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Listen folks...kids behave better than this.

The guy is making 2+ million a year. Something is wrong if he can't take a little pressure from the fan base when he stinks up the joint.
Sure the HC would agree with you Tom yet the negativity impacts the players and since we are in year 1 and WE ALL KNOW he's going to get at least 4 years to prove himself where does the negativity get us? I would argue in a worse place than we are now. So while none of us are happy I will support these coaches and players during their struggles and not kick them when they are down.
 
Howdy mates!!! Throwing this out there......if Chip Kelly becomes available do the Huskers jump because I know Texas is chomping at the bit. Would love to hear Husker input because the last thing I want to see is Chip at Texas and what would the state do if Scott Frost followed him to Texas.
 
Howdy mates!!! Throwing this out there......if Chip Kelly becomes available do the Huskers jump because I know Texas is chomping at the bit. Would love to hear Husker input because the last thing I want to see is Chip at Texas and what would the state do if Scott Frost followed him to Texas.

NU isn't going to attempt to outbid UT. NU also isn't going to chuck a FB coach overboard after 1 year, or part of a year.

Some other board I was reading guys were trying to think of one and done coaches in in Div 1 football, and the dude from Southern Miss a couple years ago and Schnellenberger were the only two people could think of. Schnellenberger had behind the scenes stuff I believe as well.
 
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Sure the HC would agree with you Tom yet the negativity impacts the players and since we are in year 1 and WE ALL KNOW he's going to get at least 4 years to prove himself where does the negativity get us? I would argue in a worse place than we are now. So while none of us are happy I will support these coaches and players during their struggles and not kick them when they are down.

If Riley struggles mightily, he will be out of here in 2 years. I don't know what will happen this year or next, but if he doesn't go .500 in those two years, I will lay money that he wouldn't see a 3rd season.

That being said, I want the guy to succeed more than any coach since Frank. He has his heart and mind in the right place, and he runs a clean program. How can you not root for the guy?
 
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Sure the HC would agree with you Tom yet the negativity impacts the players and since we are in year 1 and WE ALL KNOW he's going to get at least 4 years to prove himself where does the negativity get us? I would argue in a worse place than we are now. So while none of us are happy I will support these coaches and players during their struggles and not kick them when they are down.

I will actually be much more alarmed if any of our coaches are sorting through message boards to see which way the wind is blowing. If they are that fragile that they have to worry about what might be said about them, than I am positive they do not belong here....that is just another Cornhusker Hotel incident waiting to happen.
 
If Riley struggles mightily, he will be out of here in 2 years. I don't know what will happen this year or next, but if he doesn't go .500 in those two years, I will lay money that he wouldn't see a 3rd season.

That being said, I want the guy to succeed more than any coach since Frank. He has his heart and mind in the right place, and he runs a clean program. How can you not root for the guy?

I would say this is pretty accurate. If after 2 seasons its pretty clear we're not making gains and we have nothing on the field, we probably drop the axe if for nothing else than to save money coming into the program. If we are kinda bad this year, better next year, and we have classes coming in to address needs, he's going to get 3 or 4 years.
 
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So give us the name of the "proven winner" that YOU would have hired. No BS. Give us the name of the guy you would have hired that we realistically could have gotten that IF we had spent the 4-5 million would have GUARANTEED success. I have posted that same question and NOT ONE person has been able to come up with that name. Hindsight McElwain looks like he was a good pickup up but he wasn't going to come to NU over Florida. No way.


Tom Herman. Grand Slam hire. People would have forgiven his lack of head coaching experience. Urban's coaching tree has done pretty well and you saw how good OSU offenses have been. Look at OSU without him...OSU looks like Florida in 09 without Dan Mullen.

While we are at it..Dan Mullen would have left Starkville in a second...he proved himself at the SEC doormat school.

Both would have Nebraska undefeated right now and TA would be getting serious Heisman consideration in those offenses...perfect offenses for TA.
 
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Tom Herman. Grand Slam hire. People would have forgiven his lack of head coaching experience. Urban's coaching tree has done pretty well and you saw how good OSU offenses have been. Look at OSU without him...OSU looks like Florida in 09 with Dan Mullen.

While we are at it..Dan Mullen would have left Starkville in a second...he proved himself at the SEC doormat school.

Both would have Nebraska undefeated right now and TA would be getting serious Heisman consideration in those offenses...perfect offenses for TA.

I like Herman alot, hell I would have been happy with Frost. But the environment at the time was "no place for training wheels on coordinators with no other experience".
 
I seriously question someone who wants a coach fired after 5 games. There have been some seriously embarrassing things posted by Husker fans in the last few days.

I get it. Many Nebraska fans thought it was a questionable hire and then Nebraska gets off to a start like this. A majority of Nebraska fans were probably not alive the last time the Huskers started this bad.

You obviously can't fire a coach after 5 games. However, Nebraska has one of the easiest schedules from Power 5 conference teams. If Nebraska doesn't make a bowl game this year, I have no idea how you could possibly keep Riley. Especially when there are really good candidates that would jump at the chance to coach here.
 
I like Herman alot, hell I would have been happy with Frost. But the environment at the time was "no place for training wheels on coordinators with no other experience".

He is doing a great job at Houston. You can take a chance with assistant coaches that come from the Urban Meyer and Saban's of the world.
 
Rebuild year or two? We've been rebuilding for the last 15 years and most fans are sick & tired of being patient and told that things take time. We just got done suffering through the Bo regime where we were treated to at least one extreme bitch slappin blowout loss on nat'l TV every year. Now it seems like the Mr. Rogers regime is mired in ineptitude. If you're happy watching this program perform at this low of a level and are willing to be patient then fine, but don't tell the rest of us to lower our expectations and be happy watching the team play like the Keystone Kops.
This x1000
 
sure, let's throw in windy wet and cold weather. DL & MR, get off this NFL mindset, this isn't close to the same. This is midwestern run the ball in stormy weather. Chucking the ball around doesn't work here....get real....not talking about running the ball ALL the time but don't pass the ball
ALL the time either....what's so difficult about that...
This too^^
 
I seriously question someone who wants a coach fired after 5 games. There have been some seriously embarrassing things posted by Husker fans in the last few days.
I don't want anyone fired. I want them to do what they were brought in here to do. We were told they would adapt to the players here. Instead they are jamming square pegs into round holes. They are not doing this in every case but in way to many. Put your players in position to win right?
 
No clown, the two posts aren't remotely related. What I wouldn't give to be able to help people like you understand what you are talking about. It would really make it so much easier to visit this board.

Well, gee, if it's so tough on you why don't you take a vacation. But then you wouldn't be able to show everyone how superior you are by calling them names. You got it rough, man, not sure how you're gonna figure this one out.
 
It's a new 1st year Head Coach, it's an entirely new coaching system, complete with new philosophies in offense and defense. The players don't match the system yet, injuries have hurt us a lot. It wasn't going to be pretty, and very few programs have had it easy when such a change occurred.

You're being a bunch of whiny kids. Stop acting like Bama fans, and start supporting your team. We've lost by no more than a TD in each game. It's not like we are getting trounced. Newsflash to those not familiar with the B1G, even a team like Illinois can be pretty good at times. We don't know who or what they are, but as the year goes, we will find out.

Realistic expectations people. Those are three words that many of you could go by. It's going to be a rough season, and you know what? It's not going to get any better if our fair weather fans turn on the coaching staff and make it worse.

I didn't like Bo, but I'm starting to see his point. I'm not saying that to be an arse, i'm saying that because it's true.

Grow up fellow Nebraskans, we are NOT above a rebuild year, or two even.



This may be the stupidest thing I have read. Illinois has tatent? Who they have that any good team would want? They are a terrible, a below average team. Coaches are suppose to make their players better and to succeed. Which means winning. This coaching staff is -3 and its early! As I have already written I can understand the loss on the road to Miami . BYU and Illinois are just plain bad losses. This isn't based on just 5 games either. Riley has been a below average coach for several years. Mike had thisfunky way of coaching when he was at Oregon State. He drove the Beaver fans crazy as well with odd play calling and poor clock management. You keep thinking it is going turn out ok if you want, but you are going to be disappointed.
 
If Riley struggles mightily, he will be out of here in 2 years. I don't know what will happen this year or next, but if he doesn't go .500 in those two years, I will lay money that he wouldn't see a 3rd season.

That being said, I want the guy to succeed more than any coach since Frank. He has his heart and mind in the right place, and he runs a clean program. How can you not root for the guy?

Because he is a nice guy you want Riley to succeed. Ok that is a nice thought but tell me something. How many successful football coaches are nice guys? Hell even TO could get a little prickly with the fans and press
 
I get it. Many Nebraska fans thought it was a questionable hire and then Nebraska gets off to a start like this. A majority of Nebraska fans were probably not alive the last time the Huskers started this bad.

You obviously can't fire a coach after 5 games. However, Nebraska has one of the easiest schedules from Power 5 conference teams. If Nebraska doesn't make a bowl game this year, I have no idea how you could possibly keep Riley. Especially when there are really good candidates that would jump at the chance to coach here.

Gator, I think it will still take two disastrous seasons in a row.....and I believe it should. We cannot just fire a brand new HC after one season....no matter how incapable the staff may look after one season. I know that is even not a lot of time, but if NU is sub .500 in back to back seasons, I am sure that even Riley would have to admit that the cupboard was not THAT bare and he was not getting the job done. I am questioning and as worried as anybody about the hire, but after only five games, he has to at least get the opportunity to "prove us all wrong" in regards to some of the "finding ways to lose" that we have seen from this team.
 
you haven't got an answer b/c it's a dumb question phrased in a particularly stupid way.
I haven't gotten an answer because the guys braying what a terrible hire Riley was don't have A NAME of a guy that was a sure thing hire that would come to NU. People want to bitch and moan but don't have the slightest idea of what a better solution would have been. Same old Husker board. Come on here after a loss and bitch and whine without the slightest idea how to propose a solution other than to fire the coach or fire the AD. So the only name I see now is of a guy that hasn't been a head coach or run a program.....hmmmm didn't we just come down that path.
 
I seriously question someone who wants a coach fired after 5 games. There have been some seriously embarrassing things posted by Husker fans in the last few days.

A few are not Husker fans. They have come here to stir the pot and are doing a fine job. Of course, we have a couple resident guys too.
 
I haven't gotten an answer because the guys braying what a terrible hire Riley was don't have A NAME of a guy that was a sure thing hire that would come to NU. People want to bitch and moan but don't have the slightest idea of what a better solution would have been. Same old Husker board. Come on here after a loss and bitch and whine without the slightest idea how to propose a solution other than to fire the coach or fire the AD. So the only name I see now is of a guy that hasn't been a head coach or run a program.....hmmmm didn't we just come down that path.

Well, Shawn may have fixed the problem for us. When you fire a coach with 9 wins it doesn't matter if its Frank Solich or Bo Pelini, nobody good is going to risk their career to come to a place where that record is going to get you fired. But if you hire someone who goes 4-7 and 5-6, and then you fire him, the candidates may figure out that as long as I'm not a nut, and have a winning record, I can make a career there. So you can get someone good.

Man, Shawn is a genius after all!!!!
 
Well, gee, if it's so tough on you why don't you take a vacation. But then you wouldn't be able to show everyone how superior you are by calling them names. You got it rough, man, not sure how you're gonna figure this one out.
Just you, and a couple others. Just speaking your language. I'll admit, your blathering has me coming over here a little less; no crying in your cereal.
 
Problems w/ opening posters argument:
• Riley has been at NU significantly longer than Illinois has had their coach.
• 2/3 losses have had a lot more to do with boneheaded coaching decisions than a players time in the system.
 
It's a new 1st year Head Coach, it's an entirely new coaching system, complete with new philosophies in offense and defense. The players don't match the system yet, injuries have hurt us a lot. It wasn't going to be pretty, and very few programs have had it easy when such a change occurred.

You're being a bunch of whiny kids. Stop acting like Bama fans, and start supporting your team. We've lost by no more than a TD in each game. It's not like we are getting trounced. Newsflash to those not familiar with the B1G, even a team like Illinois can be pretty good at times. We don't know who or what they are, but as the year goes, we will find out.

Realistic expectations people. Those are three words that many of you could go by. It's going to be a rough season, and you know what? It's not going to get any better if our fair weather fans turn on the coaching staff and make it worse.

I didn't like Bo, but I'm starting to see his point. I'm not saying that to be an arse, i'm saying that because it's true.

Grow up fellow Nebraskans, we are NOT above a rebuild year, or two even.
Harbaugh and McElwain say Hi!
 
Harbaugh and McElwain say Hi!
Michigan had been recruiting top 5 classes for a few years now. Harbaugh system is also not much different to what Hoke was running. Michigans defense was pretty good last year as well. I'd say their offense has suffered this year from what I have seen, but that will change in time. Not sure about McElwain.

Factors matter.
 
I haven't gotten an answer because the guys braying what a terrible hire Riley was don't have A NAME of a guy that was a sure thing hire that would come to NU. People want to bitch and moan but don't have the slightest idea of what a better solution would have been. Same old Husker board. Come on here after a loss and bitch and whine without the slightest idea how to propose a solution other than to fire the coach or fire the AD. So the only name I see now is of a guy that hasn't been a head coach or run a program.....hmmmm didn't we just come down that path.

I have answered the question at least twice. One thread I gave you about 10 coaches and this thread I listed 2.
 
Just you, and a couple others. Just speaking your language. I'll admit, your blathering has me coming over here a little less; no crying in your cereal.

It's amazing that i can have so much power over someone so superior to my lowly self.
 
Michigan had been recruiting top 5 classes for a few years now. Harbaugh system is also not much different to what Hoke was running. Michigans defense was pretty good last year as well. I'd say their offense has suffered this year from what I have seen, but that will change in time. Not sure about McElwain.

Factors matter.

Not true. Michigan has only had a total of 3 top ten classes in the last 10 years and only one of them was in the top 5--#5 to be exact.
 
If Riley struggles mightily, he will be out of here in 2 years. I don't know what will happen this year or next, but if he doesn't go .500 in those two years, I will lay money that he wouldn't see a 3rd season.

That being said, I want the guy to succeed more than any coach since Frank. He has his heart and mind in the right place, and he runs a clean program. How can you not root for the guy?
AMAZING, I actually agree with something you said! <-------Feel free to proof.
 
It's amazing that i can have so much power over someone so superior to my lowly self.
You have no power, over anything I suspect. Reading your posts makes my brain hurt from the total lack of thought that seems to go into most of them. There isn't anything wrong with being lost, but there is when the person who is lost can't recognize it and insists on farting out of his mouth, endlessly.
 
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