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Mickey could be our Dabo

Natty1

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If I’m not mistaken Dabo elevated to HC at Clemson as the receivers coach after a firing. If I remember correctly he didn’t have any Coordinator experience either. Was considered an excellent recruiter too.

just food for thought. Have a great wknd y’all.
 
He could, but he took Clemson to a bowl game against Nebraska when he was interim coach…

Is Mickey and staff going to win 3 more games?
I guess we will find out tomorrow. If Nebraska somehow pulls that game off they should pull all starters and play the walk-ons against Michigan. Take an extra Bye week.
 
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Picking out the incredible exception doesn’t make the odds of success any better.
is it really an incredible exception? what's the sample size of WR coaches who were named permanent head coach following an interim stint?

maybe the success rate of those guys is 100%
 
FFS, based on what? Stop letting emotions dictate choices. If Whipple was interim, would we be taking about this? MJ has 2 wins against crap teams, 2 blowout losses and one high score shootout loss. On what factual, non-emotional basis are you evaluating his talent as a HC? It is certainly isn’t on results or even fundamentals. We are still not executing fundamentals.

The fact is, MJ is a former Husker. That is the ONLY factor people are looking at.
 
Recruiting recruiting recruiting. We need better players across the board. Period. A coach has to do more than recruit of course, but that is where it starts. You can point to programs like Northwestern that do more with less. But how is that working out for them lately? We need elite athletes. All the national pundits say those days are over for Nebraska. I disagree. But it takes a coach who can recruit his ass off and a coach who builds a staff that can do the same. Is Mickey that coach? I do not know
 
Recruiting recruiting recruiting. We need better players across the board. Period. A coach has to do more than recruit of course, but that is where it starts. You can point to programs like Northwestern that do more with less. But how is that working out for them lately? We need elite athletes. All the national pundits say those days are over for Nebraska. I disagree. But it takes a coach who can recruit his ass off and a coach who builds a staff that can do the same. Is Mickey that coach? I do not know
John Blake is the reason you need to have a HC who is a CEO and can run a complete program not just recruit
 
Picking out the incredible exception doesn’t make the odds of success any better.
Truth be told though it’s extremely rare for a position coach to make that jump in D1 football so their success rate might actually be just as high as coordinators or head coaches from lower level programs. There isn’t really enough statistical evidence to say one way or the other.
 
Truth be told though it’s extremely rare for a position coach to make that jump in D1 football so their success rate might actually be just as high as coordinators or head coaches from lower level programs. There isn’t really enough statistical evidence to say one way or the other.
there absolutely is statistical evidence to say one way or the other

I'm just not interested in compiling it RollingLaugh
 
Truth be told though it’s extremely rare for a position coach to make that jump in D1 football so their success rate might actually be just as high as coordinators or head coaches from lower level programs. There isn’t really enough statistical evidence to say one way or the other.
It is an interesting idea. It would be kind of a out of left field idea. It does lean into the era of NIL and could be an advantage, but it is a hugeee risk could it pay off? Maybe.
 
Recruiting recruiting recruiting. We need better players across the board. Period. A coach has to do more than recruit of course, but that is where it starts. You can point to programs like Northwestern that do more with less. But how is that working out for them lately? We need elite athletes. All the national pundits say those days are over for Nebraska. I disagree. But it takes a coach who can recruit his ass off and a coach who builds a staff that can do the same. Is Mickey that coach? I do not know
I generally agree, but a coach and his staff have to be top-notch at development and gameplanning. Just look at Texas. They recruit like crazy and still can't get it done. That's what scares me about Mickey. He hasn't proven that yet. Can he? Time will tell.
 
there absolutely is statistical evidence to say one way or the other

I'm just not interested in compiling it RollingLaugh
I would challenge anybody to produce a statistically significant analysis. Can’t be done🤷‍♂️
 
Agree - not a lot of evidence. I remember the last time Trev and the admin made a decision that went against the grain. But if it is MJ then LFG already

"There's not a lot of empirical data out there to suggest this will work, let's be honest. But I also think, if there's a decision point - whether it's football or anything else, you know, Scott's a brother, he's a Husker, and he's a Nebraskan."

replace Scott with Mickey above - if that is the decision hopefully it lands a little better
 
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"There's not a lot of empirical data out there to suggest this will work, let's be honest. But I also think, if there's a decision point - whether it's football or anything else, you know, Scott's a brother, he's a Husker, and he's a Nebraskan."
Oofta.
 
Dabo had a winning record as interim coach. Mickey will likely be 2-7

Also, Clemson had a ton of talent on the roster thanks to Dabo, he was their main recruiter and brought in Top 10-20 classes every year. They just needed better coaching, and Dabo was able to bring in great assistants.

Whereas we have very little talent and will need a complete rebuild. Will great assistants want to come to a place that needs a complete rebuild under an inexperienced first-time head coach??
 
Recruiting recruiting recruiting. We need better players across the board. Period. A coach has to do more than recruit of course, but that is where it starts. You can point to programs like Northwestern that do more with less. But how is that working out for them lately? We need elite athletes. All the national pundits say those days are over for Nebraska. I disagree. But it takes a coach who can recruit his ass off and a coach who builds a staff that can do the same. Is Mickey that coach? I do not know
Recruiting is important, yes. It hasn't ever been the problem here. We routinely have top 20 ranked recruiting classes. The issue we have is developing and keeping the talent here. Recruiting should be below other criteria. We aren't losing because we can't recruit, we are losing because we can't develop and can't coach.
 
Recruiting is important, yes. It hasn't ever been the problem here. We routinely have top 20 ranked recruiting classes. The issue we have is developing and keeping the talent here. Recruiting should be below other criteria. We aren't losing because we can't recruit, we are losing because we can't develop and can't coach.
Disagree. We need ALL those things. And we have not recruited elite athletes like we used to.
 
Recruiting is important, yes. It hasn't ever been the problem here. We routinely have top 20 ranked recruiting classes. The issue we have is developing and keeping the talent here. Recruiting should be below other criteria. We aren't losing because we can't recruit, we are losing because we can't develop and can't coach.
Some would argue that we aren’t recruiting the right guys regardless of rankings. When your highest ranked recruit in a class plays a bunch but decides to quit football, there’s yer sign.
 
Southern AD was an idiot. Amazing. He would have been a great hire for that doormat
SWAC and HBCUs are notoriously extremely conservative institutions - perhaps among the most conservative in the country - so I'm not at all surprised he went with a career SWAC coach

it's why I believe Deion's public persona is 180 degrees incorrect from his actual character
 
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I like Mickey, but this has to give you some pause.


Mickey is NOT qualified to be the head coach. Will people please stop with this nonsense? I commend him for rallying the troops and getting a couple wins but he is very likely going to be 2-7 as an interim head coach. If Trev hires Mickey he will have sealed his own fate. Trev and Mickey will both be gone in 2 years. You do not make that hire based on the other coaches that are available to you. Matt Rhule, Lance Leipold, Chris Klieman, Gary Patterson, Dave Doeren, Mark Stoops, Bill O'Brien are all vastly more qualified for this job than Mickey. I like Mickey I think he's a good guy and a good coach but we have got to aim bigger than a position coach and no he is not the second coming of Dabo Swinney.
 
FFS, based on what? Stop letting emotions dictate choices. If Whipple was interim, would we be taking about this? MJ has 2 wins against crap teams, 2 blowout losses and one high score shootout loss. On what factual, non-emotional basis are you evaluating his talent as a HC? It is certainly isn’t on results or even fundamentals. We are still not executing fundamentals.

The fact is, MJ is a former Husker. That is the ONLY factor people are looking at.
I'm not looking at it like that (Former Husker) Mickey just got here this past offseason. The ground work or plan created in the offseason wasn't his vision. I think there is a good reason Whipple wasn't named interim HC. You are right, there is no data out there to say if he will be a good or bad HC, but i'm a believer in potential and i think he can (with an offseason under his vision) make things better for us. Just an opinion of a fan nothing more.
 
Mickey is NOT qualified to be the head coach. Will people please stop with this nonsense? I commend him for rallying the troops and getting a couple wins but he is very likely going to be 2-7 as an interim head coach. If Trev hires Mickey he will have sealed his own fate. Trev and Mickey will both be gone in 2 years. You do not make that hire based on the other coaches that are available to you. Matt Rhule, Lance Leipold, Chris Klieman, Gary Patterson, Dave Doeren, Mark Stoops, Bill O'Brien are all vastly more qualified for this job than Mickey. I like Mickey I think he's a good guy and a good coach but we have got to aim bigger than a position coach and no he is not the second coming of Dabo Swinney.
It is possible that MJ could do well, but as you said, if Trev were to pass on so many and go with MJ, and it doesnt go well, Trev is out on his ass.
 
JFC, how many times we gonna kick this tire down the road? I'm 100% positive there is, verbatim, this exact comment in one of the 1,000 other post about the coaching search
 
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is it really an incredible exception? what's the sample size of WR coaches who were named permanent head coach following an interim stint?

maybe the success rate of those guys is 100%
You broke the code. Genius, pure genius. I just wish you would have told just Trev, and not the entire world. How are those meetings going by the way.
 
JFC, how many times we gonna kick this tire down the road? I'm 100% positive there is, verbatim, this exact comment in one of the 1,000 other post about the coaching search
My bad bruh - I haven't seen the 1K other posts about it. I'm just a casual reader who posts once every 5-6 yrs. You ok w/ that?
 
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