I honestly thought HH would be more involved this year just because I think he's one of the best athletes on the team. I did not like the zone option keeper to the left once a game. Too obvious, duh.
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12 games, 25 carries for 111 yards, and 10-18 passes. Touched the ball 43 times.
I think the need for 5 inline TEs are gone as long as Holgersen is here. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see a couple moved to tackle
Big part was he was out of shape and weighed something like 360 or more when he got here.
I like him, but if Nebraska actually liked him they should give more in state true tough blocking TE’s a look. They are a dime a dozen in Nebraska and we always let them go elsewhere it seems.
Let's look at the TE catches and use after Dana arrived--That should be a better evaluation.
Good receiver, nice career. I think he'll be a 6th year guy though. Time to make room for Carter Nelson.
Good player, and this definitely isn’t a “test the waters” or “looking for more bag” situation.
That TE room is bloated, and this would not be one of the ones I’d cut.
That TE room is bloated, and this would not be one of the ones I’d cut.
Hate to see NB leave. Better than fidone
Not probably. He is. I don’t blame him, riding the pine behind Fidone? Coaching staff is a joke for the TE depth chart alone.
HH would be a matchup nightmare in the slot if he consistently catches the ball. I think he’s an extremely valuable guy for us as an emergency QB. His passing is obviously improved. I think we could win games with him if Dylan went down. His run threat causes a problem for defenses.
Rankings and where he is transferring from don't mean anything to these coaches. Look at Rhule targets right now, several kids from smaller schools. Film is how they decide and I hope they are making the decision based on production not potential.
I'm not sure I agree about HH. I guess it's possible but "matchup nightmare" is not what I think about when I watch him play. He's a big kid of course and has good straight line speed. I honestly think he should've been a TE/HB 3 years ago. Frost should've done it and imo Rhule should have the moment he stepped on campus. Either way NOW he has a lot to learn and a short time to learn it in.
I agree he's still a valuable asset. Great kid and backup, backup, backup QB imo. Unlike you and a few others I don't see us winning anything of much value if we have to use him at QB again. Guess I'm just not as high on him as some.
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It's another one of those weird conundrums with an NU coaching staff. Seems like a great teammate and good athlete, but the coaches keep using him in a way that hurts us. Every time he time he comes in it's like, oh boy, here's azone read run for no gain. So I will be happy if they move him away from qb to eliminate that nonsense.
Absolutely. It's like if we put him in we GOTTA get him the ball. As if he's owed that. I don't wanna talk down on him because he is a great kid. But this is big business. I don't think HH offers anything in the slot that Nelson , Fidone, or the kid that just entered the portal does. As much as I like him as a person as a player Husker nation has this kid so over rated it's ridiculous.
Just my opinion of course...
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Much smaller scale of course but I felt/feel the same way about Jurgens and his snapping. Of course it was great for him, but terrible for the team. And it just seems like no other coach would do something so non-sensical. 3/4 of the way through the year it's pretty evident bringing in HH for a play or 2 is just likely to set us back. The random chance it works just isn't worth it.
Hopefully Haarberg gets up to speed on more of the playbook. His value when he is on the field is the fact the opposing D has to account for him, because they know if he is able to get the ball in space that a house call is a possibility. It seems this season they either ran a play for him or he was strictly acting as a decoy. He needs to be a normal piece of how plays unfold and become an option to use on any play.
So that's kinda what I mean. When he comes in it's like "watch him watch him". I get the value of it frees up other guys at times but outside of the runs he made in his first 4-5 games at QB I'm not sure Ivr seen something that would label him a matchup nightmare. In fact Imo I think if/once he does become a normal piece of the offense his value won't be as much. Because again imo I don't think he offers anything as a pass catcher that our other TE/HB bodies do.
Fwiw I think he was handled incorrectly from day one. If he was going into year 4-5 at that position I might feel differently. Jmo of course..
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Hopefully he comes back. I'd much rather see Fidone in the portal. NB is much better and is the bigger loss.
Believe we would have won 3 more games if HH was the starting QB. I think he improved in the passing game enough over the offseason to be serviceable and his legs were the exact reason we had a respectable run game last year. People vastly underestimate how much having a QB who can run can place pressure on the defense vs a QB who is a statue.
I agree that he’s very similar to a guy like Carter Nelson. Thats why I said that I like his value as emergency QB even if he’s switched to TE. IF Dylan can’t go who do you want? A true freshman or a guy who has started multiple games? There is no doubt though a guy with his size and speed presents a problem for most DBs or linebackers who would have to cover him.
No way it can be proven one way or the other but I disagree completely. I watched him wear down after 4 or 5 games last year from the beating he took. No way imo would he have been healthy enough or accurate enough to keep teams honest. Not to mention this year he wouldn't have gotten the luxury of defenses keeping him in games.
I agree that we need more than a statue and it would help but I'd argue his arm wasn't any better than Dylans legs are. Do we win a game or two we lost with DR? Maybe but we probably also lose a 2 or 3 that we won with DR if he had been the QB.
This isn't even taking to account how far he would've set our offense back big picture wise. Trying to cater to what he does best. Try recruiting or signing good WRs to play in the offense this year after TWO years of a 25 year old QB run first offense.
We will never know but I definitely think we can agree to disagree long term AND short term he wouldn't have been a better choice at QB for this program.
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That is a hypothetical that cannot be proven. You are creating a scenario in a vacuum that doesn't allow for any variables or how the defense would gameplan against a running QB vs a passing QB.
