Just some thoughts!

[Hus]

Goodrich; a great get; will he also play some offense. Silent commits equal no commitment, period. Why would you want to be silent unless you are looking for better deal. So we have 11 commits not 13. Will Jurgeon get that 5th star. Hmmmmm, a Nebraska kid. Even he is showing the football world that he is one of the real stars, he is from the wrong state. I think on the average media figures one less star for anyone from Nebraska. Mapieu is a good example; he looks like and plays like a 4 star but he is not only a 3 star; he is 5.5 which I think is the lowest 3 star.

Finally, why are we not taking 20 instead of 18. Experience shows we will lose or experience a few transfer; worst case is we might have to ask one player to look around. If we want to be great we have to play the game like the rest of the big ten. If we keep up the great class there is no team in the B

 

[TruHusker]

I thought Riley said 15 was the number we would take.

 

[timnsun]

Goodrich; a great get; will he also play some offense. Silent commits equal no commitment, period. Why would you want to be silent unless you are looking for better deal. So we have 11 commits not 13. Will Jurgeon get that 5th star. Hmmmmm, a Nebraska kid. Even he is showing the football world that he is one of the real stars, he is from the wrong state. I think on the average media figures one less star for anyone from Nebraska. Mapieu is a good example; he looks like and plays like a 4 star but he is not only a 3 star; he is 5.5 which I think is the lowest 3 star.

Finally, why are we not taking 20 instead of 18. Experience shows we will lose or experience a few transfer; worst case is we might have to ask one player to look around. If we want to be great we have to play the game like the rest of the big ten. If we keep up the great class there is no team in the B

I'm assuming you've missed the threads talking about this at length. It's not a matter of not trying to get to 20... we cannot make it happen unless we run off up to 5 underclass men. Which ones are you gonna run off to get from 15 to 20?

At most, the best most on here think we can do is 17, and even then, that might be pushing it.

I am not saying this well enough, but guys like Tuco can explain it much better than me... we simply can't take more than 15 assuming there will be attrition... attrition must happen before the class signs If we are going to take more than 15.

 

[suhnami]

Sounds like at least 1 from last year's class is questionable to make it... and there are multiple others who should push for playing time elsewhere - maybe we can get above 15.

 

[kaz36]

This may be the most lucid Hus post I have seen in a while.

 

[bigboxes]

This may be the most lucid Hus post I have seen in a while.

Is this normal SOP for him?

 

[spartanhusker]

Who IS this guy????

 

[kaz36]

Is this normal SOP for him?

Pretty much.

 

[DudznSudz]

Yeah, the 15 versus over signing by 1 or 2 to 16 or 17 thing is this: We have space for 15, but you're allowed by the Big Ten to sign up to 2 extras (maybe even 3, Tuco knows the answers to that), but you can only do it with the expectation that exactly that many student athletes will drop out of your program before these kids actually show up on campus (attrition). They have to be from a class early along enough to free up usable scholarships, too, not guys that are about to leave anyway, because those scholarships are already part of the class.

So for us to take more than 15 means exactly that many scholarship athletes from lower class will be leaving the program. Tuco had Darlington picked out I think as possibly being a guy that could move on and play QB somewhere else, but that's basically how that works. So Riley says 15 because he's not planning on anyone leaving. If people start doing so, fine, we can take more. If not, 15.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Looks to me, based on numbers, that 16 is our limit, with 15 more likely.

Damn shame we can't take more this year with the momentum we have. If we could take 22 or 23 this year we could easily land a top ten class. We are 6th right now, but once we stall at 15 commits that will drop a lot by the end of the cycle. Our average stars will be high (even higher if we hadn't recruited a kicker), but our overall rank will drop.

 

[otismotis08]

Looks to me, based on numbers, that 16 is our limit, with 15 more likely.

Damn shame we can't take more this year with the momentum we have. If we could take 22 or 23 this year we could easily land a top ten class. We are 6th right now, but once we stall at 15 commits that will drop a lot by the end of the cycle. Our average stars will be high (even higher if we hadn't recruited a kicker), but our overall rank will drop.

True. But then MR and staff can turn their focus on the next year's haul and make it top ten.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I predict -
If Riley and crew are able to pull off 4 wins in games against

@ Oregon
Wisconsin
Ohio St
Northwestern
@Penn St
Iowa

Next year's class will be a haul, like a legit top 7-10 class. The class will be 18-20 players deep and coming off a successful year.

 

[otismotis08]

As long as we're in the top 10 of average star rating, I will be satisfied with recruiting. Still possible?

 

[jflores]

As long as we're in the top 10 of average star rating, I will be satisfied with recruiting. Still possible?

Probably not with a kicker in there. The general argument against an annual Top 10 rating in any sense is that Nebraska is always going to take a flyer or two on guys that just won't rate well nationally. Be it in-state kids like Walker or specialists, or a guy like Graham Roberts.

I think Stanford last year had a class in the teens, with a Top 10 average star rating, but they had at least a few five stars.

 

[bomber89]

why do people keep putting Northwestern as a toss up game. yes under Bo I understand but we ARE FREAKING NEBRASKA and Northwestern should always be a WIN PERIOD. ok, rant over.

 

[DudznSudz]

Yeah, in response to Tuco's post:

Of those 6 games, I think Penn State is a toss-up and I think Ohio State is the only ass-whipping loss on it. Everyone else is perfectly beatable if we play well.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

why do people keep putting Northwestern as a toss up game. yes under Bo I understand but we ARE FREAKING NEBRASKA and Northwestern should always be a WIN PERIOD. ok, rant over.

Because, in the 2017 season, the teams are fairly even. Wishing it wasn't a toss up or screaming we are freaking Nebraska doesn't change that.

They return a huge majority of their offense, and picked up an Oregon transfer at WR. Lost a DB and a LB on defense but most everyone else is back.

 

[DudznSudz]

Because, in the 2017 season, the teams are fairly even. Wishing it wasn't a toss up or screaming we are freaking Nebraska doesn't change that.

They return a huge majority of their offense, and picked up an Oregon transfer at WR. Lost a DB and a LB on defense but most everyone else is back.

^^^ This. ^^^

The thing I would say about Northwestern is, they don't have a lot of talent, but they are extremely well coached. Fitz is a really good guy. So, SHOULD Nebraska beat them regularly? Yeah. But, they're well coached and if we have a crap day, they can win.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I think Fitz gets way too much credit on the national level. He is a decent coach but way too inconsistent. He seems to build up for a one to two year run every 3-4 years. Since 2006 when he took over

4-8
6-6
9-4
8-5
7-6
6-7
10-3
5-7
5-7
10-3
7-6

He is loaded with returners this year so on the surface it looks like the is the peak year.

 

[jflores]

I think Fitz gets way too much credit on the national level. He is a decent coach but way too inconsistent. He seems to build up for a one to two year run every 3-4 years. Since 2006 when he took over

4-8
6-6
9-4
8-5
7-6
6-7
10-3
5-7
5-7
10-3
7-6

He is loaded with returners this year so on the surface it looks like the is the peak year.

So he's the real Ferentz Jr. Take notes Brian.

 

[TruHusker]

Because, in the 2017 season, the teams are fairly even. Wishing it wasn't a toss up or screaming we are freaking Nebraska doesn't change that.

They return a huge majority of their offense, and picked up an Oregon transfer at WR. Lost a DB and a LB on defense but most everyone else is back.

This is what drives me crazy. Looking at teams currently based on how good they were in the past is ignoring the reality of the current situation. Northwestern and Iowa both have a lot of returning players and overall are well coached.

We owned K-State for years, they never even sniffed a victory and then that changed with better coaching but people still think K-State is the same ole K-State when they are not.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

This is what drives me crazy. Looking at teams currently based on how good they were in the past is ignoring the reality of the current situation. Northwestern and Iowa both have a lot of returning players and overall are well coached.

We owned K-State for years, they never even sniffed a victory and then that changed with better coaching but people still think K-State is the same ole K-State when they are not.

Don't confuse what I am saying. I am saying in 2017, just this one year, that this game is a toss up.

Snyder was able to establish a consistency that Fitzgerald has not yet been able to establish.

I don't think Northwestern is any where near the level Kansas St was when Snyder was in his prime.

 

[suhnami]

Iowa is questionable at Qb and Wr - could be a ver rough year in that area.

Nw defense may be its weak spot.