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since Bo Pelini left town. - Adam Rittenberg.
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I liked Bo. My personality!Oh, I just want to leave this right here...
I liked Bo. My personality!
Wait are people seriously trying to say this isn't true?
Other than QB, how many positions right now has a definitively better starter than even Pelini's last team in 2014?
RB - there is potential here in 2019 but better than Ameer? Not likely. Better than Newby, Cross and Janovich? We'll see.
TE - Cethan Carter is a better athlete than any TE on our roster. God he needed a good coach.
WR - Again potential is here but Spielman is our top WR Warner is #2 and the rest is unproven. 2014 has Kenny Bell, Jordan Westerkamp and Jamal Turner.
OL - Brendan Jaimes vs Alex Lewis is an interesting one but while there is potential in Farinok, Jurgens and Benhart there was a ton of potential in Jerald Foster, Tanner Farmer and Nick Gates too. Push.. maybe?
DL - This may be the best position group we have in 2019... and yet 2014 destoys it. Randy Gregory Malik Collins Vincent Valentine Mick Stoltenberg Peyton Newell etc. Take away injuries and the awfulness that was Hank Hughes coaching that plagued those that stayed, 2014 we had almost a complete NFL quality 2 deep.
LB - this is tougher because Michael Rose-Ivey only played 6 games in 2014 and they had some depth with Bando, Roach Gifford Santos and Anderson..but Mo Barry is a dude and Honas, Heinrich, Domann, Miller, Ferguson and Davis are likely better. 2019 wins a 2nd position group!
DB - Bo's worst secondary... still had Nate Gerry, Chris Jones Josh Kalu and Corey Cooper. 2019's secondary needs to prove it.
K - Drew Brown and Sam Foltz. Nuff said.
Frost is building the roster back up but if you think we have a better overall roster now than we had before Mike Riley you are seriously fooling yourself. And this was just Pelini's last and likely least talented team.
I can see where you’re going with this. And you may end up being correct. But… You are comparing an already known fact in the past to what you think is going to happen in the future. It’s just not an apples to apples comparison. If you want to say the 2018 defense did not match up or compare to the 2014, I would agree. But until you see what these players can do this year, especially at running back and wide receiver, you are just guessing
Wait are people seriously trying to say this isn't true?
Other than QB, how many positions right now has a definitively better starter than even Pelini's last team in 2014?
RB - there is potential here in 2019 but better than Ameer? Not likely. Better than Newby, Cross and Janovich? We'll see.
TE - Cethan Carter is a better athlete than any TE on our roster. God he needed a good coach.
WR - Again potential is here but Spielman is our top WR Warner is #2 and the rest is unproven. 2014 has Kenny Bell, Jordan Westerkamp and Jamal Turner.
OL - Brendan Jaimes vs Alex Lewis is an interesting one but while there is potential in Farinok, Jurgens and Benhart there was a ton of potential in Jerald Foster, Tanner Farmer and Nick Gates too. Push.. maybe?
DL - This may be the best position group we have in 2019... and yet 2014 destoys it. Randy Gregory Malik Collins Vincent Valentine Mick Stoltenberg Peyton Newell etc. Take away injuries and the awfulness that was Hank Hughes coaching that plagued those that stayed, 2014 we had almost a complete NFL quality 2 deep.
LB - this is tougher because Michael Rose-Ivey only played 6 games in 2014 and they had some depth with Bando, Roach Gifford Santos and Anderson..but Mo Barry is a dude and Honas, Heinrich, Domann, Miller, Ferguson and Davis are likely better. 2019 wins a 2nd position group!
DB - Bo's worst secondary... still had Nate Gerry, Chris Jones Josh Kalu and Corey Cooper. 2019's secondary needs to prove it.
K - Drew Brown and Sam Foltz. Nuff said.
Frost is building the roster back up but if you think we have a better overall roster now than we had before Mike Riley you are seriously fooling yourself. And this was just Pelini's last and likely least talented team.
I think you mean 2009. But yeah, if Bo would have had an offense with a pulse that year, we would have been national title contenders.newby cross and janovich?? get this take and throw it out with the trash
carter just looked good in his uniform, didn't perform at all
bell, westerkamp were good players. JD is absolutely on their level today.
'nuff said' with kickers?? lol
2019 team would be favored in a game against any of bo's teams save maybe '99. maybe.
You think Pelini was here in 99?newby cross and janovich?? get this take and throw it out with the trash
carter just looked good in his uniform, didn't perform at all
bell, westerkamp were good players. JD is absolutely on their level today.
'nuff said' with kickers?? lol
2019 team would be favored in a game against any of bo's teams save maybe suh's last team. maybe.
I knew it wasn't apples to apples going in.. I started with doing 2018 and then did it this way because I was actually hoping it would make it closer. Without Daniels, Green, Noa, Jurgens, Honas and a top 15 class with that comes with using 2019 it was looking like a joke.
Pelini has always been at Nebraska, he was manifested by our collective pain and frustration with small men from California and those who wear grey suits. We ferociously created a monster, a man who demands and inspires wall crashing, a man who readeth not, a man who speaketh his truth, a man whom our wives did not desire, a man who could sweat urine, chew through a dead horse, and man who could slap us and Texas even in defeat, he was before us, with us, and will be here long after us. He is a Bo Pelini.You think Pelini was here in 99?
Rittenberg is not a knowledgeable writer/commentator. Just because he watches college football, doesn't mean he knows jack squat. Pelini inherited tremendous talent from Callahan and he did land some very talented defenders (espeically jucos). The problem is that he didn't recruit remotely ENOUGH talent at all positions to hang with the likes of Wisconsin. I'm not buying that we don't have better talent in this second year of Frost than we had during Bo's last season. Look at the lack of draft picks from Bo's last couple of classes. There's yer sign.since Bo Pelini left town. - Adam Rittenberg.
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For the most part. Pelini did bring I think LaVonte and a few other talented defensive guys but we lacked tremendously in quality depth across the board. Right now YSU is whipping Samford....and the talking heads are losing their minds about his talent pool. Wait until he plays NDSU, SDSU and USD.Didn't Callahan recruit his best players? Yep
There's just a couple of low level commentators doing the YSU vs Samford game who are losing their minds over Pelini. They went on to talk about what a great addition Carl Pelini was to Bo's staff. Talked about what a steadying influence he was to Bo.Are the talking heads not happy with Frost as our coach? Thought ALL fans would be fine with him. Not understanding rehashing the bastard who bashed Husker fans.
since Bo Pelini left town. - Adam Rittenberg.
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I wasted a bunch of time in a response to the Blackshirt post and then deleted it. Not just apples to apples problems, but the comparing was pretty sloppy. Foster, Farmer, Mick and Newell were not contributors in 2014. Depth charts are available from the 2014 season, so one could do an apples to predicted apples comparison, not just pull names out one's rectum.I can see where you’re going with this. And you may end up being correct. But… You are comparing an already known fact in the past to what you think is going to happen in the future. It’s just not an apples to apples comparison. If you want to say the 2018 defense did not match up or compare to the 2014, I would agree. But until you see what these players can do this year, especially at running back and wide receiver, you are just guessing
It is like saying your investments made you $1000 from Jan to Dec in 2014 and then in June of 2019, when you’ve only earned $600, saying in 2014 you had better investments.
I wasted a bunch of time in a response to the Blackshirt post and then deleted it. Not just apples to apples problems, but the comparing was pretty sloppy. Foster, Farmer, Mick and Newell were not contributors in 2014. Depth charts are available from the 2014 season, so one could do an apples to predicted apples comparison, not just pull names out one's rectum.
The key thing is the initial concession of "other than QB". Lots of respect for TA as a warrior, but there were throws that he simply could not make. AMart matches and probably exceeds TA in athleticism and has had the benefit of an actual QB coach.
In year 7 of Pelini, a supposed guru of the D, and with some great Dline talent and with experienced LBs, there were run plays that opponents used that were like kryptonite to NU's run defense. I never understood that.
Just wanted to point out that Suh was not a Pelini recruit, he was a Callahan recruit.To an extent this quote isn’t that crazy.
As of right now, we don’t have any Suhs, Davids, Abdullahs, Gregory’s that are surefire NFL guys. But overall, his quote is stupid.