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What is the real story? Is the FBI withholding documents or is this some dog and pony show by the AG and DOJ? With the new administration (same as the prior), this whole thing seems contrived grandstanding and the reality is nothing will be released.

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What is the real story? Is the FBI withholding documents or is this some dog and pony show by the AG and DOJ? With the new administration (same as the prior), this whole thing seems contrived grandstanding and the reality is nothing will be released.

Thoughts?
Well they're missing. Why
 
if it does get released it will be because of 2.0 ...list has been around a while now, certainly could have been release in the prior 4 years

..i have very mixed feeling about releasing it....everyone is just going to assume if you're on that list you're a pedo and it is going to destroy marriages and careers...and i find it impossible to believe everyone who stepped foot on his plane is a chester...we know that isn't going to be the case, so what do you do? if you release the list, you're going to destroy lives, many of whom will only be guilty of taking a free plane ride with a guy they had no idea was a monster...
 
if it does get released it will be because of 2.0 ...list has been around a while now, certainly could have been release in the prior 4 years

..i have very mixed feeling about releasing it....everyone is just going to assume if you're on that list you're a pedo and it is going to destroy marriages and careers...and i find it impossible to believe everyone who stepped foot on his plane is a chester...we know that isn't going to be the case, so what do you do? if you release the list, you're going to destroy lives, many of whom will only be guilty of taking a free plane ride with a guy they had no idea was a monster...
This kind of thinking is exactly why these people are never held accountable. Always some excuse to hide this shit. Everyone is about just doing something and fixing it later if you made a mistake. Why would a list of pedophiles be any different?
 
This kind of thinking is exactly why these people are never held accountable. Always some excuse to hide this shit. Everyone is about just doing something and fixing it later if you made a mistake. Why would a list of pedophiles be any different?

Settle down francis...i'm all for executing pedo's and hope the guilty in this scenario are held accountable...releasing that list to the general public is a seperate issue from letting the guilty walk. Completely.
 
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This kind of thinking is exactly why these people are never held accountable. Always some excuse to hide this shit. Everyone is about just doing something and fixing it later if you made a mistake. Why would a list of pedophiles be any different?
I say channel Elon and “move fast, break things, ask questions later” but I suppose that doesn’t apply when the livelihoods of politicians, billionaires, and Silicon Valley types are at stake
 
Settle down francis...i'm all for executing pedo's and hope the guilty in this scenario are held accountable...releasing that list to the general public is a seperate issue from letting the guilty walk. Completely.
You are a lot more optimistic then me that these rich, connected people are treated the same as everyone else. I would be surprised if there aren't people walking around that are on that list that did horrific things.
 
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I say channel Elon and “move fast, break things, ask questions later” but I suppose that doesn’t apply when the livelihoods of politicians, billionaires, and Silicon Valley types are at stake
What has been broken? Why did you use quotation marks? What questions aren’t being asked?
 
What's even more maddening is that our tax dollars probably paid for all of this.

And, what happened on that island goes far beyond pedophilia IMHO. Release the list and hang every single one of them that partook in the carnage. Set an example. That is, if we are still a republic rather than a foreign controlled tax farm.
 
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What's even more maddening is that our tax dollars probably paid for all of this.

And, what happened on that island goes far beyond pedophilia IMHO. Release the list and hang every single one of them that partook in the carnage. Set an example. That is, if we are still a republic rather than a foreign controlled tax farm.
I do not agree with hanging. Yet, no matter what anyone escorted by Epstein to his "isle of ..." did while in paradise while being there in the first place has the evil odor of theft of American tax dollars. Rather than know every name I would like simply a number of America's elected officials that "attended festivities" along with EPA, FBI, JCOS, FDA, World organizations like NATO, WHO and the EU.
That and future transparency of the costs and "mission" of political travel at all levels of Government including State and local. I believe the trustworthy have either stayed the same or are now coming clean in front of the witness of America's Public. By the People for the People. All it takes is truth and verification by our government.
 
I say channel Elon and “move fast, break things, ask questions later” but I suppose that doesn’t apply when the livelihoods of politicians, billionaires, and Silicon Valley types are at stake
Meanwhile, the U.S. got a couple accused sex traffickers from Belgium, but they're popular on social media and wealthy so they couldn't have done anything wrong.

Rule of law is drifting away in this country.
 
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What's even more maddening is that our tax dollars probably paid for all of this.

And, what happened on that island goes far beyond pedophilia IMHO. Release the list and hang every single one of them that partook in the carnage. Set an example. That is, if we are still a republic rather than a foreign controlled tax farm.
Reading the docs now. It will take a while. Goes back to 1991. Some interesting names.

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PBI - TGB
Oct 11, 1993
Donald Trump
 
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I can't believe some people don't want this out to save marriages and images? What?

No. Not everyone is guilty, but get this out in the light. Get the pressure turned up and the lights shone on the ones that ARE guilty. And try to get a few rats to squirm and see how many other rats they can lead you to....if you have enough evidence to nail even a few of them, the message would be sent.
 
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What's even more maddening is that our tax dollars probably paid for all of this.

And, what happened on that island goes far beyond pedophilia IMHO. Release the list and hang every single one of them that partook in the carnage. Set an example. That is, if we are still a republic rather than a foreign controlled tax farm.
Oh I would so love if all of that happened. Throw politics out the window. Don't let the wealthy manipulate the people through their preferred media. Go after ALL of them. Not just a few peons.
 
Reading the docs now. It will take a while. Goes back to 1991. Some interesting names.

Flight Log
PBI - TGB
Oct 11, 1993
Donald Trump
Believe that was before Epstein was kicked out of trumps clubs and when Trump was still loved by the leftists in his wilder days.

Do want to see more of the information. Wonder what was still withheld/destroyed by our “intelligence agencies”
 
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Man I do not get some people....some of what i'm reading is akin to bombing an entire city to kill a few bad guys. I'd think it would be pretty easy to figure out who's guilty and who isn't. Interrogations, look at the pictures, we know they exist...video...cross reference to names on the list, charge em. Hang em....but the public doesn't need to know every detail of every criminal case.
 
Believe that was before Epstein was kicked out of trumps clubs and when Trump was still loved by the leftists in his wilder days.

Do want to see more of the information. Wonder what was still withheld/destroyed by our “intelligence agencies”
Yes, you are correct.

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Feb 9, 2002
MIA - HPN
Bill Clinton
4 Secret Service
2 Males, 1 Female
JE, GM, SK, AP
 
The usual suspects in the right wing influencer game spent years chumming this thing, but we have known that Trump and Clinton were on the plane, plus Bill Gates was on the island. Alan Dershowitz has fended off allegations of underage sex. But again this is stuff we’ve known for several years. Shit, I remember the Clinton stories from the Aughts. The Epstein files were always going to be underwhelming. If the people that got snookered are looking for someone to blame, I suggest finding a mirror.
 
Believe that was before Epstein was kicked out of trumps clubs and when Trump was still loved by the leftists in his wilder days.

Do want to see more of the information. Wonder what was still withheld/destroyed by our “intelligence agencies”
As someone who spent several years in the Northeast in the late 80s and early 90s, Trump was not revered by leftists as he was a racist who didn’t want to rent to Black people. He was frequently on the front page of the New York tabloids for his various escapades. He was generally thought of by liberals as a joke.
 
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What is the real story? Is the FBI withholding documents or is this some dog and pony show by the AG and DOJ? With the new administration (same as the prior), this whole thing seems contrived grandstanding and the reality is nothing will be released.

Thoughts?
The story is that it was a likely intelligence operation. Ran by whom is questionable. But it was likely the US and other countries. Imagine how much illegal stuff they let go.
 
Man I do not get some people....some of what i'm reading is akin to bombing an entire city to kill a few bad guys. I'd think it would be pretty easy to figure out who's guilty and who isn't. Interrogations, look at the pictures, we know they exist...video...cross reference to names on the list, charge em. Hang em....but the public doesn't need to know every detail of every criminal case.
This isn't every criminal case...this is a pedophile island with multiple former president's making visits, and the dude was killed in prison before trial....we deserve to know why/who.
 
As someone who spent several years in the Northeast in the late 80s and early 90s, Trump was not revered by leftists as he was a racist who didn’t want to rent to Black people. He was frequently on the front page of the New York tabloids for his various escapades. He was generally thought of by liberals as a joke.
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Wait, you lived in the Northeast for 4 years and read the tabloids? He was most definitely welcomed by the left before he ran. Based on your vast experience in the northeast quadrant of the country, when was he first okay by them?
 
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As someone who spent several years in the Northeast in the late 80s and early 90s, Trump was not revered by leftists as he was a racist who didn’t want to rent to Black people. He was frequently on the front page of the New York tabloids for his various escapades. He was generally thought of by liberals as a joke.
Your TDS is showing....
 
The story is that it was a likely intelligence operation. Ran by whom is questionable. But it was likely the US and other countries. Imagine how much illegal stuff they let go.
My theory is that Epstein put powerful people in compromised situations. Don’t go with the flow. They destroy your legacy as a pedophile. Many believe he worked for Mossad. And these tactics have been used for centuries to keep the prominent in line.

Read into what they do in Hollywood. Some bizarre stuff but notice how they all (actors) think alike and say the same stupid stuff. They’re compromised too. Music industry as well. Bieber being raped etc at the Diddy parties
 
As someone who spent several years in the Northeast in the late 80s and early 90s, Trump was not revered by leftists as he was a racist who didn’t want to rent to Black people. He was frequently on the front page of the New York tabloids for his various escapades. He was generally thought of by liberals as a joke.
Was that before or after people like Ali and the wife of Rev. Dr. King that showed him support?
 
The story is that it was a likely intelligence operation. Ran by whom is questionable. But it was likely the US and other countries. Imagine how much illegal stuff they let go.
The amount of foreign diplomats shown on those flight logs is interesting. Flights to Russia then China with Bill Clinton and his secret service entourage was an interesting. The inclusion od US politicians makes me believe it was more than just "play time" for those people. Oh and of course, Phil Collins and his previous wife were on at least one of the documents. Always need some entertainment.
 
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