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I would argue 1) we saw his potential in 2018 and 2) with better coaching and development he’d be further along. TO himself called him at one time the most talented QB ever at Neb.
As for my coaching questions? Will you admit at least in my examples that often are indicators of less than great coaching…that Neb has exhibited a lot (and consistently) of this indicators under Frost?
Again…main concern not AM. The discipline and play and decision making of the leaders over this team has been poor over the past 3 years. I’m hoping the light turns on this year or “more talent” may not matter much.
Let me ask you a question. Put AM in the Neb offense from 93-97 and with the talent they had at that time and TO as coach. Now put Tommie Frazier as starting QB with Riley/Frost as coach from 2017-2020…who has the better record? And please…be honest with your answer. AM with the Pipeline, LP, Green, Wistrom, Farley…etc. Tommie with the 3 walkon receivers, last years O line, Wandale/Scott and some walkon kid I can’t remember toting the rock. Be honest…without AM and LMs legs last year Neb may have not won any games. They and (IMO) a drastically overrated and misused Wandale were our offense. We were running Cade Warner on fly patterns early in the seasonforgive me for running out of rope on the losingest player in Nebraska football history.
6+ in 2021! lmao the fact our fans are touting this as an exciting accomplishment shows just how far expectations have fallen.
pathetic
AM with TO and arguably the best college football team would have the better record.Let me ask you a question. Put AM in the Neb offense from 93-97 and with the talent they had at that time and TO as coach. Now put Tommie Frazier as starting QB with Riley/Frost as coach from 2017-2020…who has the better record? And please…be honest with your answer. AM with the Pipeline, LP, Green, Wistrom, Farley…etc. Tommie with the 3 walkon receivers, last years O line, Wandale/Scott and some walkon kid I can’t remember toting the rock. Be honest…without AM and LMs legs last year Neb may have not won any games. They and (IMO) a drastically overrated and misused Wandale were our offense. We were running Cade Warner on fly patterns early in the season
AM would have gotten benched by TO.AM with TO and arguably the best college football team would have the better record.
duh
So why put all of the losing blame on AM?AM with TO and arguably the best college football team would have the better record.
duh
I don't put all of the losing blame on AMSo why put all of the losing blame on AM?
The problem I see is can a defense be successful in the B10 when your Defensive backfield is your best group?Haarberg got his butt handed too him by St Paul last year and against our average Gothenburg Swedes he passed for 45% completions. He has the tools but he is coming from a C1 school and needs the time to develop into a starting quarterback, especially at this level. We need Martinez to carry this team and he has more pieces of the puzzle to help him be the best he can be this year.
I for one hope Martinez has a great year, not only because I am a Husker fan but because I love a good redemption story. It is painful listening to all the bitching on this board, even before we played a game! With our improvements up front in both offense and defense lines, improved big powerful receivers and a experienced defense, I am optimistic about this season!!
But… our O LineThat’s right. No excuses this year if things go bad.
Would Tommie have had a winning record? Seriously. If not would that have made him as loser?I don't put all of the losing blame on AM
that doesn't make him not a loser
yes.Would Tommie have had a winning record? Seriously. If not would that have made him as loser?
Ok. All of the talent deficiency, poor coaching, horrible special teams….Tommie would have carried it all on his shoulders…a one man team. Back in Tommie’s day other teams had to respect our run so much that when we did pass (infrequent) in a play action type situation we often had receivers open without a defender within 20 yards.yes.
he would've gone 6-2 last year.
2020 NW, ILL, iowa games are double digit wins with anything close to avg QB playOk. All of the talent deficiency, poor coaching, horrible special teams….Tommie would have carried it all on his shoulders…a one man team. Back in Tommie’s day other teams had to respect our run so much that when we did pass (infrequent) in a play action type situation we often had receivers open without a defender within 20 yards.
He would have had (last year) to win with his legs. Did we have the Oline or blocking on the edge to have him do that consistently.
Oh well. I think you’re delusional it what the hell do I know.
WAY too much is made if play calling. The difference between a "good" and "bad" play call are generally two things: having a basic read on what the D is doing and most of all, EXECUTION which we have not had in multiple positions.The problem I see is can a defense be successful in the B10 when your Defensive backfield is your best group?
Another thing I’d like to add is this OL will still struggle…maybe not as much? so it ultimately boils down to the development of Frost and the OC on calling plays IMO. Assuming we at the very least, take care of the football and cut the penalties in half.
from LJS:
This spring, Martinez was asked if he could have played in a bowl game had the Huskers not voted against accepting a bid as a team.
"...I was pretty beat up from a season and then also from the (Rutgers game) — I wasn't in the best of shape," Martinez said.