Pointing out to your teammates where the ball is so they don't touch it is now a fair catch signal? I learn something new every week from Big 10 refs
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Horrible fall. Hand has to be overhead. Hawks got screwed
It doesn’t happen often, but I’ve seen the same play blown dead as soon as the return man fields the ball. Doesn’t matter if you wave your arms above your head, shoulder height, or down by your waist - it renders the play dead at the point where the ball is fielded.
If the refs had blown this play dead where DeJean fielded the ball, the call would not even be controversial. What I’m less certain about is whether the rule can be enforced after the fact. That’s the part that is unusual.
I have seen a sideways signal where the return guy just get blasted and the kicking team gets a 15 yard penalty. My question would be what happens when the return guy waves off his own players to get away from the ball and he picks it up a runs. Don’t forget we got screwed over against Minnesota we had a touchdown not giving to us
Had me head scratching....I'd be pissed.
It is not. But waving your other hand, as he was doing, constitutes an invalid fair catch signal and surrenders your right to return the punt.
Regardless, Iowa still had the ball near the 50 with plenty of time to get in FG range.
Correct call. Hand does not have to be overhead. That is an NFL rule.
Ok. What I read online is that it had to be overhead. Is there a difference on NFL vs College on this?
It's like some of you have never watched a college game before...once he waved people off, he can't return it. Letting him return it initially was were the poor officiating occurred. It's pretty common and has been called multiple times before. I was shocked they didn't blow it dead right away.
This is what’s great as this offense blows and the pressure builds. The hospital thing is a desperate ploy to hide what utter garbage Iowa fans are. We‘re going to keep seeing these belches of what they really are.
For a fair catch signal to be valid, the hand has to be waved above the head. In other words, the return man has to wave his hand above his head if he wants the protection that goes with a fair catch signal.
But that's not what's in question here. Any waving of his arms means the punt can no longer be returned. The return man can wave his arms until his blue in the face - nothing illegal about that. But it means the punt can no longer be returned.
Seems like an awful rule. Intent HAS to be involved in a rule where it says “any waving”. As stated above, a five yard return probably doesn’t get reviewed.
They got the call correct. Isn’t that what we all want? I hope this was Iowa’s homecoming game.
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You would think the Hawks of all teams would be professional wavers by now. Maybe Dejean was confused
The rule is there to protect the gunners who, when running full-speed in punt coverage, can’t be expected to determine why the return man is waving his arm around.
That’s why the rule exists, and I agree with it. Should have been enforced in a more timely manner, however.
As I live deep in Hox country, this week is going to be awesome!!!
The fans knew it was over after that call. There was no way I_wa could get 20 yards in 90 seconds to kick a FG.
It sure seems teams are reluctant to hit the ball carrier enough To drive them out of bounds. Minnesota clearly had a chance to drive him out of bounds But laid off
Look, dorks, I know you live on this board so let me help you out.
When your "go to" plays are punting with 2 minutes left at midfield and hoping for a punt return, you are a supporting an asexual program that has held your school hostage for the better part of a quarter century.
You are the girl that is in an abusive relationship but feels like she doesn't deserve better.
When your "go to" plays are punting with 2 minutes left at midfield and hoping for a punt return, you are a supporting an asexual program that has held your school hostage for the better part of a quarter century.
You are the girl that is in an abusive relationship but feels like she doesn't deserve better.
I’ll listening to the Hawkeye radio shows and the call-ins are hilarious! The fan base is now convinced that a call came in from New York to overturn the game…. Hilarious!
I thought I read a stat that he has more touchdowns the past two years than any receiver orTE. He is a stud for sure. He took the punt to the house - thought it was a crap call and had it happened to the Huskers I would have been pissed. But it didn’t and we won today so I’m sleeping good😎
he's taken plenty of INTs back, but believe he only has 1 punt return TD
he's no DeJuan Groce
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You can't use the term "asexual program" until you've accumulated 113 trophy points on this forum. Take a lap and sit in the penalty box for a shift, mmmm'kay?
Not a troll question: Is it time for KF to retire? My opinion: he sacrificed his legacy on the altar of his son's aspirations to become a HC. If I were an Iowa fan I would want Brian gone ASAP and KF to retire this year.
Speaking of KKKurt, the best part of it all, was his smirking at DeJean because he thought he had another sicko win under his belt. I would've loved to see his vitals drop when the ref announced "1st and ten Io_a" -lucky he didn't bleed out.
You have to love the end of the game. Iowa fans have no class. Throwing debris at a college game. Come on Man! That is pretty bad. Love the Punt return called back on a penalty after they thought they had won the game. Then Minnesota almost fails to close out the game after their interception. Big Ten West Football on full display.
They will consume double the normal amount of meth tonight.
Just saw that replay. So good.
I_wa is sitting at 156 points after 8 games. That is 19.5 points per game. With 5 games to go they need to score 169 more points. That is 33.8 points per game. I don't think their D and ST can score that many points.
Like I said yesterday, I can understand Iowa being frustrated with the call. But at some point, they're just making stupid shit up:
(From the Cedar Rapids Gazette)
Cooper DeJean said he was trying to “keep my balance” with his left arm.
“Most people, when they run, their arms do wave,” Ferentz said. “So if you looked at the video, it looked like he was naturally running to the football and then just made a great play.
I mean, why stop there? Maybe throw in something like "I was shooing away a bee" or "I bumped my arm on a desk and now it moves involuntarily."
(From the Cedar Rapids Gazette)
Cooper DeJean said he was trying to “keep my balance” with his left arm.
“Most people, when they run, their arms do wave,” Ferentz said. “So if you looked at the video, it looked like he was naturally running to the football and then just made a great play.
I mean, why stop there? Maybe throw in something like "I was shooing away a bee" or "I bumped my arm on a desk and now it moves involuntarily."
You need to read the rule that has been posted above. A get away signal is an invalid fair catch signal and the ball is dead when caught or downed.
