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If 3 of these games played out differently, I wouldnt feel the way I do. Southern Miss we could close the door, Illinois -clock management and Langsdorf refusing to go with what was working (Ozigbo), Wisconsin - with us needing a first down we run it up the gut 3 straight times. To top it off on 3 and 7 we run a play that usually gets you 3 or 4 yards. (Im good with running it to burn their timeouts, but be a little more creative than running it up the gut 3 straight times with basically 11 guys in the box). This is why I feel the way I do. I was realistic after BYU that it was a fluke, and after Miami...I was slightly upset with the first half, but we played well the second half. Also we are dead last in pass D...that has me feeling like Banker needs to kick rocks.

Banker might very well be the weak link. But because of our player issues you can't make that call at this time.
 
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Based on what? Historical stats show otherwise. Real coach? We have Mr. Rogers.

BYU and Miami would of boat raced us. Southern Miss would of beaten us by at least two touchdowns. We have zero linebackers and safeties to make the complicated calls to run Bo's defense. We would have multiple long touchdowns because his system is golden... REMEMBER???????? HE WOULDN'T ADAPT TO HIS PLAYERS LIMITATIONS! The blowouts would of been mind blowing!
 
Banker might very well be the weak link. But because of our player issues you can't make that call at this time.

Halfway agree with you there. We have some depth issues due to various things, but not enough to put us last in pass D. That is a huge drop off from total D from last year (and that includes 408)
 
BYU and Miami would of boat raced us. Southern Miss would of beaten us by at least two touchdowns. We have zero linebackers and safeties to make the complicated calls to run Bo's defense. We would have multiple long touchdowns because his system is golden... REMEMBER???????? HE WOULDN'T ADAPT TO HIS PLAYERS LIMITATIONS! The blowouts would of been mind blowing!

Disagree. BYU is a passing team...Bos defense was good against the pass. The teams with stout run games is where he struggled. Miami I disagree - again pass team we would have been fine...remember they jumped up quick because their pass game. Southern Miss...another pass team no way in hell anyone not named Callahan loses to them. Illinois, couldnt stop us if we were running...our read offense would torch them. And then Wiscy without Clement, but still a run heavy offense would be a toss up. So I say 5-1 with a loss to either Wiscy or Miami, but that is all hypothetical and no way to prove either way so we will just agree to disagree.
 
Oh my god people!
Imagine running a 2 gap with our defensive line and linebacker and safeties making checks?????
 
Disagree. BYU is a passing team...Bos defense was good against the pass. The teams with stout run games is where he struggled. Miami I disagree - again pass team we would have been fine...remember they jumped up quick because their pass game. Southern Miss...another pass team no way in hell anyone not named Callahan loses to them. Illinois, couldnt stop us if we were running...our read offense would torch them. And then Wiscy without Clement, but still a run heavy offense would be a toss up. So I say 5-1 with a loss to either Wiscy or Miami, but that is all hypothetical and no way to prove either way so we will just agree to disagree.

WE HAVE NO DEFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!
OUR LINEBACKERS ARE HURT!!!!!
OUR SAFETIES CAN'T COVER!!!!!!!

HOW IN THE HELL OUR WE GONNA RUN BO'S DEFENSE???????????
 
not into moral victories, but one thing I noticed is the Huskers haven't got blown out yet.
I hope me saying that doesn't mean minn will.
but there seems to be a attitude that they will keep trying..even if they fall asleep in a quarter here or there.
maybe it's because bo isn't going bolistic on them?
or parody?
or they just play to the level of compitition?
or we haven't played a top ten team yet?
I'm not sure o_O
 
WE HAVE NO DEFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!
OUR LINEBACKERS ARE HURT!!!!!
OUR SAFETIES CAN'T COVER!!!!!!!

HOW IN THE HELL OUR WE GONNA RUN BO'S DEFENSE???????????

Funny because Davie and Cockrell and Gerry and Kalu all played under Pelini last year and didnt struggle in the pass...Linebackers? Who needs em( sarcastic)? Pelinis D rarely had all 3 on the field...which is part of why we struggled against the run...but we need fewer to run his D. D line we lost Gregory thats a big one, but other than that our D would be similar to where it was last year. Yea at this point with injuries anyone would struggle...but they werent injured at the beginning of the year.
 
Funny because Davie and Cockrell and Gerry and Kalu all played under Pelini last year and didnt struggle in the pass...Linebackers? Who needs em( sarcastic)? Pelinis D rarely had all 3 on the field...which is part of why we struggled against the run...but we need fewer to run his D. D line we lost Gregory thats a big one, but other than that our D would be similar to where it was last year. Yea at this point with injuries anyone would struggle...but they werent injured at the beginning of the year.

Yes!
Pelini's vaunted Wisconsin 15 defense. Where players were so confused with assignments that being out of position was standard operating procedure.
 
Yes!
Pelini's vaunted Wisconsin 15 defense. Where players were so confused with assignments that being out of position was standard operating procedure.

Funny you focus one ONE game! Even with that game Pelinis defense was 52nd nationally in total defense...Banker? Oh he's at 90th right now...but hey we are close in all our losses...you realize other than Wiscy last year we were close in all our losses? 27-22 loss to a salty MSU team. 45-42 to USC 28-24 to Minny (that one pissed me off)...so to focus on the one blowout is not looking at the whole picture. Taking both coaches weakness Bo was 73rd against the run...Riley and Banker are 127th against the pass...thats going to lead to blowouts if it doesnt change.
 
Funny you focus one ONE game! Even with that game Pelinis defense was 52nd nationally in total defense...Banker? Oh he's at 90th right now...but hey we are close in all our losses...you realize other than Wiscy last year we were close in all our losses? 27-22 loss to a salty MSU team. 45-42 to USC 28-24 to Minny (that one pissed me off)...so to focus on the one blowout is not looking at the whole picture. Taking both coaches weakness Bo was 73rd against the run...Riley and Banker are 127th against the pass...thats going to lead to blowouts if it doesnt change.

Where do you think a defense ranked 52nd will be when it's decimated by injury and other problems??? And my Wisconsin 15 reference was to all the big plays given up against everyone running or PASSING. Tackling in space was a huge problem cause of out of position players.
 
I remember seeing an incredible stat the last two years under Pelini... Didn't we lead the nation in the number of 20 yards plus plays given up??? It was something crazy.
 
Where do you think a defense ranked 52nd will be when it's decimated by injury and other problems??? And my Wisconsin 15 reference was to all the big plays given up against everyone running or PASSING. Tackling in space was a huge problem cause of out of position players.

We werent decimated with injuries at the beginning of the year and we were just as terrible as we are now! Passing? You are funny we were 35th in ypg passing d and 6th in opponent passer rating...so where was this terrible pass d? Or did you just mean Wisconsin? When they threw the ball 11 times for 46 yards? If you are going to argue our rush d was suspect tou have that, but not our pass d last year and our rush d was not near as suspect as our pass d this year...scoring d? Right now we are 120th in 4th quarter defense...last year we were 8th...but Banker makes more adjustments than that other bafoon.
 
Not sure about the last two years but sounds about right - the problem is that is worse this year we are giving up more yds/play under Banker

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/opponent-yards-per-play

If you are truly not a Pelini hack then please understand it's not a Banker problem. It's everything we've been discussing the last twenty posts. Banker is keeping everything together with duct tape and chicken wire. You understand that don't you???
 
Plus he's dealing with a bunch of impressionable brainwashing players.

That's one of our biggest problems right now.
 
We've had the lead with one minute left in all our losses. And the defensive players refuse to make a play and win the game. And our offense has yet to convert on our last critical series to seal the win. We have some serious issues going on not counting the bad decisions by our coaches.
 
The only thing to do now is point it out and get it into the open. Then we'll see if people start making some plays to win some games.
 
If i was Riley i would of gathered all the team together after the Wisconsin loss and straight up asked...
Do you want to win games for Nebraska???
Or
Do you want to lose some games for Bo???
If you want to win then start making some plays. If not then pack up your locker and move on.
 
Where do you think a defense ranked 52nd will be when it's decimated by injury and other problems??? And my Wisconsin 15 reference was to all the big plays given up against everyone running or PASSING. Tackling in space was a huge problem cause of out of position players.
I could not care any less where our defense (or offense, for that matter) ranks. Believe it or not, Pelini's teams (and *gasp* every other team in the country) has injuries. That's football. Or perhaps our players are getting injured easier under Riley.

All I know is Nebraska is 2-4 right now, and may not win 5 games this year. There is absolutely no excuse for that with all of the advantages afforded to Nebraska. At least, that's what everyone was saying when people wondered why Nebraska was hiring Riley, and why his performance at every other coaching gig prior to coming to Nebraska was "different."

And even with a rash of injuries, a 4/5 win season should never be acceptable at Nebraska. Ever.
 
Kaaya threw for almost 360 yds and had three TD's against us last year. Granted he had two ints but it's not like our pass d was stellar against them last year. A lot of teams didn't need to throw on us because they could run the ball at will. I think if Pelini was coaching this depleted team right now we might have a worse record with some blowouts.
 
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If i was Riley i would of gathered all the team together after the Wisconsin loss and straight up asked...
Do you want to win games for Nebraska???
Or
Do you want to lose some games for Bo???
If you want to win then start making some plays. If not then pack up your locker and move on.

I dont think the locker room is as extreme as people make it out. I mean Alex Lewis who was the name everyone was throwing around, gave an inspiring speech to the players about how they cant keep losing like that and they need to bust their hump to win...there is always a gew factions after a coach gets fired. Its the new coaches job to get them to buy in. I also dont think its the players fault for running 3 times straight into the teeth of the defense instead of running something a little more inspired on 3rd and 7 against Wiscy ( i.e. jet sweep, read option, something that has a higher chance of getting 7 yards). Clock management has been terrible with this staff as well as late game play calls. That is on the staff.
 
I could not care any less where our defense (or offense, for that matter) ranks. Believe it or not, Pelini's teams (and *gasp* every other team in the country) has injuries. That's football. Or perhaps our players are getting injured easier under Riley.

All I know is Nebraska is 2-4 right now, and may not win 5 games this year. There is absolutely no excuse for that with all of the advantages afforded to Nebraska. At least, that's what everyone was saying when people wondered why Nebraska was hiring Riley, and why his performance at every other coaching gig prior to coming to Nebraska was "different."

And even with a rash of injuries, a 4/5 win season should never be acceptable at Nebraska. Ever.
We are also starting more walk ons than any other team in the country. I agree there have been some bone headed coaching decisions but I think they wouldn't be so glaring if our depth wasn't so pathetic.
 
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We are also starting more walk ons than any other team in the country. I agree there have been some bone headed coaching decisions but I think they wouldn't be so glaring if our depth wasn't so pathetic.
I understand everyone is buying in 100% to HuskerTimOmaha's walk-on thread, but I think that's only a portion of our problem.

Riley has by far the most talent he's EVER HAD while coaching in the cfb ranks. Granted, Pelini wasn't the best recruiter, but he still had leaps-and-bounds better classes than Riley had at Oregon State --- yes, I understand why, but nevertheless, Riley has the most talent he's EVER HAD. And it's not even close.

If I recall correctly, Pelini averaged recruiting classes of #24-25. I know it's early, but Nebraska is currently sitting at #35. And I don't expect that number to climb much as our record gets worse. There tends to be an inverse relationship between recruiting rankings and losing %.

Yet, here we sit with a 2-4 record --- soon to be much worse once we hit the better teams in conference. I honestly can not even chalk any remaining game up to a W.
 
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Yet, here we sit with a 2-4 record --- soon to be much worse once we hit the better teams in conference. I honestly can not even chalk any remaining game up to a W.

Time to put down the alcohol...

Our remaining schedule.

Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Michigan St
Rutgers
Iowa

Other than Michigan St, who on that schedule are the "better" teams? Minnesota & Northwestern, our defense is built for the ground game... Purdue and Rutgers... Please. Iowa? The Iowa that only beat Wisky because Wisky's running back fumbled at the goal line, and other major win is against Pitt... by 3 at home?

We have a NICE run set up ahead of us. If you Botards can put down the hate drink for like 2 seconds, you might like what's to come...
 
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Time to put down the alcohol...

Our remaining schedule.

Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Michigan St
Rutgers
Iowa

Other than Michigan St, who on that schedule are the "better" teams? Minnesota & Northwestern, our defense is built for the ground game... Purdue and Rutgers... Please. Iowa? The Iowa that only beat Wisky because Wisky's running back fumbled at the goal line, and other major win is against Pitt... by 3 at home?

We have a NICE run set up ahead of us. If you Botards can put down the hate drink for like 2 seconds, you might like what's to come...

If we can start making plays to finish the game we'll add to our win total.
 
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I could not care any less where our defense (or offense, for that matter) ranks. Believe it or not, Pelini's teams (and *gasp* every other team in the country) has injuries. That's football. Or perhaps our players are getting injured easier under Riley.

All I know is Nebraska is 2-4 right now, and may not win 5 games this year. There is absolutely no excuse for that with all of the advantages afforded to Nebraska. At least, that's what everyone was saying when people wondered why Nebraska was hiring Riley, and why his performance at every other coaching gig prior to coming to Nebraska was "different."

And even with a rash of injuries, a 4/5 win season should never be acceptable at Nebraska. Ever.

Great...another new poster.
 
Funny you focus one ONE game! Even with that game Pelinis defense was 52nd nationally in total defense...Banker? Oh he's at 90th right now...but hey we are close in all our losses...you realize other than Wiscy last year we were close in all our losses? 27-22 loss to a salty MSU team. 45-42 to USC 28-24 to Minny (that one pissed me off)...so to focus on the one blowout is not looking at the whole picture. Taking both coaches weakness Bo was 73rd against the run...Riley and Banker are 127th against the pass...thats going to lead to blowouts if it doesnt change.

I am with you on this one. So far the Riley apologist having been talking up how we haven't been blown out yet. (Lose ok, just don't get blown-out mentality. Brother!) We all should feel very lucky we don't have Ohio State and Michigan on our schedule. Urban and Harbaugh would run up 50-60 points given the chance.
 
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Time to put down the alcohol...

Our remaining schedule.

Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Michigan St
Rutgers
Iowa

Other than Michigan St, who on that schedule are the "better" teams? Minnesota & Northwestern, our defense is built for the ground game... Purdue and Rutgers... Please. Iowa? The Iowa that only beat Wisky because Wisky's running back fumbled at the goal line, and other major win is against Pitt... by 3 at home?

We have a NICE run set up ahead of us. If you Botards can put down the hate drink for like 2 seconds, you might like what's to come...

Was Illinois the better team?
 
NEVER is a pretty harsh word. I understand why you might say that and it might also be a while, but I'd never say never...

GBR
I didn't mean it to come across harshly. Just saying that I don't think we see that kind of dominance in college football today, especially at Lincoln with all of the recruiting difficulties (that Bo brainwashed us with).
 
Was Illinois the better team?

They were for 1 day. Same as Iowa St. was better than Bo's Huskers for 1 day, or the same as Iowa St. was better than Tom's Huskers for 1 day in 1992. Upsets happen. Could even happen again. But I doubt it.
 
They were for 1 day. Same as Iowa St. was better than Bo's Huskers for 1 day, or the same as Iowa St. was better than Tom's Huskers for 1 day in 1992. Upsets happen. Could even happen again. But I doubt it.

That is what I am saying. First I think Minny and NW are way more talented and better coached. Second it doesnt have to be the better team that wins...sometimes its the better coached. I think the rest of the schedule is a shit show. There isnt one for sure W left and there isnt one for sure L left either. Now if you ask me, I think we only win 2 more games, maybe 3 with Minny...i think Rutgers is going to be tough now that they have caroo back...Minny and NW defenses will stifle us.
 
That is what I am saying. First I think Minny and NW are way more talented and better coached. Second it doesnt have to be the better team that wins...sometimes its the better coached. I think the rest of the schedule is a shit show. There isnt one for sure W left and there isnt one for sure L left either. Now if you ask me, I think we only win 2 more games, maybe 3 with Minny...i think Rutgers is going to be tough now that they have caroo back...Minny and NW defenses will stifle us.

Will you honestly re-read what you just wrote. Minn and NW are absolutely NOT more talented than us. Even with Bozo recruiting for us, we still absolutely bury both those schools in the recruiting rankings. So just stop that. Coaching, maybe... But again, both are 70/30 run/pass schools, and NU excels in stopping the run. I think we have the edge on these two teams.

You think we only have 2 wins left... I think we have 4 minimum and maybe 5. This is called being the difference between being a defeatist and an optimist. And in the realm of sports, which is meant to be fun, I'm going optimist.
 
Will you honestly re-read what you just wrote. Minn and NW are absolutely NOT more talented than us. Even with Bozo recruiting for us, we still absolutely bury both those schools in the recruiting rankings. So just stop that. Coaching, maybe... But again, both are 70/30 run/pass schools, and NU excels in stopping the run. I think we have the edge on these two teams.

You think we only have 2 wins left... I think we have 4 minimum and maybe 5. This is called being the difference between being a defeatist and an optimist. And in the realm of sports, which is meant to be fun, I'm going optimist.

Raw talent no they dont, but being coached through the scheme yes they do. This year they are nore talented. I appreciate your optimism, but I prefer the term realist...not defeatist...as for your reasoning we beat them, i understand it, however, Wisconsin had zero offense and was a 70/30 run offense and stave only threw for 300 once in his career...until Saturday...the coaches will adjust their offenses to us...
 
Raw talent no they dont, but being coached through the scheme yes they do. This year they are nore talented. I appreciate your optimism, but I prefer the term realist...not defeatist...as for your reasoning we beat them, i understand it, however, Wisconsin had zero offense and was a 70/30 run offense and stave only threw for 300 once in his career...until Saturday...the coaches will adjust their offenses to us...
I will agree that they will adjust... I am hoping we have slowly improved over the last few games... Seems like the yards are there but our defense does seem to be playing a bit better. What we really need is for our offense to put some distance between us and Minnesota so that our defense doesn't have to face a final drive...
 
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OK, here is some concrete evidence:

In recent past, too often when we got behind early, we folded like a tent and had our a$$ handed to us in an embarrassing fashion. The current team fights til the end.

This just isn't true and not fair to the players.
 
This just isn't true and not fair to the players.
There were many embarrassing losses in recent memory. At times, it felt like the team did quit... at other times, they fought back. This is a broad brush to paint with. I think, if we are being objective, it's somewhere in between.
 
This just isn't true and not fair to the players.

I know, right off the top of my head I think of MSU last year...yea they really folded there. Or how about the cardiac cornhuskers of 201...2(i think it was that year)...people only remember the terrible games
 
I will agree that they will adjust... I am hoping we have slowly improved over the last few games... Seems like the yards are there but our defense does seem to be playing a bit better. What we really need is for our offense to put some distance between us and Minnesota so that our defense doesn't have to face a final drive...

I do agree I saw SPURTS of decent defense saturday. Marcus Newby was a stud...my question is...his big thing per the coaches was his coberage was suspect and thats why he wasnt starting right off the bat...what does that say about talent evaluation when he was our best coverage guy last week (either that or he improved a lot in a short time).

If our O can get up early, we will be okay ( it scares me though because their d is great against the pass and okay against the run...which plays into our weaknesses)
 
I do agree I saw SPURTS of decent defense saturday. Marcus Newby was a stud...my question is...his big thing per the coaches was his coberage was suspect and thats why he wasnt starting right off the bat...what does that say about talent evaluation when he was our best coverage guy last week (either that or he improved a lot in a short time).

If our O can get up early, we will be okay ( it scares me though because their d is great against the pass and okay against the run...which plays into our weaknesses)
Hard to argue this... Sure seems like they could take it to us, especially if we don't move the ball. If we have trouble offensively, we lose a low scoring affair, in my opinion.
 
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