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Seems pretty easy: "There are some men that like to dress up like women. If it seems fun, you can do it, too. If it seems weird, you never have to do it. If someone tries to make you, call your parents." Done.
You didn’t finish the story. Parents put a stop to it, but then are arrested for being transphobic.
 
Crossdressers are weird
I agree. Free country, though, and they don't hurt anything besides a minor blow to my enjoyment of events. And I don't know why somone would turn on the olympics opening ceremony and expect everything included to align with their tastes.
 
I agree. Free country, though, and they don't hurt anything besides a minor blow to my enjoyment of events. And I don't know why somone would turn on the olympics opening ceremony and expect everything included to align with their tastes.
Same could be said about the westboro church
 
Same could be said about the westboro church
Yep. They suck, but they're still out there. Best way to deal with them is to ignore them, avoid them, and/or mock them, depending on what floats your boat.

If you're an American, evangelical conservative, an event put on in a western european capital for a global audience is probably going to include some stuff you find distasteful. Maybe just skip the ceremony and watch the sports? I've been sick for several days and thus have more time watching live during the day than in recent years. It's been a great distraction.
 
Got an example of a parent "putting a stop to it" in a sensible, adult, non-violent way and then being arrested for transphobia?
It’s only going to get worse .. quite a slippery slope we are on..



 
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Yep. They suck, but they're still out there. Best way to deal with them is to ignore them, avoid them, and/or mock them, depending on what floats your boat.

If you're an American, evangelical conservative, an event put on in a western european capital for a global audience is probably going to include some stuff you find distasteful. Maybe just skip the ceremony and watch the sports? I've been sick for several days and thus have more time watching live during the day than in recent years. It's been a great distraction.
so we can mock the crossdressers just like we can mock the westboros? Deal
 
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It’s only going to get worse .. quite a slippery slope we are on..



Those are all examples of parents who want to dictate their child's identity, not those who want to protect their kids from others dictating. No one has a right to do so, not even parents.
 
so we can mock the crossdressers just like we can mock the westboros? Deal
Of course! Mock away. Mockery is great. Complaining about how the performance was an "attack on Christians" due to a case of mistaken art identity just makes people seem oversensitive and whiny, though. Then they're exposed to mockery, themselves. :)
 
It's a shame the opening ceremonies had to take away from the athletes that have worked all their lives to get there. If I wanted to see a bunch of cross-dressing, Satan worshipping commie trannies with sacks hanging and one fat woman, I' d just go to a party at @scopeandtime house. I mean his mom's basement. Sick
How many times do I have to tell you neanderthals...we don't really have basements in Phoenix...I live in the extra bedroom, dummy!
 
Of course! Mock away. Mockery is great. Complaining about how the performance was an "attack on Christians" due to a case of mistaken art identity just makes people seem oversensitive and whiny, though. Then they're exposed to mockery, themselves. :)
I didn't say anything about an attack on Christians
 
I didn't say anything about an attack on Christians
Didn’t say you did. Referring to previous instances in the thread.

Wow. You’re all in on the cult. Well done and enjoy
lol, you have no idea what I believe beyond “People get to choose their own identities.” But tell me more about my cult, guy who believes in divine magic and supports a demagogue for president.
 
Didn’t say you did. Referring to previous instances in the thread.


lol, you have no idea what I believe beyond “People get to choose their own identities.” But tell me more about my cult, guy who believes in divine magic and supports a demagogue for president.
And said identities are wrong and not based in reality or basic biology. So if someone with Anorexia indentifies as fat.. no one has the right to correct them. They must agree to their identity and tell them to continue to starve themselves? Yep.. you’re definitely in a cult bro
 
And said identities are wrong and not based in reality or basic biology. So if someone with Anorexia indentifies as fat.. no one has the right to correct them. They must agree to their identity and tell them to continue to starve themselves? Yep.. you’re definitely in a cult bro
The obvious response is that if you don’t treat someone with anorexia, they can suffer lifelong health problems and/or die. Tell me about the similar disasters inherent in letting boys dress as women.
 
The obvious response is that if you don’t treat someone with anorexia, they can suffer lifelong health problems and/or die. Tell me about the similar disasters inherent in letting boys dress as women.
50% suicide rate. Chemical castration. Cutting off your pecker at 8 years old has life long consequences
 
The obvious response is that if you don’t treat someone with anorexia, they can suffer lifelong health problems and/or die. Tell me about the similar disasters inherent in letting boys dress as women.
Yep, and then it boils down to mental health problems, which a majority of this stems from. But when that child was born the doctor said “congratulations, it’s a boy.”
The parents do not have to acknowledge or accept that child’s right “to up and switch” gender identity/pronouns, etc… they just have to keep loving that child and if that’s not enough, try to get them the help they need.
 
Yeah you think 11 year olds should receive puberty blockers if they choose to. Cults gonna cult
I don’t think that, but why are you against it?

That’s your right man, or woman..whichever you prefer.

Man, thanks. This isn’t the burn you think it is.

50% suicide rate. Chemical castration. Cutting off your pecker at 8 years old has life long consequences
Why are you weirdos so focused on chopping off dicks? We’re talking about drag. The vast majority of them still have dicks.
 
Yep, and then it boils down to mental health problems, which a majority of this stems from. But when that child was born the doctor said “congratulations, it’s a boy.”
The parents do not have to acknowledge or accept that child’s right “to up and switch” gender identity/pronouns, etc… they just have to keep loving that child and if that’s not enough, try to get them the help they need.
The dude is so wrapped up in his cult. He’s ok with parents stopping outside sources … hey moron. Where do you think a kid learned about the trans cult? From others pushing it. A kid just didn’t wake up one day say hey I wanna be a potsexual
 
I don’t think that, but why are you against it?



Man, thanks. This isn’t the burn you think it is.


Why are you weirdos so focused on chopping off dicks? We’re talking about drag. The vast majority of them still have dicks.
So you would be against an 8 year old chopping off his pecker aka gender affirming surgery without parents consent?
 
I don’t think that, but why are you against it?



Man, thanks. This isn’t the burn you think it is.


Why are you weirdos so focused on chopping off dicks? We’re talking about drag. The vast majority of them still have dicks.
Why am I against an 11 year old being chemically castrated ? The fact that you had to ask that shows me how mentally unstable you are. I really hope you don’t have children
 
Yep, and then it boils down to mental health problems, which a majority of this stems from. But when that child was born the doctor said “congratulations, it’s a boy.”
The parents do not have to acknowledge or accept that child’s right “to up and switch” gender identity/pronouns, etc… they just have to keep loving that child and if that’s not enough, try to get them the help they need.
The help they need… to keep conforming to the parent’s ideal of who they’ll grow up to be. I want my kid to grow up and quarterback the Huskers to 4 straight nattys. But more than that I want them to grow up into a kind, successful person who treats the people around them well. I don’t spend any more time obsessing over their gender identity than I do their favorite sport.
 
The help they need… to keep conforming to the parent’s ideal of who they’ll grow up to be. I want my kid to grow up and quarterback the Huskers to 4 straight nattys. But more than that I want them to grow up into a kind, successful person who treats the people around them well. I don’t spend any more time obsessing over their gender identity than I do their favorite sport.
Is your kid mentally fvcked up?
 
So you would be against an 8 year old chopping off his pecker aka gender affirming surgery
I’m against such operations regardless of parental consent.

Why am I against an 11 year old being chemically castrated ? The fact that you had to ask that shows me how mentally unstable you are. I really hope you don’t have children
Referring to puberty blockers as chemical castration is pretty disingenuous. The whole point is to push the decision down the road until the kid is older and can make a more informed decision for themselves, in collaboration with their doctors/therapists/etc. Again, the parents’ preference means little to me. I’m just as against parents pushing their kids into blockers or operations as I am against them standing in the way of it or sending them to “conversion therapy.”
 
I’m against such operations regardless of parental consent.


Referring to puberty blockers as chemical castration is pretty disingenuous. The whole point is to push the decision down the road until the kid is older and can make a more informed decision for themselves, in collaboration with their doctors/therapists/etc. Again, the parents’ preference means little to me. I’m just as against parents pushing their kids into blockers or operations as I am against them standing in the way of it or sending them to “conversion therapy.”
so have kids "pause" puberty until they are 18 and can legally make a decision? Yeah, that should turn out well
 
so have kids "pause" puberty until they are 18 and can legally make a decision? Yeah, that should turn out well
It doesn’t have to be that binary. There’s room between “cut off dicks at 11” and “block puberty till 18, then decide.” I think we should let people who are trained to make decisions like that - you know, doctors and mental health specialists - on a case-by-case basis.

Just watched Ledecky win the 1500 free, btw. Go America!
 
FWI, the DSM and mental health professionals once diagnosed homosexuality as a mental illness. When it comes to the soft sciences I challenge all opinions.
100%. The social sciences are riddled with BS.
 
FWI, the DSM and mental health professionals once diagnosed homosexuality as a mental illness. When it comes to the soft sciences I challenge all opinions.
And you should. But even though doctors used to think diseases came from “bad air,” if I get sick I’m gonna ask my doctor what to do, and not my dad.
 
And you should. But even though doctors used to think diseases came from “bad air,” if I get sick I’m gonna ask my doctor what to do, and not my dad.
hopefully you have a good doctor, which is hard to know as well due to the cookie cutter process they are made by these days
 
hopefully you have a good doctor, which is hard to know as well due to the cookie cutter process they are made by these days
I hope so! At least I can always ask for multiple opinions. They’d have to be pretty bad for me to prefer my dad.
 
It doesn’t have to be that binary. There’s room between “cut off dicks at 11” and “block puberty till 18, then decide.” I think we should let people who are trained to make decisions like that - you know, doctors and mental health specialists - on a case-by-case basis.

Just watched Ledecky win the 1500 free, btw. Go America!
Just so I’m clear - you don’t think there is anything wrong with puberty blockers or that they can have lasting negative effects on a kid?
 
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