and credible lawsuit.”
Iowa BOR response, “You have us by the short hairs, we accept the offer and we can now consider this matter adequately swept under the rug.”
The coaches were dismissed as part of the bargain to payout. Instead of holding the coaching staff and administration accountable and having them pay. Kirk and his buddies stick it again to the state of Iowa and make their fans pay for their mistakes. You suckers just keep letting Kirk and Barta bend you over the coals year in and year out. Not surprising that you would continue to defend them though...
And SWIowahawks thinks its hilarious. But he's a good guy everybody. Not at all like his brethren or nothin. A real asset to have over here rather than posting with like minded over on the Hawk board.
I mean, Prime Told told his team “No hats, hoodies or earrings in team meetings”. If that was said by a white coach I’m guessing that’s racist
Don’t you know in the world we’re living in only white people are racists according to the far left..
Enlighten us, counselor. What don’t we understand. And perhaps use your research and citation skills to cite these facts and the code of civil procedure.
Incorrect, but that’s ok if you
They are easily available. Google., or If you’ve sprung for a prescription of the Athletic, this has been covered in great, great lengths for a long, long time. Go to their site, tap the magnifying glass, type in the obvious search words.
It’s been unsettling every step of the way
Cecil, I asked for you to prove you had some clue about actual legal rules and processes, but you’ve revealed you don’t.
I see though you post in the discussions of this on the Iowa board, so I strongly encourage you to read and understand AuroraHawk’s posts therein too. He makes it quite clear the bs tough guy stance the Ferentzes are peddling, from a legal perspective.
I refuse to post there too, but I’d add to his analysis that the voluntary dismissal process last week of necessity must have involved the information of an impending settlement if the coaches were dismissed. FRCP 41 does not allow a plaintiff to simply dismiss his case if the defendant has a MSJ pending; it’d be unjust to deny the defendant an outright victory instead of just the plaintiff dropping it in the face of certain defeat. In that circumstance, the defendant may object, and the voluntary can only be granted with court approval, which as I recall was given there and then.
If Kirk had so damn much faith in his MSJ, and truly wanted it resolved, the court almost certainly would not have allowed the voluntary over the coach’s objection. No way.
So you see, Kirk touts his strong MSJ, but what motion wouldn’t have some strength before the coach himself had been cross examined? Kirks been avoiding putting hand on the Bible for a year, and his testimony was the next step in the summary judgment proceedings.
Yet oddly it’d appear the coach didn’t file an objection to the voluntary dismissal motion. I wonder why. Perhaps, just perhaps, he knew he wouldn’t even have to sign a settlement agreement a week later that included a lawyerly denial of liability, and he could drop an indignant press release instead.
This is not going away
www.yahoo.com
Lawyer: Black Iowa football players at risk under Ferentz
The attorney representing a dozen former Iowa football players who settled their racial discrimination lawsuit with the university's athletic department for over $4 million — half of which is coming from taxpayer funds — said Tuesday that Black Hawkeyes players will continue to be at risk of...
Look, Iowa fans, think about it...
Is it more likely that Kirk and some of the coaches are a bit racist or is it more likely that Kirk and ALL of the coaches are not racist at all and have never once made any type of comment that could have made players uncomfortable?
Is it more likely that Kirk and some of the coaches are a bit racist or is it more likely that Kirk and ALL of the coaches are not racist at all and have never once made any type of comment that could have made players uncomfortable?
You seem to have a good understanding of the law, and thus understand the dimensions, and perspectives. Trust you’ve followed this through every step.
If not - do a little search on Damario Solomon-Simmons.
can you explain your referring to iowa as "we" elsewhere on the internet?
this context will help frame your posts on the matter
thanks in advance
I think he forgets which side of his mouth he is talking out of.
Defending iowa as not being racist is a wild hill to die on
Who's dying on a hill over it? I know a lot of fans deaperately want it to be true...believe what you wish...no skin off my nose.
