If you think we can get at least 10 wins in the regular season...
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The kool-aid I'm drinking is for the overall transition of the program over the next few years. The thought of a 10-win season in the first year would be a nice surprised but I'm more anxious to see how we play and how we react to adversity more so than actual wins this year.
Can't give a hell yeah just yet.
Can't give a hell yeah just yet.
We have a 7 year streak of 9+ wins already. Our schedule isn't that tough. Minimize the stupid, self-inflicted mistakes and of course it should be possible. It would be surprising not to get to 10 wins in that scenario.
I don't want to piss on anyone's parade here, but the last couple of years 1st year coaches have not done well on improving from the record of the previous season. Especially if the team had a winning record the previous season. The one major case that deviates from that trend is Auburn in 2013. Malzahn took over a 3-9 team and got them to at 12-2 record and the National Championship game.
In 2014 all of the first year coaches at power 5 conference teams did not improve on the previous season win total. In 2013 there were 13 1st year coaches at power 5 conference teams of those only 4 improved on the previous season record
Auburn 3-9 (12) to 12-2 (13)
Wisconsin 8-6 (12) to 9-4 (13)
Boston College 2-10(12) to 7-6 (13)
Colorado 1-11 (12) to 4-8 (13)
In 2014 all of the first year coaches at power 5 conference teams did not improve on the previous season win total. In 2013 there were 13 1st year coaches at power 5 conference teams of those only 4 improved on the previous season record
Auburn 3-9 (12) to 12-2 (13)
Wisconsin 8-6 (12) to 9-4 (13)
Boston College 2-10(12) to 7-6 (13)
Colorado 1-11 (12) to 4-8 (13)
Did you see the records of all those '12 teams? That illustrates why those coaches were fired. . Mike Riley inherits a team which won 9 games including 10 players who have started games on defense and 8 players who have started games offensively.
Riley doesnt have a full rebuild. Secondly, all the c teams above improved because of experience. Nebraska has some inexperience depth at LB abd DE. But more than 70% of this roster has been in Lincoln at least 2 seasons.
There you again. Confusing the masses with facts and logic. Can't you just keep it stupid like most of the rest of us.
Eh, I don't feel like those other situations have a lot to do with our team. IMO it was clear the last few years that NU's problem was wearing a headset on the sidelines. Are we certain to see a better record this year? Maybe not, with new schemes and ways of doing things. But we are certainly closer today to a conference championship than we were last November, IMO.
Transition year no way. We will be lucky to win 8 games. I don't get where we are just going to win 9 or 10 games this season. This talk is crazy and laughable.
I don't mean that we'll win the conference championship this year (though I think it's possible). I'm just saying it was NEVER going to happen under BP, and so the program is closer to the championship today under new leadership.
It doesn't matter why there is a new coach, fired or took a new job, most of the time the following year sees the record go down here is how it has played out the last two years!
COACHING CHANGES IN 2013
Team 2012 record 2013 record 2014 record
Auburn 3-9 12-2 8-4
Arkansas 4-8 3-9 6-6
Tennessee 5-7 5--7 6-6
Kentucky 2-10 2-10 5-7
Wisconsin 8-6 9-4 11-3
Purdue 6-7 1-11 3-9
Syracuse 8-5 7-6 3-9
NC State 7-6 3-9 7-5
Boston College 2-10 7-6 7-5
Colorado 1-11 4-8 2-10
Oregon 12-1 11-2 11-2
Cal 3-9 1-11 5-7
Texas Tech 8-5 8-5 4-8
NON Power 5 team
Team 2012 record 2013 record 2014 record
Cincinnati 10-3 9-4 8-3
So. Florida 3-9 2-10 4-8
Utah St. 11-2 9-5 9-4
Nevada 7-6 4-8 7-5
San Jose St 11-2 6-6 3-9
NIU 12-2 12-2 10-2
W. Michigan 4-8 1-11 8-4
Kent St. 11-3 4-8 2-9
FIU 3-9 1-11 4-8
La Tech 9-3 4-8 8-4
So Miss 0-12 1-11 3-9
UTEP 3-9 2-10 7-5
Idaho 1-11 1-11 1-10
COACHING CHANGES IN 2014
Team 2013 record 2014 record
Penn State 7-5 7-6
Washington 9-4 8-6
Vanderbilt 9-4 3-9
Louisville 12-1 9-4
Texas 8-5 6-7
Wake Forest 4-8 3-9
USC 10-4 9-4
NON POWER 5
Bowling Green 10-4 8-6
Wyoming 5-7 4-8
Army 3-9 4-7
Ga. Southern 7-4 9-3
FAU 6-6 3-9
Boise St. 8-5 12-2
Miami OH 0-12 2-10
E. Michigan 2-10 2-10
UAB 2-10 6-6
UMass 1-11 3-9
UConn 3-9 2-10
W. Kentucky 8-4 8-5
Ark St 8-5 7-6
Tell me what you see! Of all of these team I would say situation-wise Nebraska would probably resemble either Washington or Texas of last year or NC State 2013.
And i bet Urban Meyer is a lot less confident facing a Husker team coached by Riley then Bo.
Texas has always underachieved. Comparing us to Washington is laughable. We're Nebraska!
NC State... get real!
I was talking about at what stage those programs were at when they made a coaching change. Texas and Washington had similar records to what Nebraska had when they got rid of Bo. NC State had a coach that was winning OK but was not able to get them over the hump. Also last time Nebraska played Washington in the Holiday bowl they boat raced us.
Take it for what is is worth.
While I see what you are saying regarding the records, I don't think those situations are even remotely similar. Let's look at the teams you mentioned.
Washington's coach wasn't fired, he was hired away. Odds are he was a good coach as his former team's record suffered the following year despite the fact that Washington brought in Chris Petersen who is highly regarded. Nebraska's coach was fired, for reasons I think were right there on display on Saturdays (emotional problems notwithstanding).
Texas' coach was fired like ours was. The difference here is what problem each program was having. In Texas the problem was the player's sense of entitlement and lack of competitive fire. Sure that situation exists because of the coach, but that doesn't get cleaned up just from firing the coach. That's gonna take years to clean up.
Nebraska's problem was Pelini's stubbornness and ego. No way two teams with similar rosters square off should one team go for 581 yards rushing (with one back doing 408 yards in 3 qrtrs!), and yet it happened on BP's watch. The lack of defensive adjustments seemed to say "We'll if we'd just execute my defense this wouldn't be happening!" Guess what Bo, we weren't executing your D the way you like. It's your job to figure out how to adjust so your team doesn't suffer a historic epic rushing beat down while you lament our lack of execution! THAT problem can be fixed by firing the coach, and is one of the reasons I am so optimistic.
As for NC State, I don't know much about them, so I can't comment there...
Time to come out of your bubble, red. Husker's have done squat since before Solich was canned. This is NOT your father's Husker team.
Gotta love your unbridled, though misguided enthusiasm.
Were a Blue Blood original. Have you seen our stadium lately??? The Vatican doesn't have anything on us! We have such a special place that even Bo won a lot of games riding our coattails.
God love Frank but his record at Ohio is 72-56. His record at Nebraska was 58-19. Nebraska made his numbers hall worthy. Kind of like Mr. Pellllini.
THIS !!! So your detractors wanted status quo? N and support staff was making " BO" ; you and a few others were trying to speak about the coach; and be understood in your support of the program. Had to be frustrating as heck - still inborn trolls however.
It was like watching family get brainwashed by some cult leader and his cronies. Glad it's over!
I think it's possible for us to win 10 games this year. I think we'll have a better idea of how our team can perform after the BYU game is over. My view is the worst our team should perform this year is in the first game (not a big leap for that view). There's always the possibility that key personnel get injured, the team gives up, etc, but you can't predict that kind of stuff.
If I ask myself WHO, on paper, should beat us. The only team that comes to mind is MSU, and they've never really "scared" us. Wisconsin should be coin toss. Miami and Minnesota are away games, but we shouldn't be losing to them. Games aren't "played on paper" though, but that's what makes it interesting. Too many uncertainties for me to predict 10 wins, but it's possible.
If I ask myself WHO, on paper, should beat us. The only team that comes to mind is MSU, and they've never really "scared" us. Wisconsin should be coin toss. Miami and Minnesota are away games, but we shouldn't be losing to them. Games aren't "played on paper" though, but that's what makes it interesting. Too many uncertainties for me to predict 10 wins, but it's possible.
This is what you get when Huskers fans are drinking way too much Husker Kool-Aid, they won't win 10 games this season, the Huskers will be lucky to win 5 games!!!!!
This is based on reading OWH Husker articles........
