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I'm not blaming coaches on this..

I was specifically referring to the seniors being scapegoats. Some of the major mess ups were made by seniors yes but it’s been season long on here blaming them for everything by some people.

I'm not blaming them for everything. Like I said I love those guys but at some point their "mojo" kinda runs off on the entire team. I actually kinda believe that might be the case.

Those guys have lost so much that at some point they are expecting it. They can say what they want but I think they don't believe they will win. Just my opinion of course....

So while I don't blame them for everything that mentality will be engrained in them the most due to the fact that they've experienced it the longest.

Is that fair ? Or does it make sense?


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Yes somehow every year, Iowa's players manage to not do so many stupid things when they play us

Iowa has a group of older guys who EXPECT to win and do things that lead to wins because they have done that. Our guys not so much. You think our coaches actually coach the things I mentioned in my OP?

If you can say yes to that then I'll say you aren't being genuine.

These guys arent doing things they need to when it matters the most and it's on them.



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Some of those are big things. Look its impossible to not make mistakes in a game. Every team is going to miss tackles (and our guys did a great job tonight), you are always going to have penalties.

The issue is that the issues we saw tonight are REPEAT ISSUES. Special teams, snapping blunders. Returning kicks when we can't get to the 20...again and again. Failure to run the ball when its working. Clock issues (although that did not directly hurt us, it is bad to see it yet again!). Rinse, wash, repeat.
A lot of times it seems like this team has to be perfect to win against a team of equal talent. We don't have guys that can go the distance anywhere on the field. We don't have guys that are just nightmares for opposing DCs to defend. The one time we did in the past ten years, Trey Palmer lit them up.
 
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A lot of times it seems like this team has to be perfect to win against a team of equal talent. We don't have guys that can go the distance anywhere on the field. We don't have guys that are just nightmares for opposing DCs to defend. The one time we did in the past ten years, Trey Palmer lit them up.
I don't know how anyone can watch this game and think we have equal talent of Iowa.
 
Nearly identical to last year's game. At best, NU is going to move into position for a FG attempt to win the game in the final minute; at worst, the game is going to OT. Instead, NU turns it over in the final seconds and puts Iowa in FG range. If that play in an incompletion of a gain a just a few yards, the game does to OT. Just unreal how we **** things up like that, over and over again.
 
But it’s not just seniors that don’t make plays. The most obvious one is #15 on the offense he is turning out to be Adrian Martinez….guaranteed turnover with the game on the line. Hope Danny Kaelin can show up and push #15 to be better if he wants to keep he starting job.
A better QB
#15 is performing like Adrian Martinez did in crunch time….pi$$ it away with a turnover
Lol

We haven’t had a QB win 6 games in the previous 7 seasons and yet you are determined to make him the reason for our woes.

Maybe take a break before your next post berating a kid who gave up a fumble when hit from the blind side.

What a tool.
 
I’ll say it again, the success or failure of a football team is a direct reflection of their leadership. Rhule is NOT the answer, but if people need to endure a few more years of failure before a change is made then so be it.
This was a game where a veteran QB wins you the game. Say what we want about Iowa’s walk on QB, he didn’t have any turnovers. Their All American RB made the play he had to make as well.
 
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Lol

We haven’t had a QB win 6 games in the previous 7 seasons and yet you are determined to make him the reason for our woes.

Maybe take a break before your next post berating a kid who gave up a fumble when hit from the blind side.

What a tool.
My concern is that it wasn’t just tonight….USC UCLA Illinos Ohio State every time he had a chance to win a game he played like Adrian Martinez.
 
Lol

We haven’t had a QB win 6 games in the previous 7 seasons and yet you are determined to make him the reason for our woes.

Maybe take a break before your next post berating a kid who gave up a fumble when hit from the blind side.

What a tool.
Team loss. Whole team. I have to rewatch the video to see which one of our own guys came flying in to knock our tackler off Johnson. Killer.
 
Iowa has a group of older guys who EXPECT to win and do things that lead to wins because they have done that. Our guys not so much. You think our coaches actually coach the things I mentioned in my OP?

If you can say yes to that then I'll say you aren't being genuine.

These guys arent doing things they need to when it matters the most and it's on them.



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So why are we paying Rhule $74 million, then? If he has no effect on the team after 2 years as head coach? We might as well have just hired the coach from Norfolk Catholic High School then, and spent all the money on NIL.
 
My concern is that it wasn’t just tonight….USC UCLA Illinos Ohio State every time he had a chance to win a game he played like Adrian Martinez.
And in 3 of those 4 games he had Satt as an OC. If you couldn’t see a difference between the effect Satt and Holgorsen had on him, that’s on you. He definitely looked much better these last 3 games. He’s just a freshman who learned a ton from this season.

If he does the same stuff next season, have at it.
 
I refuse. Just like they have been saying players gotta make the damn plays. IGC needs to catch the punt. Benhardt needs to make the block. Neyor needs to catch the ball. Snapper needs to make a good snap Bullock needs to tackle Johnson.

You wanna add Raiola and Shavers fine but If the guys who they are dependent on do their jobs Shavers or Raiola doesn't have to make those plays.

Nah this ain't coaches ...This is on a group of upperclassmen who I appreciate and love and am super happy that they will be gone.



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Agree. Finding ways to lose to Iowa was a trademark at Nebraska before Rhule and Co showed up. That continuity just needs to move on. It should get better after this year when the bed $hitters graduate!
 
Team loss. Whole team. I have to rewatch the video to see which one of our own guys came flying in to knock our tackler off Johnson. Killer.
Totally agree. First off, why Bullock didn’t latch on to him, I have no idea. But he was definitely knocked off by one of our guys (didn’t see who it was either).

My issue is Zeke blaming Raiola for this and already wanting to be rid of Raiola.
 
Iowa has a better RB, DBs, and LBs. OLs are about equal. We have a better DL and our QB throws better. Receivers are about equal. They are better in special teams.
I didn't say they weren't better in some places. I said we have better talent essentially everywhere.
 
So why are we paying Rhule $74 million, then? If he has no effect on the team after 2 years as head coach? We might as well have just hired the coach from Norfolk Catholic High School then, and spent all the money on NIL.
He was hired IMO in large part because of his recruiting and organizational skills. He’s recruited very well IMO. ONE more play by ONE guy and we have 4 more wins. That’s all it is. FOUR more freaking plays and we’re a 10 win team. Talent wise in the trenches we were NEVER this good under Frost. FOUR more plays. Sooo nauseating.
 
Iowa has a better RB, DBs, and LBs. OLs are about equal. We have a better DL and our QB throws better. Receivers are about equal. They are better in special teams.
Their O line blows. They couldn’t do sh##. Our WRs are better. Their DBs were tackling our WRs on their breaks.
 
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And in 3 of those 4 games he had Satt as an OC. If you couldn’t see a difference between the effect Satt and Holgorsen had on him, that’s on you. He definitely looked much better these last 3 games. He’s just a freshman who learned a ton from this season.

If he does the same stuff next season, have at it.
I’ll give him once chance with the game on the line next season
 
Maybe we should try playing drunk? Cocaine? Gotta get these guys to play loose in big games. This program is wound so tight they’re gonna shit out a diamond one of these days.
 
My concern is that it wasn’t just tonight….USC UCLA Illinos Ohio State every time he had a chance to win a game he played like Adrian Martinez.
I liked Adrian Martinez. He just wasn't able to deliver in big moments. But a lot of that was the OL too. It was atrocious when he was here. The OL has improved.
 
YEP.

Dana has been a good thing for us overall, but that just makes it even worse when we stop doing whats working yet again.
Bad habits show up at the worst of times. They’ve had snapping issues most of the year. And our return game has been non existent. Where did he, IGC, attempt to field that ball by the way? It seemed inside the 10 to me
That’s coaching and should go over that prior to the play on the field
I do blame Foley for a lot of the ST miscues this year and we lost the Illinois game bc of bad special teams also
 
Iowa has a group of older guys who EXPECT to win and do things that lead to wins because they have done that. Our guys not so much. You think our coaches actually coach the things I mentioned in my OP?

If you can say yes to that then I'll say you aren't being genuine.

These guys arent doing things they need to when it matters the most and it's on them.



Holla
You could see in Ferentz face that had no worries when they were down 10. He knew deep in his soul we’d **** up a punt or turn it over. He knew it just like we all knew it.
 
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Bad habits show up at the worst of times. They’ve had snapping issues most of the year. And our return game has been non existent. Where did he, IGC, attempt to field that ball by the way? It seemed inside the 10 to me
That’s coaching and should go over that prior to the play on the field
I do blame Foley for a lot of the ST miscues this year and we lost the Illinois game bc of bad special teams also
Current punt catch rules of thumb is you catch anything outside the 5😕. The problem was he came running at it and our guys thought he had muffed it and he hadn’t.
 
Bad habits show up at the worst of times. They’ve had snapping issues most of the year. And our return game has been non existent. Where did he, IGC, attempt to field that ball by the way? It seemed inside the 10 to me
That’s coaching and should go over that prior to the play on the field
I do blame Foley for a lot of the ST miscues this year and we lost the Illinois game bc of bad special teams also
100% right. When people are in stressful situations they revert to their worst tendencies. It takes a lot of work and practice to overcome bad habits. We should be able to miss a FG and still win though.
 
Bad habits show up at the worst of times. They’ve had snapping issues most of the year. And our return game has been non existent. Where did he, IGC, attempt to field that ball by the way? It seemed inside the 10 to me
That’s coaching and should go over that prior to the play on the field
I do blame Foley for a lot of the ST miscues this year and we lost the Illinois game bc of bad special teams also
we have fielded punts at or inside the 5 this year before and it was never corrected. wonder what theyre coached.
 
Current punt catch rules of thumb is you catch anything outside the 5😕. The problem was he came running at it and our guys thought he had muffed it and he hadn’t.
Maybe that’s not a good rule of thumb. A couple things on that is that I never saw him wave anyone off or communicate. Who is surprised that Iowa knocked that inside the five? I sure as hell am not, he seemed totally unprepared on how to handle that or field/communicate. Sadly these two teams are worlds apart in that third phase and it shouldn’t continue
 
Iowa has a group of older guys who EXPECT to win and do things that lead to wins because they have done that. Our guys not so much. You think our coaches actually coach the things I mentioned in my OP?

If you can say yes to that then I'll say you aren't being genuine.

These guys arent doing things they need to when it matters the most and it's on them.



Holla
They gotta coach those things out of them. That’s part of the job.
 
If we aren’t going to blame the coaches, who should we blame? Deion blamed the players, and he is 9-3 coming off a 52-0 season-capping win. When did we last beat anybody 52-0? Perhaps we should blame the coaches for not blaming the players.
 
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I refuse. Just like they have been saying players gotta make the damn plays. IGC needs to catch the punt. Benhardt needs to make the block. Neyor needs to catch the ball. Snapper needs to make a good snap Bullock needs to tackle Johnson.

You wanna add Raiola and Shavers fine but If the guys who they are dependent on do their jobs Shavers or Raiola doesn't have to make those plays.

Nah this ain't coaches ...This is on a group of upperclassmen who I appreciate and love and am super happy that they will be gone.



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Players have to make the plays, and when it came down to crunch time, they didin't, just like the other five losses.
 
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