We can all pray there is action to Make NU Football Great again.
New NU Holiday - Foley Contract Expiration Day
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Patiently waiting for the news.
MNUSTGA (Make NU Special Teams Great Again)
This is New Year's Eve. My gut says no announcement until the new year...
Happy Foley-vus.
It’s the day where we air all our Foley grievances. I’ll start…
Our ability to fair-catch inside our own 5 yard line.
It’s the day where we air all our Foley grievances. I’ll start…
Our ability to fair-catch inside our own 5 yard line.
Nebraska's special teams problem is bigger than one person. A new coach in charge would be great. Different long snapper- sounds good. But to be THIS bad, it's a systemic issue. Rhule has to change how he practices special teams, how often, what part of practice, how much time is taken, going live... everything has to be looked at.
I got alot problems with you people, now, you're gonna hear about.
Disagree (I think). Good ST coordinator will fix it if Rhule lets him (not sure what involvement he had before). Of course that possibly means changing processes in practice, but as the CEO, you lean very heavily (or should) on your coordinators, so I put it 95% on the coordinator. The coordinator needs to be requesting from the HC the when, where, how much, and HC needs to make it happen, if not completely unreasonable.
Agree, but the ST Coordinator is paid a pretty penny to make sure development is happening. The fact of the matter is no one should be getting 500K for having the worst group in D1.
We used to practice special teams 3 times per practice. Right after stretching, in the middle and at the end when dead ass tired. Did the same thing with freethrows in bb
We have learned a lot of unpleasant lessons about NU’s parade of unsuccessful head coaches post-Frank and one of them is their stubborn refusal to ditch close buddies who aren’t cutting it. Will Ruhle be the exception? I would guess the answer is no especially since the old limit on numbers of coaches no longer exists. Foley seems to be Ruhle’s closest buddy and is at an age where other opportunities are probably limited.
I think the best outcome we can hope for is another warm body in the Special Teams coaching room but not a firing or resignation.
I think the best outcome we can hope for is another warm body in the Special Teams coaching room but not a firing or resignation.
I think we're on the same page here. You could bring in anybody you wish but the commitment and importance has to be there. The special teams play is so bad across the board that I can't blame it all on a bad coordinator. And I'm a Rhule supporter. No more blocked kicks. No more bad snaps. Start actually blocking on punt returns and getting 10 yards a return. We need one or two kick return TDs a year.
On the buddy hires . . . . B. Callahan would've been back in the NFL by now, but could've stayed on at NU a couple more years had he ditched Cosgrove midseason. The more time passes, the more I think Callahan's firing took some thought. Overall, the 2007 season was trash, but they blew the doors off KState (Josh Freeman) at home, which was glorious, and played really well against Texas in Austin at the end of the season.
Very true. And there's some weird shit going on there too. For instance, what was the deal with Garcia-Castaneda? All he did was fair catch. He hardly played any WR after being one of our best targets two years prior. Was he hurt or not able to go full speed?
I like the first part of what you are saying.. Rhule has already been exposed as basically running a clown show, but can you get him to fix special teams? I doubt it. It's like that old business matrix, where you can only have a combination of 2 of the 3 things that you want at any one time.
Sure the CEO should be leaning on the coordinator to do the job. But the CEO also sees the product on the field, and should have seen that a change needed to be made sooner.
I believe we have three coaches with contracts expiring Raiola, Barthel, and Foley.
I think there are announcements on the contracts extended and then nothing on the ones they let expire, until they hire someone new.
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I would say he is already the exception replacing Satt with Dana and McGuire with Shorts. After that what would make you question if he will replace unproductive coaches?
As I said, I think Foley is his closest coaching buddy who has been with him at all four head coaching gigs. And did he fire the other two guys? McGuire is a kid who had daddy as an option. Satterfield has had a lot of other jobs including recent OC job at South Carolina. He may or may not leave, but unlike Foley I would think he could pretty easily get another coordinator job.
He replaced them both, which is what we want to happen with Foley. I don’t care if Foley is still around doing whatever, I just want a new ST Coach.
Yep and I think that’s what he was saying when he make the comment Total overhaul on special teams. That’s not just replacing the coach in charge.
When you have probably the worst special teams in the country, and that's your job, you deserve to be fired. The missed kick vs IL, special teams disasters with OSU & IN, and the muffed punt vs IA cost us at least 2 games. Nothing personal but foley sucks at his job.
If Callahan had been hired last year instead of post-Frank, the “standards for keeping the job” would obviously have been much different. Callahan was expected to improve on Frank’s 58-19 record and come close to TO’s unbelievable record. Even if he had ditched Cosgrove that was a tough order. Kind of like the string of successors to John Wooden at UCLA who couldn’t come close to Wooden’s 10 NCAA championships in 12 years.
Not sure what the disagreement is. I said I thought the best we can hope for is an addition to the coaching staff and it sounds like you agree with that. Foley seems to be the in-state recruiter and may be good at that.
Since we got a Seinfeld reference already, I’ll stay with it. If Rhule wants to go costanza with Foley and make him the assistant to the traveling secretary, I couldn’t care less, but he won’t be in a (real) decision-making position. Not after this year, and certainly not after Rhule promised a complete overhaul. Even if he actually thought it was best, he has to know the blowback would be tremendous.
I guess the disagreement is your statement that Rhule won’t ditch his Buddy that isn’t cutting it. I think he’s already done that and will do it again. I don’t care if he is around in another role or not.
The bowl game started with fielding a KO that was headed out of bounds. I think it was Jr who returned it to the 28, so not a huge deal, but more lost hidden yards there. Over a season seven yards here 15 yards there add up.
🙄Jeezus, hope you have better posts in 2025.
I don't doubt that. We need to STRESS special teams if we truly wanna be good at it. That comes from Rhule. If this year didn't prove it to him or anyone else they will never get it. We win at least two and possibly 3 more games with just average special teams play.
You make it special by treating it as such. You value it's importance and make sure the players know it. First thing you do is get all those slow assed walk ons off of coverage units and put your best guys out there. If it's important show it by playing your best players on those units
Secondly you use it as a weapon. Not just something to transition your offensive unit to ur defensive unit and vice versa. Attack on both ends of your units. Try and block punts, make returns AGGRESSIVELY no fair catching all the damn time. Special teams is a mindset and I agree completely RHULE is responsible for that mindset.
Start practice and end practice with special teams. Somewhere in the middle run your units out there for pressure kicks, blocks or returns
As horrible as I think Foley is Rhule is gonna have to get out of his comfort zone in special teams. Hire a guy who lives it and believes in its importance and then back him with all he needs. Until Rhule truly buys in and not just lip service it won't matter.
Even though we finished below on turnover margin we made a huge jump from last year. We need the same kind of attention to our special team units this off season
Holla
It wasn’t heading out of bounds. Watch it again in slow motion. IF he let it go, it’s most likely a touchback.
After seeing what he did here and South Carolina you think Satterfield could easily get another OC job? I'm not sure I agree with that. Contrary to public opinion he wasn't good at South Carolina and they were glad we took him. He was worse at Nebraska and got replaced before years end. I'm not so sure that resume will have suitors calling for him to coordinate offenses for them. Jmo tho...
Holla
Haven't had time to read much of this thread so I might be repeating previous thoughts. I don't think Rhule is a big firing guy - he'll help Foley get another job and then publicly announce we wish Foley well, thank him for his time here, and get another dude in there. I'm good with how Rhule treats people.
