Yeah, I think if you have a daughter it should/will/does change how you would see things. Which is totally normal and totally fair.
Thank you. Some people get married because the female gets pregnant prior to marriage and they do the right thing and get married. I've had grandparents tell me, "yeah, they made a mistake and she got pregnant." Then I look at the picture of that little person and ask them, "how can that beautiful little child be a mistake?" Yeah, the timing was wrong, but most mistakes you don't wind up with a beautiful child as a result. Just my opinion.
I do have a daughter and I was also a young man at one time. My wife didn't even let my daughter wear blush until she was a junior in high school. I just know how guys think. Women don't get it because we are different and think different.
Super, I think what makes this a civil discussion is the realization they will not change my mind, nor theirs. I respect all opposing opinions as they are entitled to voice their opinion.
I gotta be nuts for wading into this, but I feel sorry for some of you.
You aren't too far off but while the dude was making money he had someone at home taking care of his kids, providing him with a clean place, a supportive family, and likely healthy food. Dudes who end up making a lot of money need to put most of their time and effort into their careers and not picking kids up from daycare, making dinner, cleaning the house. Closing lucrative deals over years often involves the wife attending work functions, the kids not appearing to be psychopaths, and the house not only being nice but also kept up. Of course a maid does some of this but a single dude is almost never as successful as a family man, and a single dude with little kids finds it very hard to reach their potential. That reality should be quantified, not to 50% but maybe 5-12%...which in a lot of cases is a very big deal.
Thank you for feeling sorry for me. I am not married and could not be happier.
I think this is a super good response and I agree.
Well, the topic of the thread was divorce. I'm sure all of us who posted are not divorced either.
Phil Collins paid 48 million in his divorce!
Science is pretty clear that there are just different types of people and some people will stay married forever as long as the relationship isn't abusive. Others will cheat forever regardless of how sweet their partner is because of wiring...social pressure, religion can keep people married but doesn't change the behaviors. Sometimes trauma and struggle can bring people together, sometimes it tears people apart...distance and sacrifice can bring people together or tear people apart. Arranged marriages work as well as love based marriages because certain personalities will take pleasure in making it work, and certain personalities are always needing something new or better for whatever reason. Extremely rich, successful people are very likely to divorce because their personality drives them to waste time on wealth and attention...there are a million talented people out there that just work at a bank, play piano with their kids, paint for fun and don't care to be "known".
Just to be clear, you are saying that 50% of non-divorce marriages are unhappy? Is that what you think?
If you look at a list of the richest women in the world, a large percentage of them became wealthy through divorce.
Sounds like it’s genetic. Maybe when you’re older you would appreciate the companionship of a woman who also happens to be the mother of your kids. You’ve fully bought in to destruction of the family unit and the subsequent decline of our society.
The problem is that people aren’t just hoping to end their marriage. They think they’ll find someone sexier or more fun. Maybe they do but it makes the lives of their kids miserable. Been there and no my dad didn’t find somebody better. She came with a cross dressing drug addict adult son who moved in with them.
I think un-happy is a bad word, if I used that I did not mean it. I think I mean routined. As in in they are not happy or unhappy, they are just there. Not bad or good, not wrong or right, just there in a routine.
Oh man!
Yeah .. big government needs to get out of divorce.. marriage is a religious act. People should be able to split without losing their livelihoods
Oh my god. I never thought about it like that but (and don't get a big head) is brilliant.
We’re all about separation of church and state… except marriage & divorce
It is so true. Think about how many people don't get a divorce BECAUSE it is or can be a life ruiner. So sad to think of it like that.
But routine can be happy, and usually it is. Routines become routine for a reason.
Just to be clear, I do NOT feel sorry for Super. lol
Oh for sure routine can be happy. I agree with everything you said. Routine can also be boring and blah. It just depends on what the person/people want,
I think everybody has a different definition of what happy is.
The state has very little to do with divorce. Our courts were designed to try to protect the rights of both parties in a civil dispute thus negating the need for firearm duels. I understand that men almost always feel as though they get shafted and sometimes they do
Exactly, which is why it is so hard to explain or quantify.
