I could wait forever and not want Frost as the head coach until he gets a D1 gig and shows his worth.
Now would be a great time to unite behind our current coaching staff
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I could wait forever and not want Frost as the head coach until he gets a D1 gig and shows his worth.
Tom, with all due respect, what you are saying is why can't we all just believe what you believe? You are blaming coaches, and they deserve plenty of blame. At the same time, there are those who are questioning the talent (12 of 14 of our two deep on the front seven have been injured and missed numerous games so far), the attitude (Lewis has done some questionable things after back to back games), reports are coming out of a divide in the locker room due to some shady things a former coach is doing... And yet, the players can not be blamed on any way.
It isn't wrong to be critical of the coaches. They have made mistakes and been underwhelming. But why are the players off limits?
The reason I believe there is such a heavy defense of the coaches is because this is only game 5 of a season already derailed by injuries, division, poor coaching decisions at times... But the staunchest defenders are preaching patience, where many are already calling this a huge failure.
In most dysfunctional relationships (in this case, the different fans), the blame is on both parties in some way or another. That's what's going on here too. Please don't act like you are right and everybody else is wrong. Very rarely is that the case in any relationship.
Who is doing this? I have seen both players and coaches being criticized. I have done both. Nobody is getting a pass. However, the constant and unending drum beat by a number of posters is about the staff; and the reasons for most of the posts are clear. It is like being subject to a room full of teenagers; full of themselves, largely clueless, and bitter because their homie got dissed. Don't act like this isn't the case. You have your own agenda too.
You are clueless. I will pay money to not have to be subject to it anymore until February. Name the price and the mod. Please.
People having extra tickets they can't get rid of has been going for several years. It is not a Riley thing.
Yeah, I suppose your right. It takes more intelligence to attack the messenger than to discuss the point they are making.
I agree with this. Like many I was very upset after the Illinois game. But after some time to cool down and really think about what MR and co are having to deal with, the outcome of that game isn't as surprising. If the staff can put the players in better positions things should improve dramatically. Either way the program needs our support more than it has in awhile.
If you have been on the board the last few days the drumbeat has been about the players. There has been all kinds of innuendo about players dividing the team. Once in a while a name comes up...most of the time not. Tommy has been berated by many since last Saturday. Newby has been talked about as needing to see the bench. Lewis has been castigated...the list goes on. Why not say, "Let's support the players...all the players...let's go!"?
But doesn't it go both ways? Absolutely we should be supporting the players… Shouldn't we be supporting the coaches as well? The players have made mistakes. The coaches have made mistakes. We should be supporting the entire team.
Ok... I know in other threads you have been talking about the coaches deserving criticism, but not the players... Unless I misunderstood you, which is entirely possible. That's where I thought you were going with this.
In other threads I praised Riley for his handling of Lewis, I said I was pleasantly surprised with our OC, I said that Cav has been doing a good job with the offensive line...I have said very, very little negative about our coaches in the last few weeks with the exception of bumbling the clock. As I said at first, why not just say support the team? This whole week has been focused upon unnamed players dividing the team. That is not support.
Would $500 do it tough guy? I've got to think it would, that'll cover a couple months of rent for you, or buy a couple new video games.
I will give them 4 hours tomorrow. It is up to them on whether they keep me beyond those 4 hours
I'm not emotional at all. I could care less about bo, you and your band of misfits keep bringing up Bo and the nine wins myth. Again for you and your posse. He was Not fired for lack of wins. It was the culture of his program and his attitude. If he Could have found another job he would have left in an instant. He never had loyalty to Nebraska and yet you guys keep defending him. He's gone, I could care less if his name is brought up again. He created a shitty culture and it will take time to fix it. Does that excuse the bad coaching moves no,,, do the coaches have a bad hand right now....absolutely. No depth, injuries, we have not played a game close to full strength. Bitching and moaning because bo isn't here or the AD didn't hire who you wanted won't do any good. It's done! Yes I coached high school football for years and the worst part of the job is constant second guessing from people who think they know something because they watch a little football. You guys don't know jack shit and neither do I , we aren't living it day in and day out like they are. You might as well find something new to do because you clearly want him to fail
Nice spin. Maybe you missed the part about Riley's supporters needing to understand those who have doubts about him and staff? I wasn't in a very positive mood last Saturday afternoon, to be sure. Our new staff has it's own warts. The larger point I wanted to make was: it's at best pointless, and at worst detrimental to call for a coach's head after five games. And yes, my OP did reference the apparent division in the locker room, without naming individuals. One simply needs to follow the right Twitter accounts to know this is real. I don't support ripping players, just like you. I do believe that the best way to move forward and address all the issues with the program at this time is to support the coaching staff. Many posters indicate they cannot, or will not do so. To what end does that help anything?
Expectations are now low. Great opportunity for MR and the staff to go on a run. The vast majority of fans want to get behind this coaching staff. But there needs to be a spark that gets the party started. It won't come today, but winning today could set up a possible statement win later in the season.
I'm a long time (i.e., old) fan who remembers watching the Game of the Century. I've long said that all NU fans really want is total domination of every team, on every play, of every game, of every season. Is that so much to ask?Cool
I'll stop posting till Feb for 500 bucks........just sayin'......... I can be pretty annoying too....
I agree with you. We are in for a few years LOOOOOOONG years as long as Riley is the coach. I am all for supporting the players, too many people bitch about Tommy, but our record is not because some knucklehead in Youngstown is pulling strings, injuries haven't helped, but they did not effect bad clock management, lack of talent didn't get us beat in Illinois, a bad game plan did. Some of you have written that we should not worry about our record and that just accept its a rebuilding year. That's so nice you want to give Mike a pass. This isn't anything new for Riley so next year are you going to making more excuses for him and then do it all over again the following year? With Mike you excuse makers are going to get a lot of practice.
We are all day to day.
Treat people like you would like to be treated.
Give the benefit of the doubt.
GO BIG RED
Treat people like you would like to be treated.
Give the benefit of the doubt.
GO BIG RED
The great thing about being a naysayer, is that if things go right, you can feel some form of responsibility thinking that all your griping got the coaching staff to turn things around. Even if you're not that shallow to claim credit, you still get the benefit of enjoying the good times. If things continue to go bad, you've got insurance because you claimed bad things were coming.
I'd almost rather people fall in a camp and stick with it. If Riley and crew turn out great, for all of you who already want him fired, you can't reap the benefits. You already gave up on him.
I'd almost rather people fall in a camp and stick with it. If Riley and crew turn out great, for all of you who already want him fired, you can't reap the benefits. You already gave up on him.
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Cry me a river. You are nothing more than a lying troll. And now you whine about namecalling. Are you 6? Like I said, stop the act. Grow a backbone, everyone here knows exactly what you are, and the type of person you are. How sad.
Riley is not Nebraska. If Nebraska wins so do the fans of Nebraska whether like Riley or not.
The fans have helped create the culture they rail against Bo Pelini about as well.
The hypocrisy of this board makes it exciting.
What do you mean by this? Not saying you're wrong, just missing the connection. The fans didn't make Bo into the person he is, so I'm not sure what you mean. Most agree that it wasn't that he didn't win enough, it was the terrible losses combined with his personality. Can you clarify this?
Nebraska was in position to win both the BYU and Illinois games. Winners win those games. We didn't.
I was being generous. We didn't snatch defeat from the mouth of victory in that game.
