Grant Seagren and others to the portal as well

[Tuco Salamanca]

So if he’d have played 1 single play, the same applies?

He left the game tied, the next QB took the ball with the game still tied

Makes much more sense to treat QBs like pitchers when it comes to W-L record

If you want to say the team went 5-3 in games HH started, that would be more accurate, but to say he was 5-3 is not.

Acknowledging this discussion is superfluous.

You wrote, that you "accurately posted his record as a starter." You did not. He started 8 games, in those 8 games the team's record was 5-3. That makes his record as a starter 5-3. It doesn't get much simpler.

Edit - Attempting to compare QB to starting pitcher is apples and oranges. To start, a pitcher is a defensive player. They are responsible for runs allowed, not points scored. A QB is an offensive player they are responsible for points scored not points allowed. So, even if one wanted to use that argument, when the QB left the game and what the score would be backward to baseball, it would be based on points scored vs runs allowed.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

If your entire point is “that’s just how they do it”, I have to admit, I’d be a little underwhelmed.

I was expecting examples.

Fact is it makes more sense to apply the record to players who actually played and contributed to the outcome, just like your baseball example which further illustrated my point.

Maryland game is an L for Sims, who lost the game. Had purdy brought us back, it’d be a W on his ledger.

Your last sentence is totally incorrect.

In determining who was the winning QB in a football game isn't like a baseball reliever coming in during a tie game, getting a late run and being the winner. Doesn't work that way in football.

 

[king_kong_]

You wrote, that you "accurately posted his record as a starter." You did not. He started 8 games, in those 8 games the team's record was 5-3. That makes his record as a starter 5-3. It doesn't get much simpler.

Edit - Attempting to compare QB to starting pitcher is apples and oranges. To start, a pitcher is a defensive player. They are responsible for runs allowed, not points scored. A QB is an offensive player they are responsible for points scored not points allowed. So when the QB left the game and what the score would be backward to baseball, it would be based on points scored vs runs allowed.

A run saved is the same as a run scored.

And in a tie game where both teams take subsequent possession it is the exact same.

 

[king_kong_]

Your last sentence is totally incorrect.

In determining who was the winning QB in a football game isn't like a baseball reliever coming in during a tie game, getting a late run and being the winner. Doesn't work that way in football.

I know it doesn’t.

But it should, because that is much, much more accurate accounting.

Imagine if we’d won that game and I was posting his record as 6-2.

Mentally unstable trolls like @Neb79 would be bending over backwards to add context to that record.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

A run saved is the same as a run scored.

And in a tie game where both teams take subsequent possession it is the exact same.

No, a pitcher is responsible for keeping the opponent off the scoreboard, unless he is hitting, he isn't responsible for scoring runs.

Regardless, the first paragraph is all that really matters. Games started and the record in those games. 5-3 is the answer.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

He stinks!

 

[inWV]

We were lucky that HH was available when NU needed him and he had a strength that helped the team. But he was otherwise limited and was not as effective against the better teams. He’s now playing a position that might lead to an NFL roster. NU has a room of QBs more suited to the position. I’d say things worked out for the best.

 

[dinglefritz]

I blame this thread on us not having the Red White scrimmage🙄

 

[beaglehusker]

4 quotes? nice work

HH played 4 plays in the 2nd quarter ("well into", lol) and just 3 total drives against maryland.

the game was also tied 0-0 when he left and our D stopped them on the ensuing drive before Sims took over, so I have no idea how you could try and say that loss is on him.

I suppose some people just can't help but inject their narratives despite the plain as day facts staring them in the face. pathetic.

I hope Uncle Don does more for these two transfer OL than he did the last two (nothing, both saw their draft stock steadily decline each day under his tutelage)

He started the game, he gets credit for the loss just like he would've gotten credit for the win had we won the game. It's that simple

 

[Neb79]

He started the game, he gets credit for the loss just like he would've gotten credit for the win had we won the game. It's that simple

Yeah. It should be simple. Actually it IS simple for every man but Kong. The man who “only deals with facts” can’t handle that. He’d prefer to create his own 5-2 narrative to try to proclaim Haarberg as the greatest QB in Nebraska history.

 

[Laner2]

I don' know why I try, but here goes....

 

[huskerfan66]

I don' know why I try, but here goes....

Atleast not Wisconsin

 

[TFrazier]

I don' know why I try, but here goes....

 

[Dean Pope]

I blame this thread on us not having the Red White scrimmage🙄

The stadium may have only had 5,000 fans, most of whom said "never again". But damn it, that rummage sale made a few aggressive individuals some money when they put up the merchandise for resale online!

 

[huskerfan66]

The stadium may have only had 5,000 fans, most of whom said "never again". But damn it, that rummage sale made a few aggressive individuals some money when they put up the merchandise for resale online!

So why doesn't the nu athletic department do that. Sell it online

 

[Dean Pope]

So why doesn't the nu athletic department do that. Sell it online

That's a good question. My guess is that they would mark stuff way down as a fan appreciation type of thing. But what it wound up being was a profit opportunity for a handful of sharks. Others did get some good stuff too, but I heard that if you weren't there early, you got nothing.

 

[TarheelHuskerFan]

Kong really boasting about Haarbergs 5 wins against Northern Illinois, Louisiana Tech, Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue

 

[TarheelHuskerFan]

Kong really boasting about Haarbergs 5 wins against Northern Illinois, Louisiana Tech, Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue

7 touchdowns to his 7 interceptions against trash competition and a 49% pass percentage.

I’m not bashing Haarberg, I like him. I just don’t understand Kongs defense

 

[Neb79]

7 touchdowns to his 7 interceptions against trash competition and a 49% pass percentage.

I’m not bashing Haarberg, I like him. I just don’t understand Kongs defense

Best QB record ever. Kong gives out awards like Iowa fans do

 

[JOHNNY N]

I don' know why I try, but here goes....

Good luck to hum.

 

[king_kong_]

Kong really boasting about Haarbergs 5 wins against Northern Illinois, Louisiana Tech, Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue

Only time we’ve beaten illinois in the last 5 years

 

[inWV]

Good luck to hum.

When Rhule talked Seagren up at the presser a couple of weeks ago, I remembered he did the same thing with Chief Borders right before he went in the portal. Grant is a guy Rhule likes and thinks can be a starter on a Power 4 team. A few years ago, he’d probably be in line to start at NU and that is why NU was winning 3-5 games per year.

 

[Walleye79]

When Rhule talked Seagren up at the presser a couple of weeks ago, I remembered he did the same thing with Chief Borders right before he went in the portal. Grant is a guy Rhule likes and thinks can be a starter on a Power 4 team. A few years ago, he’d probably be in line to start at NU and that is why NU was winning 3-5 games per year.

Was is a pretty strong word in terms of winning 3-5 games. We just hit the 6-7 with the bowl last year for one year. Need to follow that up before we consider 3-5 games history.

 

[inWV]

Was is a pretty strong word in terms of winning 3-5 games. We just hit the 6-7 with the bowl last year for one year. Need to follow that up before we consider 3-5 games history.

How about if Frost Co were still working in Memorial, we don't get Spindler and Pritchett. A QB of Raiola's caliber would also not be on the roster.