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GBRforLife1 said:
False equivalency is the hallmark of a fraud.

Does it take a plumber to notice you don't have hot water?

Really if this is your standard no doctor should be talking about wearing masks because they're not physicists. There's no way they can be knowledgeable about particle dispersion.

People were literally fired from their jobs for not getting the vax. They were forced. For you to ignore that says a lot about you.
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In health care, yes. Our obligation is to protect the patients. I got them to protect me as well. It’s not the first thing we were forced to do that all of us didn’t want to. unapproved abbreviations we can’t use that everyone knows, cant use “cows” to describe Portable workstations, Can’t use SOB for shortness of breath. Have to enter all our orders ourselves, etc. It’s still a great field, but it has become more “corporate”

Sure, anyone can tell you don’t have hot water. But replacing a gas water heater? You want somebody qualified to do that. Maybe that’s you, but since we don’t know what you do…….
 
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I asked AI to create an image of what @61bigredfan & @Hawkins63 look like based off their posts.

Here’s what it gave me:



these-weird-ai-generated-reddit-moderators-someone-posted-v0-2v2pm71fylgc1.jpg
 
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Lol and 61 is on here cheering putting financial incentives first. But you have an "obligation" to protect your patients. 🤡🤡🤡 #Fraud

 
GBRforLife1 said:
False equivalency is the hallmark of a fraud.

Does it take a plumber to notice you don't have hot water?

Really if this is your standard no doctor should be talking about wearing masks because they're not physicists. There's no way they can be knowledgeable about particle dispersion.

People were literally fired from their jobs for not getting the vax. They were forced. For you to ignore that says a lot about you.
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Interesting. Let's keep our eyes on the prize here. As it stands:
1. You posed a tweet from a software engineer. The software engineer had posted an image and claimed it showed the vaccine was ineffective.
2. I commented that it was strange for a software engineer - who hasn't demonstrated any relevant expertise about the subject - to declare, based on the image, that it was proof the vaccine didn't work.
3. You yourself haven't discussed why the image proves the vaccine doesn't work. You haven't discussed high throughput sequencing and the image. Or any knowledge about the subject. Or knowledge about molecular biology. Or immunology.
4. You claim that expertise doesn't matter, and that the vaccine doesn't work.
5. I asked if you would go to the plumber for dental issues. Or the auto mechanic for a broken bone. You didn't answer those questions.
6. You use the analogy of noticing a hot water heater isn't working as being similar to noticing the vaccine isn't effective. That analogy, of course, has obvious problems. It doesn't even pass a middle-school level of reasoning.
7. You claim that my ignoring previous vaccine mandates (from 2021 or 2022) says something about me. OK. Well, this is 2024. There are no vaccine mandates anywhere.

A fraud? There might be one in this discussion. But I'm not the one claiming the image a software engineer posted on social media to be proof the vaccine doesn't work.
 
drhusker276 said:
Interesting. Let's keep our eyes on the prize here. As it stands:
1. You posed a tweet from a software engineer. The software engineer had posted an image and claimed it showed the vaccine was ineffective.
2. I commented that it was strange for a software engineer - who hasn't demonstrated any relevant expertise about the subject - to declare, based on the image, that it was proof the vaccine didn't work.
3. You yourself haven't discussed why the image proves the vaccine doesn't work. You haven't discussed high throughput sequencing and the image. Or any knowledge about the subject. Or knowledge about molecular biology. Or immunology.
4. You claim that expertise doesn't matter, and that the vaccine doesn't work.
5. I asked if you would go to the plumber for dental issues. Or the auto mechanic for a broken bone. You didn't answer those questions.
6. You use the analogy of noticing a hot water heater isn't working as being similar to noticing the vaccine isn't effective. That analogy, of course, has obvious problems. It doesn't even pass a middle-school level of reasoning.
7. You claim that my ignoring previous vaccine mandates (from 2021 or 2022) says something about me. OK. Well, this is 2024. There are no vaccine mandates anywhere.

A fraud? There might be one in this discussion. But I'm not the one claiming the image a software engineer posted on social media to be proof the vaccine doesn't work.
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#7 is pretty idiotic. Yeah I murdered several people in 2021 and 2022, but no one in 2024 so I’m not a murderer… more fry cook logic
 
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drhusker276 said:
Interesting. Let's keep our eyes on the prize here. As it stands:
1. You posed a tweet from a software engineer. The software engineer had posted an image and claimed it showed the vaccine was ineffective.
2. I commented that it was strange for a software engineer - who hasn't demonstrated any relevant expertise about the subject - to declare, based on the image, that it was proof the vaccine didn't work.
3. You yourself haven't discussed why the image proves the vaccine doesn't work. You haven't discussed high throughput sequencing and the image. Or any knowledge about the subject. Or knowledge about molecular biology. Or immunology.
4. You claim that expertise doesn't matter, and that the vaccine doesn't work.
5. I asked if you would go to the plumber for dental issues. Or the auto mechanic for a broken bone. You didn't answer those questions.
6. You use the analogy of noticing a hot water heater isn't working as being similar to noticing the vaccine isn't effective. That analogy, of course, has obvious problems. It doesn't even pass a middle-school level of reasoning.
7. You claim that my ignoring previous vaccine mandates (from 2021 or 2022) says something about me. OK. Well, this is 2024. There are no vaccine mandates anywhere.

A fraud? There might be one in this discussion. But I'm not the one claiming the image a software engineer posted on social media to be proof the vaccine doesn't work.
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Again both internet doctors are missing the point- shocker

The software engineer is only presenting the data from the testing that someone else performed. It doesn’t take an MD or PhD to read a report and draw conclusions.

The rest of your rebuttals and your list of counter points become irrelevant.
 
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61bigredfan said:
You would prefer doctors use Joe Bob on Twitter as a primary source of info rather than UpToDate?
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The data came from someone else, the data was put on X by a software engineer.

It is similar to you, a fry cook, taking information you got elsewhere and posting it here. You have used excerpts of studies, done by someone else, and are using your fry cook brain to discuss them and attempt to show that the vaccines did work.
 
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TampaBaySkers said:
www.lendingtree.com

Average Car Payment and Auto Loan Statistics: 2024 | LendingTree

The average car payment for new vehicles was $734 per month in the second quarter of 2024, a 0.1% increase from the second quarter of 2023.
www.lendingtree.com

Who can afford this? This will not end well.

The average car payment for a new vehicle is $735 monthly, used cars have an average monthly payment of $523.
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I'm a claim adjuster for a high risk ins company...if you have us for your auto ins, you earned it....and i'm seeing these payments first hand, and to make matters worse, people are upside down on their loans at an alarming rate.

One interesting things thats happemed and everyone has noticed, this isn't newz to anyone...is the prices for used cars now, and as a result, we are repairing cars that would have easily totalled 5 years ago. When your 15 y/o 4WD pickup is worth 29K now, you spend up to 22K or more to repair it because its cheaper than totalling.

Post Covid, the auto market has been turned on its head
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
The data came from someone else, the data was put on X by a software engineer.

It is similar to you, a fry cook, taking information you got elsewhere and posting it here. You have used excerpts of studies, done by someone else, and are using your fry cook brain to discuss them and attempt to show that the vaccines did work.
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You have a desperate need to believe the vaccine doesn’t work, why?
It’s just a vaccine. Why are you so afraid of the data?
 
61bigredfan said:
You have a desperate need to believe the vaccine doesn’t work, why?
It’s just a vaccine. Why are you so afraid of the data?
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I don’t have a desperate need for anything.

First of all “doc” this vaccine did nothing to prevent the spread of the virus. Or else the worthless masks wouldn’t have been needed. As a relatively healthy person, I was forced to take the jab if I wanted to keep my job. I waited until the last minute, then fortunately was only required to take the initial. I have not had the virus, although I know millions who have taken multiple boosters that have failed many Covid tests.

So what did this “vaccine” even accomplish?
 
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drhusker276 said:
Interesting. Let's keep our eyes on the prize here. As it stands:
1. You posed a tweet from a software engineer. The software engineer had posted an image and claimed it showed the vaccine was ineffective.
2. I commented that it was strange for a software engineer - who hasn't demonstrated any relevant expertise about the subject - to declare, based on the image, that it was proof the vaccine didn't work.
3. You yourself haven't discussed why the image proves the vaccine doesn't work. You haven't discussed high throughput sequencing and the image. Or any knowledge about the subject. Or knowledge about molecular biology. Or immunology.
4. You claim that expertise doesn't matter, and that the vaccine doesn't work.
5. I asked if you would go to the plumber for dental issues. Or the auto mechanic for a broken bone. You didn't answer those questions.
6. You use the analogy of noticing a hot water heater isn't working as being similar to noticing the vaccine isn't effective. That analogy, of course, has obvious problems. It doesn't even pass a middle-school level of reasoning.
7. You claim that my ignoring previous vaccine mandates (from 2021 or 2022) says something about me. OK. Well, this is 2024. There are no vaccine mandates anywhere.

A fraud? There might be one in this discussion. But I'm not the one claiming the image a software engineer posted on social media to be proof the vaccine doesn't work.
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1. I did not claim it showed the vaccine was ineffective.

2. Ok.

3. Again I never claimed that.

4. It is factual the covid mRNA vaccines doesn't work as claimed and you don't need to be an expert to discern that.

5. Am I required to entertain all of your moronic comments?

6. I'm not sure you have middle school level reasoning. We might need to get some experts to verify.

7. That's moving the goal posts. You were wrong.

The fact remains the vaccines do no work as claimed, have serious side effects, and have no place being authorized under EUA.
 
GBRforLife1 said:
1. I did not claim it showed the vaccine was ineffective.

2. Ok.

3. Again I never claimed that.

4. It is factual the covid mRNA vaccines doesn't work as claimed and you don't need to be an expert to discern that.

5. Am I required to entertain all of your moronic comments?

6. I'm not sure you have middle school level reasoning. We might need to get some experts to verify.

7. That's moving the goal posts. You were wrong.

The fact remains the vaccines do no work as claimed, have serious side effects, and have no place being authorized under EUA.
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The vaccine clearly, by many double blinded randomized control trials Decreases the severity of infection with COVID-19.
A Vaccine doesn’t have to decrease spread of the virus, of which there is evidence that it does this also to a certain extent, To be considered effective.

Why do you ignore all the top shelf Data published in top shelf journals and go with the Joe Bob on Twitter stuff?

The more personal attacks you engage in the more it convinces everyone that you don’t have the data on your side.
 
61bigredfan said:
The vaccine clearly, by many double blinded randomized control trials Decreases the severity of infection with COVID-19.
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You'd have to link them directly for us to dissect them, but many had fake data and fraudulent findings that were based off crap models. Or maybe you're talking about when they said it was 100% effective? Yeah that turned out great. Ok ok 90%. Oh wait not that either?

Is the top shelf data you're talking about where they tested the bivalent on 8 mice and then said everyone should get it as a booster?

I love how you've exposed yourself as a fraud. Keep it up.
 
61bigredfan said:
The vaccine clearly, by many double blinded randomized control trials Decreases the severity of infection with COVID-19.
A Vaccine doesn’t have to decrease spread of the virus, of which there is evidence that it does this also to a certain extent, To be considered effective.

Why do you ignore all the top shelf Data published in top shelf journals and go with the Joe Bob on Twitter stuff?

The more personal attacks you engage in the more it convinces everyone that you don’t have the data on your side.
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Maybe you should hire a software engineer to show you how to upload images to this site 🤣🤣
 
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