Not saying he should go but...

[timnsun]

I really do not care if "post like" mine irk you. Facts are facts. Stats are stats.

Regarding Oline talent, whose responsibility is that? Yours? Mine? No, we don't make millions per year with the sole -SOLE- responsibility of making the team better.

You and your buds can kick back, relax, and pretend you somehow have a say, or that our opinions (that's what they are [and I even included brackets for the slow-learned]) matter. But I have bad news for you: your opinions, theories, etc., don't matter to those in charge. Ultimately, it's up to Riley and staff. Not you, not me, not anyone on this board.

Playing the blame game is for losers. And all I see on this board anymore is blame and excuse-making for shitshows.

And by the way, some more to add to this... you don't get to dictate the manner in which this coaching staff goes about improving this squad... They chose not to get bandaids through Jucos... It may bite them in the butt. But the plan they have chosen, whether you like it or not, is to build depth over the long haul. It is their responsibility to choose the manner in which they will improve the team.

Their SOLE responsibility. Deal with it.

 

[huskerfan1414]

No, what you posted above was not unrealistic. Having said that, I don't recall ever seeing you post what your expectations were beforehand, leaving me and others to guess, although I could be wrong. Either way, if I read into your posts stuff you didn't intend, my apologies.

Well it should go without saying beforehand to not have those things to happen. Tehy are basic expectations.
You are correct in saying there are depth issues that riley had to deal with and fix. You are right in saying injuries are bad for teams. You are right in saying pelini left some issues here when he left.
But inferior coaching leads to those unacceptbale things i mentioned above. Completely unacceptable.. It does not mean riley cantx fix it, or that he should be fired. You say that if this keeps happening another two years he will be gone. If this does continue to happen i hope you are right. But i hope it gets much better becsuse we cant survive riley not succeeding.
However, all of the excuses have me worried that if things dont change we will be stuck with another pelini situation for too long, sans the pant pissing and screaming.
Good day to you sir,and happy new year!

 

[timnsun]

Well it should go without saying beforehand to not have those things to happen. Tehy are basic expectations.
You are correct in saying there are depth issues that riley had to deal with and fix. You are right in saying injuries are bad for teams. You are right in saying pelini left some issues here when he left.
But inferior coaching leads to those unacceptbale things i mentioned above. Completely unacceptable.. It does not mean riley cantx fix it, or that he should be fired. You say that if this keeps happening another two years he will be gone. If this does continue to happen i hope you are right. But i hope it gets much better becsuse we cant survive riley not succeeding.
However, all of the excuses have me worried that if things dont change we will be stuck with another pelini situation for too long, sans the pant pissing and screaming.
Good day to you sir,and happy new year!

The last thing we need is another Pelini situation, and if it comes to that, I hope the AD (be it Eichorst or someone else) recognizes it and takes action long before 7 years are up. Happy new year to you as well!

 

[Snickerdoodle70]

What you call playing the blame game I call giving time. To each his own. I won't convince you otherwise, and you won't convince me otherwise.

Like I said, next year will be the year, in my opinion, these coaches will be judged more accurately for what they put on the field.

And by the way, I've got bad news for you too. Your opinions, theories, etc., don't matter to those in charge. Ultimately, it's up to Riley and staff (ultimately has a future ring to it, as in, not now, but ultimately, they will be judged). Not you, not me, not anyone on this board.

So stop saying with certainty that these coaches are .500 coaches and will always be .500 coaches until they get their players in. You don't know that they will remain .500 coaches for life anymore than I know they will turn it around. None of us has that information, and to suggest otherwise is plain stupid. All I am saying is they deserve time to show us, and 2 years (where improvement can be seen if one is objective... and also work needs to be done if one is objective) is not enough time. Next year we will see a team filled with players Riley recruited. He will be judged by all (or at least most) at that time.

Temperance does not = "giving coaches time."

And for you to expect Riley to finally reach an epiphany, when some are questioning whether he'll retire, is based on anything but reality. Sorry, man.

 

[Snickerdoodle70]

And by the way, some more to add to this... you don't get to dictate the manner in which this coaching staff goes about improving this squad... They chose not to get bandaids through Jucos... It may bite them in the butt. But the plan they have chosen, whether you like it or not, is to build depth over the long haul. It is their responsibility to choose the manner in which they will improve the team.

Their SOLE responsibility. Deal with it.

WTF exactly did you just post? Sounds like you're already making excuses for us losing a bunch next year.

Also, where is the supposed "depth" they're building? Is it in the players who won't play well because of Pelini? Or is it in the players we're recruiting that probably won't sign? Do we construct them with 3-D printers?

 

[ctscts]

WTF exactly did you just post? Sounds like you're already making excuses for us losing a bunch next year.

Also, where is the supposed "depth" they're building? Is it in the players who won't play well because of Pelini? Or is it in the players we're recruiting that probably won't sign? Do we construct them with 3-D printers?

Why are you so angry? You take this all so personal. It is really odd.

You know you can come to much better conclusions when you don't cloud judgement with emotion. You talk a lot about being objective and facts. Then follow up with 62% of your statements based strictly on emotional opinions.

Breath man [or woman], breath. It will all be ok.

 

[timnsun]

Temperance does not = "giving coaches time."

And for you to expect Riley to finally reach an epiphany, when some are questioning whether he'll retire, is based on anything but reality. Sorry, man.

You're not talking temperance... to do that means you would have to be objective, which you certainly are not.

I would love nothing more than for Riley to "get it" with his players so that you wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

 

[timnsun]

WTF exactly did you just post? Sounds like you're already making excuses for us losing a bunch next year.

Also, where is the supposed "depth" they're building? Is it in the players who won't play well because of Pelini? Or is it in the players we're recruiting that probably won't sign? Do we construct them with 3-D printers?

All I did was quote your words in your previous post back to you, but from my perspective. Laughable that it made you explode.

Now, my turn... Are you stupid that you have ignored my words again and again saying next year he will be judged?

 

[jawbreakingsafetyplay]

Snicker doodle is more than likely a Bo-bot from HPH. It is clear he doesn't like Riley and doesn't believe the guy can change or get it done. He believed that the day that the hire was announced and as such he has a selective bias for only negative information regarding Riley. It confirms his belief and in his mind strengthens his belief and emboldens him to act in this manner.

The secret is that he doesn't want to give Riley any benefit of the doubt. He doesn't believe in the guy, he can't see any positive in him as the head coach. Believe me, I understand that and almost empathize with that. The biggest thing fans struggle with is where does responsibility lie. Sure, this coaching staff has been here for two full seasons. They have coached the team in practice and through two seasons of games. They didnt recruit over half of this current roster. In college football, there isn't a free agency system to go fill holes quickly. Just like any organization where the leadership changes, there is ownership by the new regime, but the previous regime is responsible for the mistakes of the past that the current crew is working on. Hell, I have seen some two year remediation jobs in professional life that resemble what Riley and company have undertaken. It isn't pretty.