The exception could also be area kids who grew up Husker fans. Haarberg’s a guy some G5 schools would love to have. Hell some B12 schools would probably love to have him in a spread option attack.
Is there something wrong in the locker room, something systemic ?
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Great data A in addition those numbers will spike this year with the inevitable number of entrants. Once the great cut to 105 happens it will stabilize a little bit more - but this year is going to be CRAZY!
It's not a bad idea to not fall in love with talented young players like DR and Jacory.
"Many of us" expect their talent to take them to the NFL in 3 years. But, what happens should either, or both, decide next year to book out of here for greener pastures?
In theory, we could have watched them mature into real difference makers, then when their dominant talent begins to show, they happen to be wearing a different uniform?
I'm not sure how big of a fan I could be if they were wearing an OSU or Michigan uniform.
I certainly could care less how Hausman has been doing at Michigan...
I would guess a large number of that 55% weren’t getting to play, were walk-ons, and/or didn’t really care if they played. Let’s not forget that a large number of kids in the portal aren’t on scholarship.
So, based on the numbers you used in this example:
1,000 kids enter the portal.
Of those 1,000, 550 never find another team to play for;
Of those remaining 450, only 90 become starter level at the new team;
So for every 1,000 portal entries about 90 are good enough to be starters on their new team;
Can you say 0.09 percent?
Seems low.
I think it’s beyond obvious that we lack leadership and it shows up most when times get tough
Rhule’s portal acquisition record is piss poor (putting it kindly)
Now add “these are not my underwear”. Damn man. You do like math! 🙂
But, going forward the raw data has to include all those who enter the portal, then you break it down by who is picked up and if they were/weren't a scholarship players.
That can be farther broken down by having kids who transfer to a lower level school and perhaps go on scholarship at that new school.
There could be an awful lot of numbers to be massaged to get to the reality of entering the portal.
Those kids can stay on one condition: they have cracked the 2-deep. By their 3rd year if they are OL/DL/QB, or by 2nd year for other positions. If they can’t do that, they need to go. No matter where they are from.
Again, what happened to the B1G 4 year scholarship rule? Did the rescind that?
It would be interesting to see how many non-scholarship players enter the portal and how many actually are picked up by another team and placed on scholarship. i.e. I'm talking D1 for D1 not lower level. I bet the number is miniscule, and relatively non-existent.
If they haven’t, they should. It seems it’s being ignored and not enforced. As it should. There are no rules anywhere.
I really don't know how it is now, but in '99 when my son signed with Iowa, those were year-to-year.
Of course, if you stayed in good standing academically it always turned into 4 years.
We’ve had walk-ons get scholarships and start in the FCS. Isaiah Stalbird most noteably. One of our former baseball players is probably going to be the starting QB at one of the Dakota schools next fall. Can’t remember which school right now. Lots of kids though end up coming to grips with the limits of their athletic careers. That’s life.
A few years back the B1G made a big deal about their scholarships being 4 year commitments. Seems like that was a Kevin Warren edict.
True, however, what if, in a couple years the true numbers show a high percentage of D1 kids, both scholarship and non-scholarship that transfer to a lower level have a high percentage of becoming starters or large contributors?
If that's the case, it opens the door to many more kids knowing that moving down in class is not the end of the world, it would become a thing and could be really good for a lot of these kids.
As you say, its better if those kids are honest with themselves. Not much room for a 4.7 RB in D-1, but that type of back can do well at a lower level. I personally know one who went to UNK right out of school, I think holds the all time touchdown record there, had a great career and loved the overall experience.
So really then in theory you can’t just run them off. A kid that has a scholarship and is fine with being a tackling dummy has to be kept on your 105. 🤔
Here’s language from the policy that will help clarify your questions:
Scholarships will be "neither reduced nor cancelled" as long as athletes maintain good standing in school, within the athletic department and in the community. If athletes leave school for "a bona fide reason," they will be allowed to return at a later date to complete their degrees on scholarship.
Translation: feel-good B1G bs not worth the paper it was printed on
A Jim Delany staple when it came to league press
As I stated before, the great unknown is which players leaving were told they won't ever player here and were "asked" to leave and which were going to be counted on and are leaving on their own.
All depends on what your goals were. I turned down small college football offers for an initial partial academic scholarship to NU. Loved football but had no interest in going anywhere but NU. I would have LOVED to walk on but never tried. Had two friends who did. They were tremendous athletes but never played. That was before the 85 scholarship limit and we were 4-5 deep with scholarship guys. I suspect a fair number of our walk-ons will stay at NU and get other scholarship money.
Another unknown is which players are on football scholarship and which are getting NIL.
I’m assuming most of the guys we took on NIL deals after our scholarships were full will convert to scholarships. What a headache in the short term but it should simplify things some in the future. No more stockpiling 40-50 projects.
Also, you need to look at the number of players on the current roster that are RS Jrs and older, 4 years is over for all of those players.
Why would you assume that they would convert to scholarships?
Look no ody was saying this last year when we had guys coming back. There were very few deflections last year in Rhules 1st year.. I was amazed how he had retained alot of the guys after what had happened under Frost. Now they need to get down to 105...hey that's almost a 1/3 of his roster and its all over college football. Times are changing just don't know how they are going to manage this.. not from just a NU standpoint but rather the NCAA?? Contracts will help but man??? Guess we will see
The question then is Delaney’s “policy statement” still in place and is there a penalty for failing to follow it?
Again, they are getting schooling paid for regardless of it is NIL money or scholarship money. 105 is going to be 105
I said I dropped out of school at age 16, I never said I wasn't a good student. LOL
One of my favorite cliches' and a quick story about numbers.
A large firm contracted to hire a top accountant to crunch the numbers for that company. First candidate arrives for the interview with a degree from the finest business school in the country. The CEO asked him one question in the interview process, "How much is 2 + 2?" The candidate said, "4". The CEO said, "We'll get back with you."
The next candidate had impeccable credentials and the CEO asked him, "How much is 2 + 2?" And the guy said "4".
The CEO said, "Thank you, we'll get back with you."
The third candidate arrived, had an average background in accounting.
The CEO asked him, "How much is 2 + 2?"
The candidate got up, walked over to the large window, lowered the shades and said,
"How much do you want it to be?"
The CEO said, "You're hired."
All numbers can be counted, but not all numbers count.
Again, we don't know who was on scholarship and who was receiving NIL equivalent.
Unfortunately so many kids have no idea how good you have to be to play at that D-1 level in sports.
I just think handing out scholarships to non-scholarship players on the team will be a thing of the past, other than a token hand out here and there.
Scholarships are too important to the overall scheme nowadays. What coach doesn't want to have a few scholarships in his back pocket in case they get a call from the right kind of kid they're looking for?
