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Henrich said late July decision. Article today on OWH on both.Do we still have a chance with these local boys? I thought Heinrich was making a summer decision, just haven't heard much from either of them. Wondered if anyone else had heard anything?
Do we still have a chance with these local boys? I thought Heinrich was making a summer decision, just haven't heard much from either of them. Wondered if anyone else had heard anything?
Who is the third?Strange, we could go 0 for 3, for highly ranked recruits right in our own front yard.
Funny, if I had to guess it would say Hickman is more likely to be N.I think we land Henrich and lose Hickman. Henrich really likes Ruud and Frost and knows we need LBs. JMHO
Council Bluffs QB
Council Bluffs QB
Council Bluffs is in Iowa if you want to get technical.
Garrett Nelson would most likely be #3.
But the poster of that comment said 0/3 in our front yard. Nelson is committed, so it can't be him.
I presume by front yard, they just meant nearby, not necessarily in state. It's probably Duggan.
But the poster of that comment said 0/3 in our front yard. Nelson is committed, so it can't be him.
I presume by front yard, they just meant nearby, not necessarily in state. It's probably Duggan.
if we don't get these two in state talents the haters are going to come out of the cupboard and bitch that we let local talent get away and we havn't even played a game yet, I hope the fans show some patience with this staff. just wait and see if i'm right.
I disagree. I think fans are just being realistic. They know Frost got a very late start in our recruiting process and still managed to pull in a top 25 class. They further know that Riley left some big roster holes at CB and OT and a bit at DT. Therefore, they understand that Frost is scouring the nation turning over every rock and looking around every corner to try as best he can at this late stage to fill those gaps. They respect the pugnacious tenacity of this staff to fight for an infusion of talent sooner rather than later. They respect this staff's sense of urgency.It's called rationalization. Fans are good at it.
I disagree. I think fans are just being realistic. They know Frost got a very late start in our recruiting process and still managed to pull in a top 25 class. They further know that Riley left some big roster holes at CB and OT and a bit at DT. Therefore, they understand that Frost is scouring the nation turning over every rock and looking around every corner to try as best he can at this late stage to fill those gaps. They respect the pugnacious tenacity of this staff to fight for an infusion of talent sooner rather than later. They respect this staff's sense of urgency.
The coming year will be a different story. If the 2019 class ends as the 25th rated class I think people will still cut Frost slack and wait to see how he develops those players in his system. However... there will be some disappointment and unease: "shit... same rating as before...". There will be grumbles.
As for a double standard with regard to Frost vis-a-vis previous coaches... that is only natural and says nothing about our fan base. He is a new coach who has generated a ton of enthusiasm. So people are getting on the hope train and giving him the benefit of the doubt. But guess what? We acted that way too with Callahan, Pelini, and even Riley in their first year. Yes, the fans turned on those coaches but not until they had underschieved. But early on in their tenure here fans were cutting them slack, defending them, and giving them the benefit of the doubt, just as we are doing with Frost now.
As a fan, I gave Cally, Bo and Riley a lot of run. Will do the same for Frost.You must have been in a different world than I was. The majority of the fan base was ready to run Callahan out of town year one and a ton of fans never gave Riley a chance.
You must have been in a different world than I was. The majority of the fan base was ready to run Callahan out of town year one and a ton of fans never gave Riley a chance. The only time there was excitement about Callahan was during the recruiting process one year.
I have actively supported and justified every coach we’ve had, not just the ones I liked. I will continue to do that with Frost.
As far as leaving the cupboard bare or leaving huge holes in rosters, that has been used as a justification for every coach after Solich.
I stand by my assessment. Yes, there were fans who were opposed to Cally and Riley from the get go. But I stand by my claim that the majority of fans were behind them. They were in the circles of fans I knew until the bottom fell out.You must have been in a different world than I was. The majority of the fan base was ready to run Callahan out of town year one and a ton of fans never gave Riley a chance. The only time there was excitement about Callahan was during the recruiting process one year.
I have actively supported and justified every coach we’ve had, not just the ones I liked. I will continue to do that with Frost.
As far as leaving the cupboard bare or leaving huge holes in rosters, that has been used as a justification for every coach after Solich.
Don’t worry, the Frost effect will take a couple of years to wear off.
If these players choose to go elsewhere it will be because they aren’t from here and had no real ties to the university no other reason.
Nebraska will have a class ranked between 19-24 and it will be because the players fit the system and are team players. Even though every other coach since 1998 recruited at a similar level.
Random grad transfer, who was a part time starter at a MAC school, may be the answer at CB. A grad transfer DL, who has played 2 games total since 2012, both games on offense, in special run packages, is being viewed as a solid move.
These two players may very well turn out to be great players at Nebraska, but Bo Pelini or Bill Callahan would have been ceremoniously criticized for using scholarships on these players. That just further illustrates how much patience the fan base has with Frost.
God bless this thread. Anyone like Xavier Watts? He's the most complete WR in the state. No idea what he'll run electronically but get on the bandwagon. You'll be a year late, but hop on anyway.
He's a talent no doubt, but If I had a to pick now Im taking Watts and not looking backI like this guy too:
https://247sports.com/Player/Zavier-Betts-46049733
Imagine picking up 2 4 star WR's from the Omaha area in the 2020 class. Takes a lot of pressure off of the recruiting game to not have to worry about getting more than 1 or 2 out of state elite WR's.
Don’t worry, the Frost effect will take a couple of years to wear off.
If these players choose to go elsewhere it will be because they aren’t from here and had no real ties to the university no other reason.
Nebraska will have a class ranked between 19-24 and it will be because the players fit the system and are team players. Even though every other coach since 1998 recruited at a similar level.
Random grad transfer, who was a part time starter at a MAC school, may be the answer at CB. A grad transfer DL, who has played 2 games total since 2012, both games on offense, in special run packages, is being viewed as a solid move.
These two players may very well turn out to be great players at Nebraska, but Bo Pelini or Bill Callahan would have been ceremoniously criticized for using scholarships on these players. That just further illustrates how much patience the fan base has with Frost.
You must have been in a different world than I was. The majority of the fan base was ready to run Callahan out of town year one and a ton of fans never gave Riley a chance. The only time there was excitement about Callahan was during the recruiting process one year.
I have actively supported and justified every coach we’ve had, not just the ones I liked. I will continue to do that with Frost.
As far as leaving the cupboard bare or leaving huge holes in rosters, that has been used as a justification for every coach after Solich.
More so with Pelini.Wow.....you must be in a different galaxy than me. I recall clearly ENDLESS apologists for Clownahan on the internet and was regarded as a supreme recruiter who would bring greatness to NU. Also, a Super Bowl coach....Wow! Firing Frank was great and now we have a modern guru to keep NU fully elite!
The Smiling Mike apologists had huge boatloads & were essentially the same fluff-ball fans who also drooled over Clownahan. Never gave him a chance? Lol! Two losing seasons in three years should have been just fine? The poor guy never had a chance?? Haha.....wow.
Well, anyways.....different strokes for different folks.
GBR!!
Wow.....you must be in a different galaxy than me. I recall clearly ENDLESS apologists for Clownahan on the internet and was regarded as a supreme recruiter who would bring greatness to NU. Also, a Super Bowl coach....Wow! Firing Frank was great and now we have a modern guru to keep NU fully elite!
The Smiling Mike apologists had huge boatloads & were essentially the same fluff-ball fans who also drooled over Clownahan. Never gave him a chance? Lol! Two losing seasons in three years should have been just fine? The poor guy never had a chance?? Haha.....wow.
Well, anyways.....different strokes for different folks.
GBR!!
I disagree. I think fans are just being realistic. They know Frost got a very late start in our recruiting process and still managed to pull in a top 25 class. They further know that Riley left some big roster holes at CB and OT and a bit at DT. Therefore, they understand that Frost is scouring the nation turning over every rock and looking around every corner to try as best he can at this late stage to fill those gaps. They respect the pugnacious tenacity of this staff to fight for an infusion of talent sooner rather than later. They respect this staff's sense of urgency.
The coming year will be a different story. If the 2019 class ends as the 25th rated class I think people will still cut Frost slack and wait to see how he develops those players in his system. However... there will be some disappointment and unease: "shit... same rating as before...". There will be grumbles.
As for a double standard with regard to Frost vis-a-vis previous coaches... that is only natural and says nothing about our fan base. He is a new coach who has generated a ton of enthusiasm. So people are getting on the hope train and giving him the benefit of the doubt. But guess what? We acted that way too with Callahan, Pelini, and even Riley in their first year. Yes, the fans turned on those coaches but not until they had underachieved. But early on in their tenure here fans were cutting them slack, defending them, and giving them the benefit of the doubt, just as we are doing with Frost now.
Ha. Great!Love the use of "pugnacious tenacity." And my spell check didn't even turn it into an imaginary location in eastern Asia or a new breed of dog. I am longing for the day when I get to pull it outta my pocket and use it in conversation. I will reference you, and will hopefully snap a picture of the person's perplexed face when I use it. I'll let you know how it goes Pennsy..
I hate to break it to you but Frost offense is more fluff ball than you want to admit. But keep dreaming of the power run game that isn't coming to Lincoln anytime soon. When Frost calls a pass play on 4th and 2 from the 2 or when he call 4 straight pass plays to start a game, or the QB has 35 pass attempts, your head will explode.
And your reading comprehension is as bad as your understanding of Frost's offense. I never said Riley wasn't given a chance, I said people never gave him a chance and were bitching and moaning from the jump. That is a huge difference from "poor buy never had a chance".
Lastly, subsequent hires not working out does not mean "firing Frank" was not the right call.
Didn't lose Dugan, was not a priority by this staff.
Haha.....I'm so glad you're fully aware of what SF's offense will be. What an expert you truly are!
I "hope" you're aware that SF himself says the running game is his highest priority and that no offense works without a successful running game. But if that's over your head (about a 100% chance).....don't worry about it.
Lastly, firing Frank to bring in Clownahan was an amazingly stupid decision. But what's it worth trying to explain that to you? Ahhh.....just believe what you wish.
We'll see....