Some more positivity for the upcoming season. Hopefully this continues to get better and also helps the run game.
Some more positivity for the upcoming season. Hopefully this continues to get better and also helps the run game.
I think this is due to Benhardt getting a ton better. In 2022 it was coming from both sides. Benhardt actually got a lot better. To me the NU line could get a lot better with the same jump happening at the other tackle position. I'm skeptical, but I also thought BB was a lost cause and he picked his game up last year. He still can be a lot better, but it wasn't a wide open path to the QB as it had been for him before.apparently my lyin eye's were telling me a different story last year, cause it felt like the same ole to me.
2022 we had 340 passing attempts and were hurried on 35% of those.Some more positivity for the upcoming season. Hopefully this continues to get better and also helps the run game.
We also had a more competent passer on the team in 2022, which was dearly missed last season..2022 we had 340 passing attempts and were hurried on 35% of those.
2023 we had 261 attempts and were hurried on 25%.
10 percentage point improvement and nearly 30% improvement on the opportunity. The 54% decrease is a bit disingenuous. But still a very nice improvement - hopefully we see another jump.
Some of it was having a run threat at QB, but our line was definitely improved despite some of the message board experts’ opinions. They got better as the year went on IMO.apparently my lyin eye's were telling me a different story last year, cause it felt like the same ole to me.
We threw 30% less passes in ‘23 and most of those were 1 read.I think this is due to Benhardt getting a ton better. In 2022 it was coming from both sides. Benhardt actually got a lot better. To me the NU line could get a lot better with the same jump happening at the other tackle position. I'm skeptical, but I also thought BB was a lost cause and he picked his game up last year. He still can be a lot better, but it wasn't a wide open path to the QB as it had been for him before.
They weren’t.apparently my lyin eye's were telling me a different story last year, cause it felt like the same ole to me.
So you don't think Benhardt was better? I think he was much better and the real issue is on the other side.We threw 30% less passes in ‘23 and most of those were 1 read.
That is what it’s due to.
We allowed the worst sack/attempt ratio in all of P5, only Navy was worse in that category in the entire country
We were the worst pass pro team in all of P5 and ranked 132nd out of 133 FBS teams in sacks allowed per attempt.So you don't think Benhardt was better? I think he was much better and the real issue is on the other side.
Young tackles?Not convinced at all. We have not had a good offensive line in years. Last year we had a workable line. But not really a good line. There were injuries for sure but that only exposed our lack of depth. Is our depth better this year? I hope so. I think it is. But that depth has yet to be proven. Hopefully, some of the young tackles can emerge and Corcoran can get what he has deserved for years: a permanent seat on the bench. And the Corcoran apologists can go pound sand right next to the Haarberg cheerleaders. This team will never again achieve elite status until players like that are third string. I cannot think of any Osborne era offense where Corcoran would have sniffed the two deep. But the rest of our line gives me some hope. They do seem to have more talent and more depth this year. Now go out and prove it by kicking some ass!!
I think this is going to happen. Our OL is the number 1 concern and similar to WR last year, I think if we have more injuries or the play is shit for TC or one of the guards, I think they will try one of the youngsters.Read many times how last years line class was the best we've had in a really long time... Can none of those guys be expected to contribute this year and make a meaningful impact? I'd think Brix at the very least?
Gottula, Brix, Seagren, Pyle, Knaak - There are options.Young tackles?
Do we even have 2?
Gottula is one. No clue who the other is or who is the heir apparent at LT. Doubt they’re on today’s roster.
I read in another thread that Brix has never had to pass protect in his entire life. (Our current, 2nd-worst-in-the-country group looks that way most times, so not sure how big a deal that is.)Gottula, Brix, Seagren
I read in another thread that Brix has never had to pass protect in his entire life.
What??
.....yikes
Brix has massive potential and I think hell reach it but pass pro is still pretty new to him as his highschool didnt throw much. I’m not sure hell be ready this season absent getting some action in four games to keep his RS.
Would actually bet we see the Gorman kid before Brix this season
And with DR ability to process his reads so quickly it will also help .Some of it was having a run threat at QB, but our line was definitely improved despite some of the message board experts’ opinions. They got better as the year went on IMO.
What??
.....yikes
True. And I guess there just were not many tackles in the transfer portal either...Young tackles?
Do we even have 2?
Gottula is one. No clue who the other is or who is the heir apparent at LT. Doubt they’re on today’s roster.
Redshirt Freshman that has been brought up that he and Gottula were working while TC was out.I read in another thread that Brix has never had to pass protect in his entire life. (Our current, 2nd-worst-in-the-country group looks that way most times, so not sure how big a deal that is.)
Seagren?
In a perfect world we finally have a QB and some receivers that might be able to make defenses pay for coming after us. That would help the OL more than anything. If you're a DC, not having to worry about the passing game is a beautiful thing.We'll find out how good our O Line is soon enough. Opposing D's will be coming after our inexperienced QB's fast & furious, forcing them to make quick decisions.
Sacks taken is a very misleading stat......according to research ( I'll provide the entire article if you want to look at it). Quarterbacks control their own sack rate and they are likely responsible for the quality of sacks they take too. We know this because QBs who change teams tend to have their sack quality follow them. If the offensive line or poor coaching was responsible for sack quality, it wouldn't follow the QBs to new teams.We threw 30% less passes in ‘23 and most of those were 1 read.
That is what it’s due to.
We allowed the worst sack/attempt ratio in all of P5, only Navy was worse in that category in the entire country
expect our sack rate to decrease this year with a QB that has a very quick release...is not likely to try and run when pressured and I expect to make better decisions.
perhaps, but in our case sack rate stayed consistently piss poor with this OL group through 3 OCs and 6 QBsSacks taken is a very misleading stat......according to research ( I'll provide the entire article if you want to look at it). Quarterbacks control their own sack rate and they are likely responsible for the quality of sacks they take too. We know this because QBs who change teams tend to have their sack quality follow them. If the offensive line or poor coaching was responsible for sack quality, it wouldn't follow the QBs to new teams.
Quality of sacks would mean that a sack taken for a safety would be worse than a sack taken on 3rd and 18 that is outside of field goal range.
I expect our sack rate to decrease this year with a QB that has a very quick release...is not likely to try and run when pressured and I expect to make better decisions.
Having an accurate passer should help but what I'm also hoping for is the JEJ and Mazzccua start moving people inside and we can effectively run the ball. I'm not planning on the 95 Huskers but I think that could be a pretty decent interior with Scott. Both the guards at least seem like they want to bulldoze people. Keeping DR out of obvious passing downs will help with the teeing off.In a perfect world we finally have a QB and some receivers that might be able to make defenses pay for coming after us. That would help the OL more than anything. If you're a DC, not having to worry about the passing game is a beautiful thing.
Hood 6'8 350Young tackles?
Do we even have 2?
Gottula is one. No clue who the other is or who is the heir apparent at LT. Doubt they’re on today’s roster.
Gotta say I felt like there was improvement.apparently my lyin eye's were telling me a different story last year, cause it felt like the same ole to me.
Not making excuses for TC but if he would have been a player for TO he would have redshirted and wouldn’t have seen a meaningful play until his junior season, that how depleted Riley and frost left the program we had to play him, coach Rhule has looked at the portal for lineman but who wants to come to Nebraska until we start winning gamesNot convinced at all. We have not had a good offensive line in years. Last year we had a workable line. But not really a good line. There were injuries for sure but that only exposed our lack of depth. Is our depth better this year? I hope so. I think it is. But that depth has yet to be proven. Hopefully, some of the young tackles can emerge and Corcoran can get what he has deserved for years: a permanent seat on the bench. And the Corcoran apologists can go pound sand right next to the Haarberg cheerleaders. This team will never again achieve elite status until players like that are third string. I cannot think of any Osborne era offense where Corcoran would have sniffed the two deep. But the rest of our line gives me some hope. They do seem to have more talent and more depth this year. Now go out and prove it by kicking some ass!!
Our perspective can lie to our eyes. When we watch the game in real time as fans, we react emotionally. We can gain a different perspective when we re-watch taking the time to adequately evaluate what’s happening. Statistics without context can be deceiving. Did the QB hold the ball too long? Did the D bring 6 and we were only blocking with 5? Did the RB miss a block? Did the TE miss a block? Did the WR run the correct route? Did the QB panic and step right into a blocked defender instead of stepping up into the pocket? Yes, the OL does miss blocks, they do step the wrong way, they act a step slow. Context matters.Your lying eyes do not deceive you, IMO.
In 2022 we gave up 33 sacks on those 340 passing attempts, losing 247 yards (almost 1 in every 10 attempts; 93rd in sacks given up per game)
In 2023 we gave up 30 sacks on those 261 passing attempts, losing 181 yards -- Nearly as many sacks on 80 fewer passing attempts (1 in every 8.7 attempts; dropped to 96th in sacks given up per game)
Since sacks don't count as hurries (I assume), we were hurried or sacked on 152 of 340 passing attempts in 2022 (45% of attempts).
In 2023 we were hurried or sacked on 95 of 261 attempts (37%).
And, that was against what was supposedly an easier schedule in 2023 than the 2022 schedule. I don't think I'd really call that better. I'd say the line sucked a little bit less. Color me skeptical of any improvement until certain players have matriculated out of the program. I hold out hope that younger guys are going to step it up and push the veterans out, and that coaches will allow that to happen. Because until that happens, Dylan better keep his head on a swivel or he and the receivers better excel in the 5-15 yard passing game.
Where is the talk of Knaak and Hood? Two guys with D1 experience??Gottula, Brix, Seagren, Pyle, Knaak - There are options.