Because, as I already pointed out in a previous thread, Rhule coached with McGuire's dad at Baylor. His son was a nepotistic hire by Rhule.
McGuire out as WR Coach
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At this point, we don’t quite know the deal. If he is going to be a standard analyst/GA for his quality experience and paid accordingly, that’s one thing. If they’ve carved out some role as an active on-field coach, that’s quite another.
I don't think this is the same as firing a HC. McGuire is isnt going to sit out and golf while collecting his severance. His new job would partially offset what we owe him. Couldn't see it costing us much.
Sounds like a great guy, but I'm not a huge fan of keeping demoted people around. For one it's awkward no matter if people say it isn't. You're also keeping a person around who clearly failed. Not exactly a great example for a bunch of young people.
He can't teach blocking worth a shit. What good is he as an inside receivers coach? I know Ron Brown can teach blocking, would much rather have him.
We have to pay him I believe one way or another. His WRs improved dramatically with Dana’s help. There would be no harm and zero cost to keeping him as an assistant WR coach.
Incompetence breeds further incompetence. Just move the **** on from him already. Gave him a shot and he failed.
Again, it’s not what we want at this point. It’s what Dana wants. IF Dana thinks there’s value in having him around you keep him. Dana has seen him for 3 weeks but no doubt wants to hire someone familiar with his offense
Sometimes it's just easier to move on. When the new WR coach goes ballistic about their blocking this spring, there wouldn't be a 24 year coach standing there awkwardly listening to players explain how the old coach taught them.
I’m quite sure that situation has already occurred.
Incompetence, zero accountability, inbred thinking, and little to no outside talent infusion. These are things that kill an organization and I've seen it many times. The cost in keeping him is much higher than zero.
There would also be no value in having him as one of the precious few on-field coaches. None. We know because we saw what he brought before DH: nothing. We can fill that position with someone that knows something already without DH having to teach him. DH doesn’t need that burden. And we know it would be DH’s burden because nobody else did anything to teach/help him for 1.75 seasons.
GA at best is what he should be.
Since there is still a bowl game and all the bowl practices. At this point I just want the dust to settle get through the bowl game and see how everything pans out. Just seems like a lot of assumptions being made about staffing positions at this point.
This has more to do with what McGuire actual role will be moving forward and what DH wants as far as staffing for the offense. This has nothing to do with White.
You mentioned the bowl game. The bowl game is in fact important for this team. The offense will be fine. The defense is taking the hits.
Then let's fill those spots with assistants who have actually shown something, anything worth having around and teaching and developing the players. The kid had 2 years to do this, which is already a better chance than most will ever get, and he failed spectacularly.
Yes I did. The dust will settle more after the bowl game. Look at the title of the thread. In nowhere does it say White. This thread has been about what he kids roll will be moving forward if he is not let go.
Unlimited voices is not a positive. Voices that don’t know what to say, how to say it is not a positive. There is not an unlimited salary pool to attract an unlimited number of assistant coaches with unlimited potential.
Again, it’s Dana’s call not yours or mine. I don’t really care.
You brought up the bowl game. Threads morph as they progress. People should be a helluva lot more worried about the defense than what the role of a demoted position coach will be. HE DOESN’T MATTER ANYMORE! Sorry to shout but the angst over his role is silly.
Is it? Because if Dana liked him so much, you would think he could have stayed in his old role. As a HC, Dana never had problems with getting rid of deadweight. I'm thinking it's Rhule's call the reason the kid is sticking around.
Looking at the threads about White. I see a lot of worry over White. I have zero angst about this kid. Hints at the post that all of that will settle after the bowl game. That’s all that’s it. You seem to get awfully dense sometimes.
You could be right. Posters are saying he’s only as valuable as a GA. From the sound of it that’s probably what I would expect his duties will be. That said, we kind of need him to stick around at least through the bowl game and he has built a relationship with our WR recruits.
People are very worried about the defense. Some of the more astute among us realize we don't have room for deadweight on offense when that's what we'll likely have to rely on to win games next year.
Hoping they announce new WR coach before long so that the puzzle pieces come together quickly. But just hearing the accomplishments of WRs that have played under Dana as a WR coach , OC and head coach is incredible. Dana alone will excite top WRs to come here
I agree but the new WR coach might have a tough time coaching our guys up for the bowl game unless he’s taught Dana’s offense recently. It will be interesting to see if Dana installs all or part of his offense before the bowl game.
We have to pay him I believe regardless. Dana’s voice has already been heard loud and clear and I guarantee you that none of his offensive assistants will diverge from his messaging.
We don’t know what budget Rhule has been given. Remember that we could hire 100+ coaches under the new rules. I suspect we could see different coaches recruiting vs holding key assistant and coordinator jobs. Will DH, for example, travel to recruit?
McGuire could be assuming a newly created position, if he stays.
Well, IDK about all that. 2 years ago you had to fire him to make room for the new WR coach. Now Rhule can have as many paid assistants as he wants. So this is really a new approach that wasn’t even an option until recently. That being said, retaining demoted employees is a risky move. Not many people believe they deserved to be fired or demoted, and that dynamic can have a negative effect on staff chemistry.
I have occasionally caught the Nebraska Rivals staff on YouTube and wasn’t impressed. Since Rivals’ Greg Smith is the source the OP quoted, does he seem to be connected? Obviously there is already conflicting info, so I wonder if he jumped the gun based on less than solid info.
I get the impression this is a move to help McGuire “save face” and land a better job, softer landing so to speak. Don’t if I’m right about this or if it will ultimately help him find a solid/better job. What I do know is Rhule owes him whatever he can do cause this is Matt Rhule’s fault 100%. Anyone who thought a 23 year old position coach was gonna work is a fool. (Rhule especially) He hired someone who wasn’t even remotely prepared or ready for this job. He put McGuire in a position to fail and he should, IMO, do whatever he can to help him find another job. Another job not at the university of Nebraska preferably…
Mickey’s unfortunate situation put Rhule behind the 8 ball on his offensive staff. McGwire was hired after most of the assistant jobs nationally had already been filled. The pressure on Trev to somehow retain Mickey screwed up the timing of most of our offensive hires. For whatever reason Rhule thought he could roll with Satt and McGwire instead of replacing them last winter.
GA positions were really like indentured servitude. They paid next to nothing.
Maybe sticking around and learning from a more experienced coach will turn him into a better coach. Just because he was thrown into a role too early doesn’t mean we should hate him. I’m sure he’s way ahead of his years and has potential to turn into a good one although he isn’t yet. Maybe this adjust role will help him grow and he will be a great coach for us one day
Why is TE an afterthought? That's the kinda thinking that gets coaches fired. If you can upgrade at a position you upgrade.
My guess is they probably thought the special teams coach Foley was an afterthought also. How did that work out over the first couple years?
You wanna be the best their should be no coaching positions that are after thoughts.
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He has the ability to continue to learn under Rhule and Holgorsen. I’m fine with it. He has a limited role now. After a few years under someone like Holgorsen he will likely be a much better coach.
How the **** he is not already gone is almost comical.
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