I said it at the time. Nebraska made a mistake by leaving the Big 12. The Cornhuskers cut themselves off from both their natural rivalries AND, most importantly, their only "natural" recruiting ground in Texas. The decision to leave was a catastrophic miscalculation. It's too bad, because college football is far worse off for it. The game was better when Big Red was Big Red.
Nebraska Should Never Have Left the Big 12
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Hell I’m a 50-year Texas fan and I wish you’d never left. Big 12 was better with ya’ll in it.
I've never been a big 10 fan it's like watching the paint dry and to hung up on there traditions but the big 12 was and is unstable and with Nebraskas low population they had to have stability so we went with the big 10 geographically were a way better fit with the plains teams than the Midwest
I swear this tired topic comes up after every bad loss.
You know, if Texas hadn't tried to get a third of the conference to leave with them to the PAC 10/12, NU may still be in the Big XII. Texas didn't really leave us any other option.
The myth of losing Texas recruiting is only spouted by those who have no idea what they’re talking about. Nebraska only played Texas schools after we were done winning. We never relied on recruiting Texas. GTFO
Texas has a direct pipeline to Texas recruits and still aren’t worth a darn.
Wrong!!!! Texas was telling us to stay while looking for the exit. Feel free to GTFO.
If it makes you feel better most of us in the Big don't consider you actually as part of the conference. You guys were good because A) you only had to beat OU and then 6 dwarfs to win the conference and B) you had provisional players who couldn't tie their own shoes. Seriously, you were Boise State before BSU.
Yeah, like back in the days before Nebraska joined the big, it was still a two or three team league with every other team being garbage. And please, there are plenty of ethnic studies students on every roster of the big today, just like it was 20 years ago.
Now let's look at it today, ONE team with a legitimate shot to win a NC, and two other wannabe's. Top heavy as usual.
The problem for those of us who would like to see Nebraska get back is that it doesn't appear that Big Red will be any of those 2-3 teams soon. You all have a much harder row to how in the Big 10 and your ammunition is far more limited.
I said that too, but people were too caught up in joining the the more prestigious conference. Texas was always the number one state for NU recruits outside Nebraska, and not playing there has hurt recruiting in that state. They lost their rivaries and identity and I still don't get excited about playing Iowa on TG weekend (sorry). At the time NU joined the Big 10 I also said it would help the other Big 10 schools and hurt NU by giving the conference another name school with TV appeal, but cutting off NU from its recruiting beds. That is exactly what has happened.
A&M as well. Hell, every Texas school. These people claiming Texas was some sacred recruiting hotbed for NU make me laugh. It's not even a recruiting hotbed for their own programs.
Over time, Nebraska has gotten more quality players from other states than texas. Hell, Nebraska got two players from Missouri that were better than any players Nebraska ever got from texas. I see texas kids going all over the country to this day, no reason why it needs to dry up just because Nebraska is in the B1G.
From 2008 thru 2010, Nebraska got 22 commits from texas, and only one really stood out while the rest were either pedestrian or major bust. Rex Burkhead is the only one that was worth a darn.
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Lol again with this Texas recruiting shit. Please go back and look at the numbers of major contributors and where they came out of. It doesn’t add up.
No, they wouldn't have. Read up on some history. The Big XII was on the verge of collapse. This left NU with the possibility of ending up as an Independent. So, the Big Ten was a hell of an option compared to that.
2 quality programs and and a bunch of dwarves....sounds like the Big 10 the last 50 years. Well honestly Ohio St has been the only big boy program, and Michigan to a lesser degree.
That’s stupid. The big xii was very unstable texas sucks balls.
The big10 is way more stable and is much more lucrative financially.
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Nebraska left because they didn't want to call Texas their daddy.
Texas and the rest of the Big 12 just suck, Texas wants to essentially own a major conference. They balked at a conference network, they are just like Notre Dame in thinking they are bigger than the game.
Just go independent Texas, your conference will soon dissolve when Oklahoma bolts.
Texas and the rest of the Big 12 just suck, Texas wants to essentially own a major conference. They balked at a conference network, they are just like Notre Dame in thinking they are bigger than the game.
Just go independent Texas, your conference will soon dissolve when Oklahoma bolts.
In the end there will probably be five power Conferences, each with 2 divisions and probably ten teams.
As soon as they start paying players, that’s the deal.
Big 12 will probably be absorbed into two of those conferences.
As soon as they start paying players, that’s the deal.
Big 12 will probably be absorbed into two of those conferences.
I don’t care what P5 conference we play in.
Right now I would just be happy if we can beat Purdue.
Let that sink in.
Right now I would just be happy if we can beat Purdue.
Let that sink in.
Exactly. Instability arose from four Big 12 schools voting against revenue sharing; Nebraska, OU, Texas and A&M. Any one vote from that group would have allowed equal revenue distribution
Still sad you guys left.
Nebraska fans are genuine, friendly, and really know their football. I miss you in the Big 12 Conference and miss ya'll coming to Austin.
Nebraska fans are genuine, friendly, and really know their football. I miss you in the Big 12 Conference and miss ya'll coming to Austin.
Boilermaker fan here, and lurker across many B1G boards.
The subject of this thread caught my eye, because it's a conversation I've had with Maryland fans. Generally speaking, their first choice seems to be the old ACC they grew up with, which depending on their age may include FSU or Miami, but does not include Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, BC, or Va Tech. Given the fact that ship has sailed, they'd rather be in the current Big Ten than the current ACC. I wonder if that the sentiment here as well, if the old Big Eight or original Big Twelve is ideal, but given TX and OU's "leadership" would rather be here than there, though neither may be a perfect fit.
I also wanted to comment and question on the academic front brought up in this thread, even though I don't want to feed the trolls from other schools. My understanding is that the reason Nebraska left the AAU was because they no longer qualified after taking a certain amount of public research money. I believe I heard that AAU requires X number of research dollars, and that Y% of it be from private companies. I believe Nebraska maintained their level of private research financing, but attracted enough public money that the percentage no longer qualified. Perhaps someone here can confirm or refute? I know when a university has prominence in medicine and agriculture the percentage requirement becomes more difficult, because so much of that research is financed by the Federal Government.
It also should be pointed out that the Big Ten is also an academic conference, as demonstrated by the Big Ten Academic Alliance (www.btaa.org for those interested). Here member schools can pool resources for coursework, experimentation, and to attract research dollars. Say there's bidding on a project to determine how best to deploy airbags based on given crash angles / velocities in passenger vehicles? Nebraska, Purdue, and Michigan could make a combined proposal using the automotive design lab in Ann Arbor, the AI design lab in West Lafayette, and the Kinesiology lab in Lincoln. We shouldn't act like the conference decision wasn't based on athletic revenue, but I think the students and professors at Nebraska benefit academically as well - just my biased opinion.
Anyway, good luck the rest of the year, and I hope to make it to Nebraska for the opener next year. Nebraska and Maryland are the two conference campuses I've yet to visit.
The subject of this thread caught my eye, because it's a conversation I've had with Maryland fans. Generally speaking, their first choice seems to be the old ACC they grew up with, which depending on their age may include FSU or Miami, but does not include Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, BC, or Va Tech. Given the fact that ship has sailed, they'd rather be in the current Big Ten than the current ACC. I wonder if that the sentiment here as well, if the old Big Eight or original Big Twelve is ideal, but given TX and OU's "leadership" would rather be here than there, though neither may be a perfect fit.
I also wanted to comment and question on the academic front brought up in this thread, even though I don't want to feed the trolls from other schools. My understanding is that the reason Nebraska left the AAU was because they no longer qualified after taking a certain amount of public research money. I believe I heard that AAU requires X number of research dollars, and that Y% of it be from private companies. I believe Nebraska maintained their level of private research financing, but attracted enough public money that the percentage no longer qualified. Perhaps someone here can confirm or refute? I know when a university has prominence in medicine and agriculture the percentage requirement becomes more difficult, because so much of that research is financed by the Federal Government.
It also should be pointed out that the Big Ten is also an academic conference, as demonstrated by the Big Ten Academic Alliance (www.btaa.org for those interested). Here member schools can pool resources for coursework, experimentation, and to attract research dollars. Say there's bidding on a project to determine how best to deploy airbags based on given crash angles / velocities in passenger vehicles? Nebraska, Purdue, and Michigan could make a combined proposal using the automotive design lab in Ann Arbor, the AI design lab in West Lafayette, and the Kinesiology lab in Lincoln. We shouldn't act like the conference decision wasn't based on athletic revenue, but I think the students and professors at Nebraska benefit academically as well - just my biased opinion.
Anyway, good luck the rest of the year, and I hope to make it to Nebraska for the opener next year. Nebraska and Maryland are the two conference campuses I've yet to visit.
100% correct. Nice to see the intelligence of some of our B1G brethren. Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri and Texas A&M did not leave the Big XII (Texas 10). Conference leadership left them and they all ended up in better places and would never in a zillion years return. Big XII apologists popping up on our board are begging all of us to come back because they see the future of four mega conferences and theirs will certainly not be one of them. Now back to the Longhorn Network...
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