Hmmmmm...Run pass ratios of good teams
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Teams with a shot at championships run the ball far more often than they pass it...they don't strive for balance.
I don't our run/pass ratio, but if you look at those above teams most of them employ somewhat of a power run game...So for OCDL to ever say we are balanced it's like saying I'm only five foot tall and can easily dunk a basketball.
We threw more passes than runs this year. Plus, as Marine mentioned all of the teams above us tend to employ a power run scheme. They don't spend a lot of time running sideways.
I think most of us would rather see a long sustained drive that eats the clock........part of the problem this year, especially at crucial times during the game, all we needed was just one yard and the game was over......well, you know the rest of the story.
I'm keeping positive, however, HCMR and OCDL MUST understand that their passing game is just fine, it's the running game that needs fixed so you can make those fourth and one's.......
I'm keeping positive, however, HCMR and OCDL MUST understand that their passing game is just fine, it's the running game that needs fixed so you can make those fourth and one's.......
What was the % without including the 4th quarter, for example, when most of those teams likely were running the ball to grind down the clock? Compared to teams like NU who had to pass more to get back into games.
Marine, I think we did pretty well on the 3rd and 4th down plays when we ran our big people. On third and fourth down runs Cross and Jano were each only stopped one time all season. We showed we could load it up and run right at people in those situations. The problem was our OC became pass happy during far too many of those situations. Why would you not try something that worked 90% of the time?
Once again...the identity of these teams is that they have a power run game. I am doubtful they were pass happy teams until the 4th quarter.
I didn't say they were pass happy teams. I asked what their % is without the 4th quarter.
winner winner! Agreed....That's why I made comment about the run game thinking might need to be retooled a little bit. Should have stuck with Cross and Jano until they stopped it completely. Either way, on to next year and hoping this was a learning tool for the coaches.
We were pretty much 50/50 which that's where you want to be. Unfortunately when you average just over 2 ypc going into the 4th down by a couple scores running the ball will not get it done, so we had to pass to get back into the game.
Also, how many of those teams were up big on people and ran to run the clock out? So many things to take into consideration. We opened the Iowa game with 9 straight runs, we just haven't been consistent enough in our run game this year.
Also, how many of those teams were up big on people and ran to run the clock out? So many things to take into consideration. We opened the Iowa game with 9 straight runs, we just haven't been consistent enough in our run game this year.
I love the, "I don't like these stats so let's start nit picking at them." It is highly doubtful that any of those top teams want to throw it more than they run it...or even be equal in those numbers.
The top ten teams want to engage in the power run game. We don't. It's as simple as that.
The whole point of college football today is that 50/50 is where you DON'T want to be. Nick Saban, Bob Stoops, Dabo Swinney, Mike Dantonio, and Kirk Ferentz all would rather run it more than they throw it.
The teams noted in this thread rarely have had to play from behind AND there a BUNCH of piss poor teams that run the ball more than they throw it too. Just another TT troll.
"There are three things that can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad."
You enjoy having a conversation with yourself? You provide your post, people ask questions, and you reply with a response that nobody said.
You don't like the results of the season so you are nit picking. Is that not the same when you provide stats and others ask for a broader sample to understand the context?
50/50 is balanced which is ideal. Keep up your strawman arguments. Just goes to show your lack of football knowledge.
I want to be such a good running team that our QB is throwing against one on one coverage the majority of the time.
Now you are being foolish. Nick Saban does not think 50/50 is ideal...neither do the other coaches. If they can jam it down your throat, they will not stop and pass the ball just to pass it. Are you still living in the 90's along with Riley and crew?
Someone may have posted this, but if you're looking at the best teams in the country, chances are they aren't playing from behind a lot, have solid defenses, and aren't in shoot-outs. What does that correlate with? You guessed it, a higher percentage of running plays...
On September 20th why did ole Nick throw it 59 times to 42 runs? Did turnovers make him play from behind? Did he still lose? Yes and yes. Why didnt he tell his QB to not throw interceptions? Why didnt he play the backup QB? Oh wait backup threw 14 passes and a interception too.
Uhhh Uhhhh.
But we want to be 50/50...that is the difference. Do you really think our pro-style offense is set up to have a power run game where we run it at a 60% clip? The answer is no.
Our percentage running the ball would presumably be higher if we weren't behind in the 4th quarter so often.
Oh my, TT now wants to discuss stats, lmao, troll gonna troll.
Exactly this. TT can't understand that there is a bigger picture to look at though.
I think you missed the point - he prefers a different offense. In pro systems balance is strived for. A better question might be is the pro-style offense the best fit for nebraska? I prefer a ball control run based offense that's easier for college kids and the level of talent we can recruit to execute (by high level I mean consistent top 10 in both yards and scoring)
Nebraska finished second in the B1G behind Ohio State in offense with a potato at QB, a poor OL, and a pretty average stable of RBs. Just a slight upgrade to those positions and this offense will be killing it in the B1G.
We want to be efficient. No one wants to be 50/50 for its own sake. Langsdorf calls the plays he thinks will succeed, not to meet some magical ratio.
You and plenty of others think we throw too much, fair enough. This argument is flawed, however.
I never said we throw too much. I love this offense and the play calling. The pro style is all about efficiency and balance on offense. If we had a better QB this season looks completely different.
This is the whole point. Our system is antiquated. Oregon State fans have been telling us this for the last year. The top teams engage in the power run game.
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