Please fvck off and stop responding to my post. I’m here to talk football not engage in your bullshit.
Huskers return home as 7 favorite over UCLA
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Please fvck off and stop responding to my post. I’m here to talk football not engage in your bullshit.
Pleas try to learn something, anything about football before you move on to your next screen name. Your ignorance is just sad.
Now I’m going to do something I’ve never done in my 20+ years on this board and put you on ignore because every single interaction with you is a giant waste of time.
Hartzog OUT this weekend
Jeremiah Charles getting his first start in the secondary
line down to NU -6
Jeremiah Charles getting his first start in the secondary
line down to NU -6
I heard that last sentence like Morgan Freeman was reading it out loud. 👍
Still early enough in the week for the line to move.
Their first play went for,I believe,38 yards.I don't know if it was a blown coverage but that one really hurt.
Sounds good but only exceptional people operate that way. But coaching, player leadership and all of that stuff can make a difference. I think this version of the Huskers is better at that than previous staffs. The Huskers are a little more consistent.
I really like this post and I agree with your assessment. Too many people on here revert to saying a guy is either fantastic or total garbage. In reality, coaching or about anything else is more like a bell curve. 10% of play callers are gifted, another 20% is good, 40% is average, 20% not so good (needs superior talent), and the bottom 10% awful.
Where do you think Satt ranks?
Run vertically- yes. And do it after taking the snap from under center. Make the defensive line actually be concerned about a back sprinting straight at them with momentum rather than a back standing still at the time of the fake hand off, four yards behind the line of scrimmage.
Keep running Haarberg into the game but have him take 80% of his snaps at WR or at RB. Then direct snap it to him at RB once or move him to QB and actually have him pass the ball. Seems like when Haarberg comes into the game, teams know its a QB keep.
That's what I've been thinking. Everything lined up perfectly for NU to pull off the upset and we didn't do it. Instead, Ohio State got one of those "wins" that really felt more like a "loss" to them. I didn't want to say it but that's entirely true. So now this program still needs that break through win. I think winning in any fashion against UCLA followed up by a win against USC would work.
Great post. I still think this program (NU) looks past opponents or takes them too lightly. So inexplicably, NU probably has some guys taking UCLA more lightly than Ohio State. I think the result at Indiana was in part the result of taking Indiana too lightly and looking ahead to Ohio State. It's part of what losing programs just do. Makes no sense. Matt Rhule said after Ohio State that he better play that good or better against UCLA. He's laying it out there. Hopefully, this team can shed some of that loser mentality on Saturday.
I’d say not so good. Last year we said it was QB talent level causing issues, this year it’s WR and honestly RB abilities that are questionable….meaning they don’t have enough talent. Now maybe if we had superior talent there things would still be the same, making him “awful” . At best he’s not so good
The stats don't lie. But I'll just say that Lincoln Riley hasn't exactly been coaching at lower level programs. OU in the Big 12 and USC. I think there are several better head coaches than Riley who have losing records against him. Rhule might be one of them.
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I will believe that when I see Rhule beat him, hopefully this year.
And hopefully we pound Minnesota next time we see them as well.
Rhule also gets outcoached frequently in losses. At some point, you have to believe people when they show you who they are.
But those "stats" absolutely do. Fleck is 0-3 against Bert, 0-1 against Walters, 0-1 against the coach from NW. Do those "stats" prove anything? No, but probably more than comparing records against a random coach at two different schools.
And using Fleck's total career win %, when he has stayed at a school for 8 years, and comparing it to a guy that has never stayed anywhere more than 4 is also stupid. Fleck inherited a consistent 8-win team and kept them there, good for him, but that isn't exactly a tall task. Imagine what Rhule's win % would be by now if he had stayed at Baylor.
The idea that PJ Fleck is "out coaching" anyone would only be spewed by someone that doesn't know a thing about football, has an agenda, or both.
-stats are easily manipulated to tell the story you want to tell
-winning pct matters, but so does the starting point.
-It is easier for an average coach to maintain 8-9 wins a year when you take over a program that is winning 8 or so wins per game, ie Pelini regardless of what school it is.
I’m not a fan of comparative scores but theirs are pretty consistent. They’ve been getting better as the season has gone on.
Matt Rhule year 2-4
49-25 66.2%
Fleck after year 2 at his 2 stops
79-41 - 65.8
See I can make Rhule's winning % better than Fleck's by simply taking away the first year of their stops.
Fleck took over a 4 win team at Western Michigan and guided them to a 1 win season, and took over a 9 win team at Minnesota and led them to 5 wins.
Rhule took over 4 win team and led them to 2 wins at Temple, a decimated 7 win team at Baylor and they won 1 in his first year, and took over a 4 win team and led them to 5 wins the next season.
Very similar paths, very similar results
Overall winning % is not manipulation, it’s the complete opposite, in fact.
sure, but not near as much. Tell that to Curt Cignetti.
Aren’t you tired of the “it’s not (insert every coach the past decade)’s fault, look at what he started with” cope? Such a loser mentality.
We know you only have half, thanks for clarifying
Career win % is always a relevant statistic. Even when it doesn’t fit your narrative.
The point was that I can find a stat that can tell whatever story I want. As I did when I used the Rhule and Fleck winning % after 1 year.
Curt Cignetti has a 1 year history in P4 football. He is the exception to the rule. Let's see what he does in subsequent years with his 50th ranked recruiting classes and he doesn't have multiple 1 years transfers in his program.
I am not tired of that point. IF a coach takes over a losing program and in 2 seasons the program is winning games and making bowl games and competing for conference titles in year 3 then that is more impressive than taking over a program that won 9 games and maintain 9 wins.
If the curve is applied to all FBS OCs, he is probably at least average, maybe good. If applied just to P4 OCs, then not so good.
That is fine for you to believe, but once you start adding conditions, your argument becomes weak to any serious person.
Credit card companies, insurance companies, potential employers, etc are going to look at your overall body of work, not cherry pick a couple years of your history. And there’s a reason they make money doing so.
Again, you should believe people when they show you who you are, but allow the grace of an open mind for them to prove you different.
My narrative? Sure it can be a relevant statistic. I am just pointing out a lot of missing context, which is being dismissed to fit an agenda, just like cherry-picking stats like record against Coach A.
PJ Fleck went to a program that had been winning 8 games a year and has continued to win at that clip. Matt Rhule has built up two programs and then left. He didn't stick around to continue racking up winning seasons, like Fleck did (not that Fleck hasn't tried to get out of Minnesota). Wouldn't Matt Rhule's record look a lot different had he just stayed at Baylor or Temple?
I just don't see Fleck continuing to win at the same clip as his predecessors as being that impressive. I tend to agree with Tuco when he said:
IF a coach takes over a losing program and in 2 seasons the program is winning games and making bowl games and competing for conference titles in year 3 then that is more impressive than taking over a program that won 9 games and maintain 9 wins.
It's not Rhule - he just hates Fleck with a white-hot passion unmatched outside of the Holy Lands! LOL - I like @headcard great poster, but he gets fired up whenever I mention that Fleck is a decent coach!
It's true, I absolutely believe PJ Fleck is an overrated ass clown. (and fwiw, the poster you are replying to is a re-tread troll).
We're all good! And... I really haven't been able to decide about him.
Because that is so easy, right?
Big IF on whether Rhule will do that here.
And when you choose to never stay at a job for more than 4 years, at some point you don’t get to use that as an excuse for why your career win % isn’t better.
But Rhule isn't involved in the discussion and not using it as an excuse. That is the fans of the team.
I think it is a heck of a lot easier than building a program. Frank Solcih won over 75% of his games at Nebraska. But Nick Saban only won 58% of his games while turning around MSU and Jim Harbaugh only won 58% of his games turning around Stanford.
True, but he has done it at two different schools. And since he's been here, he is winning at the same clip as Little PJ over the same time, who is the coach being propped up in this thread, and PJ has been at Minnesota for 8 years.
I don't think he is using any excuse or would care at all about this discussion, but it is still the reality of the situation.
Line back up to -7.
Now we’re back on track on the thread.
Now we’re back on track on the thread.
The same assessment is given to troll accounts on the board...
Line back up to -7.
Now we’re back on track on the thread.
Sounds silly on the surface but it still makes me feel better 🤣 Usually means the professional gamblers “sharps” are buying up the smaller number late. Which is often a good sign if you’re the favorite.
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