Hoops - NCAA Tourney Odds
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My take is a 3-4 favorite this Sunday vs. Ohio State. After we shit in our mess kit at home against Rutgers and USC the wise guys in the desert setting the line are not going to put the line laying too big a number. Plus we are not considered an offensive juggernaut to being laying a fair amount of points to a quality team.
4-7 point favorites is too high. Your'e close on the bottom end of that. I would think Huskers by 2 or 2.5 points.
Only the B1G would schedule basketball games on Super Bowl Sunday
Oregon would get a nice NET bump if they can keep this lead at Michigan State.
Wouldn't mind seeing crybaby Izzo drop his third straight.
Wouldn't mind seeing crybaby Izzo drop his third straight.
Well, Oregon pretty much pissed that away in the blink of an eye. I said to myself… “Survive that 1st run by Michigan St, get to the 15:00 mark with double digit lead and they have good chance.” So much for that. 🫤
As I thought, a tight line. Huskers -1 Ohio State has had some up's and down's as most every team has but when they are on they are tough.
Creighton beating #11 Marquette won’t hurt
Only place I could find a line has us at -1.5 (sportsline and fanduel) Thought we’d be at least -3. Probably move a little bit, but it won’t get to 3 or 4. Might settle at -2.5 before game time. OSU also has a huge fan base that can bet a line down, if it doesn’t move in OSU’s favor that’s a good sign for us.
Big game tomorrow. Win and Nebraska puts themselves into a position to pull away from the lower half of the conference.
For what it’s worth, Oklahoma State played Arizona State yesterday.
I hate the Big 12. Losers.
According to chatgpt
As of the 2024-25 NCAA men's basketball season, there is no record of a team with 6 Quadrant 1 (Q1) wins being excluded from the NCAA Tournament. Teams with such a number of Q1 victories have historically secured tournament bids
A win over Maryland, Michigan or @Ohio St will give us 6. That should lock us in, but the basketball people like to s*** on us. You know like going 22-9 overall & 13-5 in Big 10 play & drawing the 5 seed in the NIT
As of the 2024-25 NCAA men's basketball season, there is no record of a team with 6 Quadrant 1 (Q1) wins being excluded from the NCAA Tournament. Teams with such a number of Q1 victories have historically secured tournament bids
A win over Maryland, Michigan or @Ohio St will give us 6. That should lock us in, but the basketball people like to s*** on us. You know like going 22-9 overall & 13-5 in Big 10 play & drawing the 5 seed in the NIT
We have about 4 maybe 5 more quad 1 opponents. Be pretty surprised if we can’t get at least 2 of those. That would be 7 quad 1 wins and would really force the committee to break precedence to screw us.
I have been enjoying Big 12 after dark immensely this year
Best hoops conference in the country, IMO, with 4 teams capable of cutting down the nets this season
Nebraska is of course the lowest ranked team in the NET rankings with 5 Q1 wins. Someone needs to explain to me how North Carolina at 14-10 with a record of 1-9 in Q1 games is ranked ahead of Nebraska. There are actually a lot of teams ranked ahead of us with worse records and very few Q1 wins. 13 of Boise State's 16 wins are Q3/Q4 wins, they have only 2 Q1 wins but are ranked ahead of us.
Man they won another game. This little win streak must be driving you crazy. I’m sorry that there wins hurt you so muchBecause they are better teams?
74-63 @ home hurts doesn't itBecause they are better teams?
IM4NUalways... unless they are the basketball team? Might want adjust your screen name toBecause they are better teams?
IM4NUunlessfacingcreightoninbball
or
IM4NUinthefall
or
IM4NUifitsuitsme
this is the only metric you need
an aside:
I have no clue why Ken Pomeroy made his proprietary formula public before becoming a billionaire and being banned from every sportsbook on the planet with it.
Listen
BYU
Pittsburg
North Carolina
Vanderbilt
Arkansas
SMU
Boise State
Texas
Georgia
Gonzaga
Cincinnati
There are a few more that I feel NU should be ahead of, but those 11 have no business being ahead of Nebraska in any metric IMO
zags are 13 in Kenpom
they don't belong on this list
don't disagree with the others - only BYU, UGA and UT are ahead of NU in kenpom (all very slightly), and each is driven by playing in a better conference
Gonzaga is 2-6 in Quad 1's and 3-1 in Quad 2's with an 18-7 record playing in the WCC
They should not be 26 spots ahead of a team that is 5-6 in Quad 1's and 3-2 in Quad 2's with a 16-8 record playing in the Big 10
You could argue they could be a little ahead I suppose, but their resume is not 26 spots better than Nebraska... Not even close
Also the Big 10 is a better conference than the Big 12... so BYU is not being driven by a better conference
I think kenpom is much more accurate overall. But Gonzaga at 13 really jumps out to me as a head scratcher.
It is based on preseason seeding... this also what drives me nuts about kenpom, massey, torvik, BPI, NET etc... they have a base model based upon preseason predictions. That is why I love RPI... I wish there was one that was RPI, but add some of the metrics NET has. That would be ideal
I think Nebraska should be somewhere between 30 and 40... not 40 and 50
top 10 offense, top 50 defense
23rd toughest non-con in the country compared to 248th for us
Look I want them to win and am happy when they do. I just get sick of the same ending over and over. Its Groundhog Day at best. Maybe this year it will not be.
If Fred gets in the NCAA and wins a real game, not a play in game, keep him. If not get gone.
That is because they are whoopin the likes of Portland and Pacific
All I care about is Nebraska beat Ohio St and it's time to move on. They are getting some recognition (front page of ESPN Men's Basketball) which is cool for now. But I agree, Nebraska is probably better than several teams in front of them but who the F--K cares because it won't matter if they drop 5 of their next 7 games.
And it would be so easy to fix, but they want to run out metrics before the 1st games are played. They could hold off releasing the 1st round of metrics until everyone has played 10 games. The metrics would likely be more accurate, in theory, but they’d also be diminishing their own relevance, influence and bottom line.
this is my least favorite thing about college football, by far
there should be no rankings until October 1st at the earliest.
Based on
1. More teams in the Tournament
2. Alabama is 1-2 against the Big 10
3. Bracketologists.com
4. Warren Nolan.com
5. TeamRankings.com
6. ESPN
7. Torvik
8. Massey
Forgot and Conference overall record
Big 10 = 160-37
Big 12 = 132-40
IMO (fwiw) the conferences are too close to call right now. Both B1G and Big XII are very good and deep. March will tell us who’s better in the end, wouldn’t shock me at all if Big XII ends up being 1st/2nd best conference overall. As of now…
1) SEC. And it’s pretty definitive right now, March can change that though.
2) B1G/Big XII. Too close to call right now. Both are deep, talented and Physical.
4) Big East. Very talented and very physical but not as deep as the B1G and Big XII.
5) ACC. Tough decision between the ACC and Big East. ACC is talented and probably a little deeper than the Big East, but I think the top teams in the Big East are more physical.
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Been saying this for years. Too much money to be made and too much hype to be peddled by the media. Plus it gives the media/polls a chance to shape the rankings from go. Media puts 8 teams from the same conference in the top 15 it almost makes it impossible for half of those teams to ever drop out of the top 15.
And I don’t really care what conference it benefits. Been mostly the SEC in the past 10–15 years. Will probably greatly benefit the B1G going forward with the expanded playoff field. Don’t care. They shouldn’t rank anyone until weeks 4-6.
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