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NSIAP: 2 QB's on campus this weekend (update post # 55)

What about the quarterback from Michigan that decomitted from UCF? Any word on whether we have offered him?
For whatever reason he's apparently very mad at Nebraska. Not sure why but he posted a tweet that bashed Nebraska after the new staff was announced. Maybe because the staff prioritized Wilson and Martinez before him - who knows.
 
We want both , one to come in and start and one to learn and play in the future
 
I like Terry Wilson's athleticism. I like the fact that he is 2 years older and arguably 2 years greater of a known commodity. But jilt me once, shame on you. Jilt me twice.....

If I am POB or TG, I am salivating at the SF Offense and what Frost was able to do with McKenzie Milton, who was a 5-11, 160-pound Dual-Threat QB when he came out of HS. I look at MIlton and say that I am at least as good as him with at least as good of skills.
Jilt? He really just felt the system would not be right for him with Riley.
 
might need to get used to two QB recruits most years.
Good. I would like us to take 3 this year. A juco, a highly rated freshman, and a talented under the radar guy would be perfect. We need good qb play here, which we haven't had consistently since Crouch.

With dual threat guys, it should be easier to take more because you can move them to a new position if they don't work out and sell it as an audition for the position they could be playing in the NFL.

QB is the most important position and we need to take as many as we can get to maximize our chances of having great qb play that can lead us to championships.
 
Good. I would like us to take 3 this year. A juco, a highly rated freshman, and a talented under the radar guy would be perfect. We need good qb play here, which we haven't had consistently since Crouch.

With dual threat guys, it should be easier to take more because you can move them to a new position if they don't work out and sell it as an audition for the position they could be playing in the NFL.

QB is the most important position and we need to take as many as we can get to maximize our chances of having great qb play that can lead us to championships.
why would a juco want to come and play behind POB and Gebbia and possibly Lee?
the current QBs are very good.
 
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why would a juco want to come and play behind POB and Gebbia and possibly Lee?
the current QBs are very good.

How do we know that they’re good? We’ve never seen one of them run a spread option attack..
 
why would a juco want to come and play behind POB and Gebbia and possibly Lee?
the current QBs are very good.

Maybe. But consider this: POB, Gebbia, and Lee have played zero snaps for SF.

Oftentimes very good players are not afraid of competition; in fact, if you're looking to come to a place where you might be able to take the reins on day 1, I can't think of a better setup than the one we have right now. It's entirely possible that guy is on the roster right now. It's entirely possible that he's not.

Speaking of which.......... when was the last TRUE quarterback competition here? Was it Crouch / Newcombe?
 
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why would a juco want to come and play behind POB and Gebbia and possibly Lee?
the current QBs are very good.
If Terry Wilson signs, the current QBs are going to have to compete with a guy who is certified to run the offense Frost wants to run. If they can best him, then one of them will start.
Frost is exercising some risk management.
 
Maybe. But consider this: POB, Gebbia, and Lee have played zero snaps for SF.

Oftentimes very good players are not afraid of competition; in fact, if you're looking to come to a place where you might be able to take the reins on day 1, I can't think of a better setup than the one we have right now. It's entirely possible that guy is on the roster right now. It's entirely possible that he's not.

Speaking of which.......... when was the last TRUE quarterback competition here? Was it Crouch / Newcombe?

That goes for any of them. But one thing we do know is Gebbia is always studying, I remember hearing he was always in there studying, working and hard at it. He is already proving he is going to work hard and determined to do good. No idea why some of you guys are stuck on hating on these 3. Frost doesn’t run the triple option and nothing but option runs all game long. We all see coaches taylor there systems around good QBs that may lack in one area but great in another. I think we all need to set back and see how this all pans out and stop giving up on our players. We did horrible with that this season. Let’s improve a bit. New area, fans need to adjust as well.
 
A dual threat QB is very susceptible to injury. We need quality #2 and #3 guys who can take up the slack. Remember when Taylor Martinez was blowing and going? Then he hurt a wheel and we were toast the rest of the season...

This x1000!

Look at what happened to FSU this year when they started the season in the top 3, only to have their QB, Francois, go down to injury and then go on to win only 4 games before the final 2 weeks of the season.

Frost can't take the chance that one of the QBs currently on the roster of a team that ran a pro-style system might be able to run his offense. Why would we want him to take that chance? Seriously.

Get at least 2 QBs added to the roster that can run your system. Then if the returning QBs happen to be able to run the system better, you at least have capable backups that can run the system how it needs to be ran to be successful. Not having the QB you need ties a hand behind your back as a playcaller.

I did not watch very much UCF, except for the AAC championship game. Didn't their QB run fairly often?

Googled it... he ran 100 times in 2016 and 93 times in 2017. We need a QB that can run and that can handle 100 carries over a season!

Competition breeds excellence! Get more QBs.
 
I think we definetly need a quarterback on the field. We should probably look to sign some sometime.
 
This x1000!

I did not watch very much UCF, except for the AAC championship game. Didn't their QB run fairly often?

Googled it... he ran 100 times in 2016 and 93 times in 2017. We need a QB that can run and that can handle 100 carries over a season!

Competition breeds excellence! Get more QBs.

93 carries in 13 games is about 7 carries per game - not a lot - and remember a number of these are QB scrambles and not called QB runs - so you are looking at about 4-5 QB runs per game. I, too would like a mobile QB but I think someone like POB or Gebbia can run this offense just fine.
 
Slooooooooow your roll, boys. Let me throw a few names your way:

Johnny Stanton
Zach Darlington
Cody Green
Harrison Beck
Beau Davis
Curt Dukes
Bobby Newcombe
Frankie London

At one time or another, I remember being told that each was, and I quote, "the real deal" by the casual fan.

In fact, isn't this the same board that penciled Tanner Lee into the 1st round this coming April because Archie Manning likes his throwing motion or whatever?

I'm excited that NU is in on highly-rated, dual-threat guys. It's the right thing for the staff to be doing. It is absolutely not a guarantee that any of them starts a single game, let alone goes on to great things.

As I have said, the smartest thing for current NU QBs to do is work hard and make any new kid prove it. Plenty of bigtime QB recruits have gone on to do absolutely nothing in college. 4 years of experience taking snaps against D1 athletes matters. If it didn't, you'd start a bunch of freshmen every year.
Wait...someone once told you Beau Davis was the real deal and you listened?
 
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Sounds like the chances of getting Martinez are good.

Also, makes me wonder if that means SF is comfortable with POB and Gebbia, and at this point they appear to be comfortable with him and the offense? I speculated SF might be going after both Martinez and Wilson hard. I'd also guess that Lee is going to grad transfer.
 
POB was a beast running the ball in HS. The film doesn’t show TG running as much. Is he a talented runner? Lee is not but don’t know about TG.
 
It tells me Martinez is the priority of the two QB's, especially considering Wilson hasn't been offered yet.

Interesting. With Martinez missing his senior season with a shoulder injury, I figured we might try to sign 2 QBs this year. With Wilson knowing the offense and having 3 years left, it seems like he would be a good get, to add depth at the position.
 
Interesting. With Martinez missing his senior season with a shoulder injury, I figured we might try to sign 2 QBs this year. With Wilson knowing the offense and having 3 years left, it seems like he would be a good get, to add depth at the position.

I agree, just reading between the lines.

* NU gets Wilson to cancel OV to Kentucky this weekend.
* NU schedules Wilson to a OV this weekend.
* NU (Frost?) goes in-home and Wilson's visit to Nebraska is pushed back a weekend. (He's now going to Kentucky)
* Martinez visiting this weekend hasn't changed.

To top it off, Wilson doesn't have an offer from Nebraska.
 
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Also, makes me wonder if that means SF is comfortable with POB and Gebbia, and at this point they appear to be comfortable with him and the offense? I speculated SF might be going after both Martinez and Wilson hard. I'd also guess that Lee is going to grad transfer.
Frost didn't recruit POB and TG and thus is not as familiar with their capabilities. He would be foolish not to try to bring in someone that he knows can run his system. Frost is familiar with Wilson's capabilities from his time at Oregon. If Wilson comes and either POB or TG can best him for a starting position, then I'd say things look pretty good at QB.
Wilson is the #2 dual threat JUCO QB.
https://www.landof10.com/nebraska/nebraska-recruiting-terry-wilson-scott-frost-official-visit
 
I agree, just reading between the lines.

* NU gets Wilson to cancel OV to Kentucky this weekend.
* NU schedules Wilson to a OV this weekend.
* NU (Frost?) goes in-home and Wilson's visit to Nebraska is pushed back a weekend. (He's now going to Kentucky)
* Martinez visiting this weekend hasn't changed.

To top it off, Wilson doesn't have an offer from Nebraska.
Dubs, what are you reading between the lines? Wilson has no offer, but Martinez is still coming. Is it just an issue of not wanting both kids on campus the same weekend? Or has Frost possibly cooled on Wilson?
 
Frost didn't recruit POB and TG and thus is not as familiar with their capabilities. He would be foolish not to try to bring in someone that he knows can run his system. Frost is familiar with Wilson's capabilities from his time at Oregon. If Wilson comes and either POB or TG can best him for a starting position, then I'd say things look pretty good at QB.
Wilson is the #2 dual threat JUCO QB.
https://www.landof10.com/nebraska/nebraska-recruiting-terry-wilson-scott-frost-official-visit

I know he didn't recruit them. Frost wasn't the coach here when they were recruited. I'm pointing out that it is a little surprising that Wilson would be put off a week by the staff. Seems to be a bit of slow playing going on, unless there are other reasons for the one week delay.
 
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Dubs, what are you reading between the lines? Wilson has no offer, but Martinez is still coming. Is it just an issue of not wanting both kids on campus the same weekend? Or has Frost possibly cooled on Wilson?

Martinez is the priority is how I read it.
 
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For those that forgot, Terry Wilson was in the same recruiting class as POB.

If TW didn't get playing time at Oregon, it makes you wonder, but I think SF had left for UCF before TW got there.

At the time, I wanted Wilson more than POB. But 2 and a half years later, I'm thinking POB could probably run SF's offense very effectively. I think he's a little bit slower than what one would like, but he's a big durable kid who is not afraid to go get the yards in front of him. Durability is important as was mentioned above.

Way back then, POB absolutely lit things up with incredible numbers running a spread, greater than 70% completion and no int's, I forget, but it was like a video game type stats.

Does anyone see where I am going with this? Anyway, I'm not going to rule out POB, this could be lighting in a bottle for him.
 
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I know he didn't recruit them. Frost wasn't the coach here when they were recruited. I'm pointing out that it is a little surprising that Wilson would be put off a week by the staff. Seems to be a bit of slow playing going on, unless there are other reasons for the one week delay.
Wilson got beat out by a walk on at Oregon. He transferred because he didn't like his spot on the depth chart. Frost is fully aware of what POB's and Gebbia's abilities are by now. I would also guess he's had a chance to get some sense of Bunch's abilities by now as well. You don't offer Wilson unless you're sure you need him.
 
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Wilson got beat out by a walk on at Oregon. He transferred because he didn't like his spot on the depth chart. Frost is fully aware of what POB's and Gebbia's abilities are by now. I would also guess he's had a chance to get some sense of Bunch's abilities by now as well. You don't offer Wilson unless you're sure you need him.

No way, you mean the new head coach took some time since Sunday to research the status of the most important position on the field on his current roster, when time is ticking to the early signing day???? Amazing. ;)

Personally I think Frost wants both, and there is some strategy being utilized here.
 
Frost is fully aware of what POB's and Gebbia's abilities are by now.
Both are quality QBs, but Frost can't be fully aware of their ability to run his offense. I would say the Martinez kid is priority one and Wilson would be a nice insurance policy. POB/Gebbia are possibly workable solutions.
 
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Both are quality QBs, but Frost can't be fully aware of their ability to run his offense. I would say the Martinez kid is priority one and Wilson would be a nice insurance policy. POB/Gebbia are possibly workable solutions.
I would bet that Frost has seen the spring game and practice video of the "most important position players" on the team. He would know by that if they can run his offense or not and I think the answer is yes. Heck he can look at their high school video if he has any doubt. That gives him just as much of an idea as Martinez's video. They'll have the whole spring to learn the offense and that's a huge advantage.
 
I would bet that Frost has seen the spring game and practice video of the "most important position players" on the team. He would know by that if they can run his offense or not and I think the answer is yes. Heck he can look at their high school video if he has any doubt. That gives him just as much of an idea as Martinez's video. They'll have the whole spring to learn the offense and that's a huge advantage.
Well lets just say Lee decides to stay and does not transfer, if Frost signs two more QBs that is 5 scholarship QBs. Not a big deal if you are set at all the other positions, but right now he may only want to take one and get more depth at other spots.
 
How good of an athlete is Terry Wilson? Maybe if things don't work out at QB they can move him to safety. I know we had guys like that in the 90's.

Also hearing that A-Magic is all but locked up to NU.
 
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How good of an athlete is Terry Wilson? Maybe if things don't work out at QB they can move him to safety. I know we had guys like that in the 90's.

Also hearing that A-Magic is all but locked up to NU.
prediction: if Wilson signs with NU he won't start next year. one of the returning QBs will be the starter next year.
 
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