Is it really possible the Niners didn't know the new OT rules?
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Would not and didn't matter really.
They lost that game for 2 main reasons. Greenlaw getting hurt and then idiotic play calling in the entire 3rd quarter. Shanahan is great but he has periods of time he goes brain dead.
Why the Niners took the ball on offense first, because when you do that you just gave Mahomes 4 downs to work with after every conversion. If the Niners were playing under old rulez...as players have now admitted they thought they were...a TD from SF ends the game in OT.
The 9ers sure have been whiny b1tches throughout the super bowl process... Very bad look for what some consider one of the more historically noteworthy teams of the league.
Sounds like both teams were educated plenty before the game. Nobody's fault but their own if they didn't understand or you, just win outright to avoid ot to begin with lmao.
Just a classic Shanahan 2nd half meltdown, along with a clinic on patient coaching put on by one of the GOATS in Andy Reid!
Sounds like both teams were educated plenty before the game. Nobody's fault but their own if they didn't understand or you, just win outright to avoid ot to begin with lmao.
Just a classic Shanahan 2nd half meltdown, along with a clinic on patient coaching put on by one of the GOATS in Andy Reid!
The commentators explained this though as if strategy by the 9ers. Get the ball first, score any points, then put 4 down pressure on Mahomes and co with even a chance of turnover ending the game.
I just see a strategy that backfired on them 🤷🏻♂️
Greenlaw getting hurt the way he did has to be THE all time most embarrassing injury in the history of the super bowl! I was rofl so freaking hard when I saw how it happened!
The biggest plays by the Chiefs all night (with the exception of that last big gain by Kelce) came by them isolating and abusing that backup linebacker. Probably lose if he hadn't been such a goofball 🤪
Not hard to believe some players not knowing. Very hard to believe the coaches didn't know. Hindsight is 20/20.
But if they thought a TD would end it....thats why they chose to receive. When that did not pan out out...yeah. FG
....and I don't know if the Niners knew. I am only reading an article where several players admitted they did not know...and SF taking the ball to start OT was ao strange, that I have to wonder
They failed to score a TD when it mattered most, and also failed to get a stop when it mattered most. That’s why they lost.
i was discussing with mitturand and he thought anyone who had ever played in an OT in college understood the concept
But the rules are different in college so i'm not sure i'm following that logic
take the ball second(defer) so you know what you have to do.
Exactly...but that isnt what happened. The Niners won the toss...and didn't defer.
In regular season NFL rules if you take the ball first and score a TD the game is over and the other team doesn’t get a chance to answer. So it’s better in regular season to take the ball to start.
And their defense just came off the field. They looked gassed on that last drive in 4th
I think they try to do this because they can’t say “WTF are they doing” on live mics.
i know and now some of them are acting like it's not their fault. it was obvious they didn't understand after winning the toss. too complex i guess?
didn't the ref explain it(in 3rd grade level)?
Even though some players may not have known, Shanahan is saying he did know the rules and wanted the ball first anyway.
His reasoning; if SF scored, then KC tied it, the next score wins so wanting that 3rd overall possession in OT does make sense.
It's a gamble that didn't work out and to me, the decision isn't totally unreasonable.
Yep. CMC getting like 7 yards a carry and you fully abandon the run? That loss is squarely on the head coach for whatever he was trying to do in that 3rd Quarter. They could have ended the game if they just kept running it.
Hmm . I would say the high school play letting a punt hit off your foot. Actually high schoolers don’t even let that happen. Thats some peewee level play
For argument sake let's say, Shanahan didn't know the rules. Do you think he's gonna sit up there after the game and realize his mistake and admit it? Or is he going to say exactly what he said?
Yes this is the explanation I heard too. Not sure I totally agree with it, but I can see where a coach would want the ball first once the OT becomes a Sudden Death situation.
My biggest gripe with Shanahan was not using all four downs in two critical situations - the last drive in regulation and the opening drive of the OT. I believe in both cases, the Niners had 3rd and 4 and they made no effort to get McCaffrey the ball. If you run a sweep or a swing pass and get stuffed for no gain or a loss - fine, kick the FG because you have to get points. But if you get 2-3 yards, you have the option of going for it and keeping a TD in play. In fact, in regulation, you didn't really even need a TD. Just keep the drive alive and kick a FG as the clock expires.
In OT, settling for the FG was just weak as Hell. I would have bet my house that with 4 downs to work with, Mahomes was at least going to match the FG and probably drive for the winning TD. Shanahan needed to look over and see who was on the other sideline, instead of consulting his analytics chart.
It’s always the fault of play calling when you lose. Right? Never seems to matter what play the QB checked in to, what the D is doing and how well the play is executed. Naw
The more I think about it..I find it difficult to believe Kyle didn't know the rules, but then that also means he's an idiot who choked...cause you don't make a conscience decision to give Mahomes an auto 4th down opportunity after every conversion. Classic case of trying to out think the room.
too many "ifs" involved in that reasoning
I think you can argue in college to take the ball first, because you put pressure on the other team to match and there is no advantage to field position. (having four downs to match by going on defense is big here too, but I can see the argument to choose offense)
However in the new NFL playoff format, field position is huge, if you have a turnover or a short punt after a three and out, you are at a huge disadvantage. The potential interception and the holding penalty that avoided the three and out were prime examples of why I think playing defense was the better option. The only plus I see is that you potentially get an extra offensive possession in a game that is won after the first two possessions...since you would essentially score and end the game having had one more possession than the other team after the initial drives...but that is not a significant advantage.
i think he had a game plan and stuck to it despite what he saw with his own eyes.
romo called a great game. pointed out flaws time-after-time including taking the ball first and then kicking the field goal leaving it for patrick to decide, which he did. some of you people consider yourselves good but then somehow miss great. he did an excellent job.
like i said. some of you who think you're good can't seem to grasp great. tony stayed within the game all night. made calls that were shown afterwards to be spot on. few can do that. he did a great job. but i understand these things are in the eye and ear of the beholder.
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