NIL = Ridiculous

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[BTF69]

I'm not jealous of what's going on. I don't blame the kids a bit. I blame the adults in the room. Money ruins everything if you let it do so. Right now, what is happening in college sports, whether it be NIL or the portal is unsustainable.

This idea that people should try to get as much as they can regardless of the impact on others is sad and wrong. Things change and change is good in a lot of cases. But when everyone with any bit of intelligence could see where that change was going to lead, it's becomes gross negligence to do so. That's where the phrase "Fvck around and find out," comes in handy. There has been a lot of that in this country as of late.

Why did the NCAA and many coaches fight this for so long? Do you believe that is was absolute greed on their part? Or could it possibly be that they knew the impact this would have on amature sports?

I find the "conspiracy think" that has infiltrated all aspects of American society, to be exhausting and honestly embarrassing. The NCAA has an obligation to govern and protect collegiate athletics. It is not perfect, no large entity filled with bureaucracy is. But the idea that it has purposefully "screwed kids out of what they deserve" is shallow ignorance.

There is room for compromise and a happy medium with regards to NIL and the Portal. What we have now is nothing more than greed run amok. Again it isn't sustainable and I blame all entities involved for the mess that we are in.

What is the bad part of it? It seems like the only "bad part" is fans being upset.

 

[BTF69]

Why do you think my YoutubeTv subscription is going up $10? It's because it's going directly to entitled athletes who already make more than enough playing a game.

Okay now THAT is a good reason!

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

We need more money to become elite again.

 

[oldjar07]

We need more money to become elite again.

Our NIL game is actually fairly strong. It's the main reason why we're able to attract some of the top portal players to at least visit.

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

Our NIL game is actually fairly strong. It's the main reason why we're able to attract some of the top portal players to at least visit.

It ain't as strong as the top schools.

I said elite not good.

 

[oldjar07]

It ain't as strong as the top schools.

I said elite not good.

With what we're spending on NIL, we should be a playoff team next year or damn near it. Rhule is getting a ton of resources he should feel very grateful for. Anything less than 8 wins is a complete failure and Rhule will be gone.

 

[cavalot]

What is the bad part of it? It seems like the only "bad part" is fans being upset.

You don't think that kids who haven't proven shit at the collegiate level getting paid hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of dollars as a problem? You don't think that kids selling out to the highest bidder and leaving their teammates left out to dry is a problem? You don't see a problem with coaches, agents, boosters etc.... poaching players from other teams? You don't see fans getting stuck with every growing exorbitant costs because of it as a problem?

Not to mention what it's teaching today's college age players... Many of whom are natural leaders and represent some of the best that America has to offer.... That greed, fame, money, prestige, etc.... outweigh loyalty, caring for others, being true to yourself and your team, being trustworthy, being responsible, working hard to achieve success with your teammates, persistence, patience, etc...etc...etc.... .

Again i'm not saying that players don't deserve some compensation for their efforts on the field of play, but the shit that is going down right now is disgusting and gluttonous. Very sad IMHO.

 

[cavalot]

Trite conclusions like "there is room for compromise and a happy medium" really don't mean anything. What is the specific solution? Before you respond, just know that there is no way for the NCAA and/or institutions to unilaterally impose rules limiting athlete pay or movement.

Yet!

There will be a point when common sense and realistic compensations for deserved efforts will win the day. Again it's not sustainable.

 

[BTF69]

You don't think that kids who haven't proven shit at the collegiate level getting paid hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of dollars as a problem? You don't think that kids selling out to the highest bidder and leaving their teammates left out to dry is a problem? You don't see a problem with coaches, agents, boosters etc.... poaching players from other teams? You don't see fans getting stuck with every growing exorbitant costs because of it as a problem?

Not to mention what it's teaching today's college age players... Many of whom are natural leaders and represent some of the best that America has to offer.... That greed, fame, money, prestige, etc.... outweigh loyalty, caring for others, being true to yourself and your team, being trustworthy, being responsible, working hard to achieve success with your teammates, persistence, patience, etc...etc...etc.... .

Again i'm not saying that players don't deserve some compensation for their efforts on the field of play, but the shit that is going down right now is disgusting and gluttonous. Very sad IMHO.

Okay, let me try to answer these.

You don't think that kids who haven't proven shit at the collegiate level getting paid hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of dollars as a problem? No, why do they have to "prove it" at the college level, they don't have to "Prove it" at the NFL level" to make money in the NFL.

You don't think that kids selling out to the highest bidder and leaving their teammates left out to dry is a problem? No, Because they are leaving to get a better chance, they hope. Just like you are I would at any job. Unless you are saying careers are less important?

You don't see a problem with coaches, agents, boosters etc.... poaching players from other teams? This has happened since the start of organized sports. I guess it is annoying.

You don't see fans getting stuck with every growing exorbitant costs because of it as a problem? Sure, but I don't pay for anything. I don't buy tickets, I get them for free, I don't buy jerseys or stuff like that.

Not to mention what it's teaching today's college age players... Many of whom are natural leaders and represent some of the best that America has to offer.... That greed, fame, money, prestige, etc.... outweigh loyalty, caring for others, being true to yourself and your team, being trustworthy, being responsible, working hard to achieve success with your teammates, persistence, patience, etc...etc...etc.... .

- This one is odd. Greed is not bad. Fame is not bad. Money is not bad. Prestige is not bad.

Trust me, these players work hard, 99% of them are responsible and trustworthy. Signing with a team and leaving after the season doesn't make them bad people.

 

[mgbreis]

Yet!

There will be a point when common sense and realistic compensations for deserved efforts will win the day. Again it's not sustainable.

So a market correction? Sure, I can see that happening.

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

I have no idea if that is correct or not for this individual situation BUT the price/compensation now is whatever the free market is willing to pay. Boosters with money to burn drive up those NIL prices.

I'm not sure anyone is anti-free-market.
I think colleges spent 150+ years cultivating amateur sports (yes cheating occurred, but the amateur part was still there).
Almost overnight we jettisoned 150 yrs of tradition because ... reasons.
OT: but the number of common sense ideas that have been jettisoned over the last 25 years has completely changed our society into something that makes the future look bleak.