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John go to the cops and say you didn't see anything but you heard some noises. That will be an interesting interview. And then the cops will talk to good old Jerry who runs an at risk charity for boys. He'll say the kid is like his son and they worked out beforehand and were snapping towels and sliding on the floor. And then the kid in this case, which he did, would also say nothing happened.
When the story broke this kid was a 25 year old marine. He came forward and said he was the kid in the shower and nothing happened.
Anyway, because mike never said he saw an assault, the admins told the charity and those guys are all child care experts and mandated reporters. Now you can make stupid jokes all day but that's what happened, and the jury concurred.
If mike saw an assault you call the police, after you stop it. You don't call dad or tell the football coach. You tell the police.
Or...you hear those noises and you walk in a bit more and check it out.

Right?

Also, if they told the cops and the cops checked it out and talked to the 10 year old boy and said "Really quick...were you both naked in the shower together..." well...I think we know where it would go from there.

The jury...I remember a jury that had tons of evidence in a certain trial...had to do with a football player that lopped off some heads...turns out the jury concurred that player was innocent. Sure didn't seem like it though.

The point is (and I don't think you are arguing this) is that Dusky was raping these boys...we know that...that is in fact a fact. However you want to dress it up as a way to take blame off some and not others is fine...but the fact is he was raping boys. I think the jury agreed on that, right?

I guess I am not sure what you are arguing. Perhaps I am not making myself clear either. But clearly sex sounds and sliding on the shower floor don't sound the same at all...if they do...you are doing sex all wrong...like...really wrong.
 
Or...you hear those noises and you walk in a bit more and check it out.

Right?

Also, if they told the cops and the cops checked it out and talked to the 10 year old boy and said "Really quick...were you both naked in the shower together..." well...I think we know where it would go from there.

The jury...I remember a jury that had tons of evidence in a certain trial...had to do with a football player that lopped off some heads...turns out the jury concurred that player was innocent. Sure didn't seem like it though.

The point is (and I don't think you are arguing this) is that Dusky was raping these boys...we know that...that is in fact a fact. However you want to dress it up as a way to take blame off some and not others is fine...but the fact is he was raping boys. I think the jury agreed on that, right?

I guess I am not sure what you are arguing. Perhaps I am not making myself clear either. But clearly sex sounds and sliding on the shower floor don't sound the same at all...if they do...you are doing sex all wrong...like...really wrong.
You and I are not arguing. I agree with everything you said.
I just think you have certain idiots that throw out stupid names and insults and that dimishes how complex a case like this is. Jim Clemente is the foremost child offender expert and he said these pillar of the community or nice guy offenders are very hard to catch.
I think the wrong people got blamed for Jerry, and this nonsense of everybody had to know does nothing to train people in the future so we can better detect when something is going on.
John, you and I can have a civil conversation about this or any number of subjects and that's the way it should be.
I don't care about morons who call others disgusting names on a message board. Do that to my face and and it will be a different story.
I was a Marine in Vietnam in 68, 69 (82nd Airborne) so message board blowhards are disappointing but that's it.
 
You and I are not arguing. I agree with everything you said.
I just think you have certain idiots that throw out stupid names and insults and that dimishes how complex a case like this is. Jim Clemente is the foremost child offender expert and he said these pillar of the community or nice guy offenders are very hard to catch.
I think the wrong people got blamed for Jerry, and this nonsense of everybody had to know does nothing to train people in the future so we can better detect when something is going on.
John, you and I can have a civil conversation about this or any number of subjects and that's the way it should be.
I don't care about morons who call others disgusting names on a message board. Do that to my face and and it will be a different story.
I was a Marine in Vietnam in 68, 69 (82nd Airborne) so message board blowhards are disappointing but that's it.

Ah, got it! Thanks!
 
Dumbazzes in Nebraska elected Tom Ozborne to Congress. He is a POS who enabled rapists and women beaters on his teams.

Almost the same. Except Osborne didn't pretend those things weren't happening, allow them to go unpunished for a decade, or allow them to happen in his football offices. Other than that, exactly the same.
 
the degrees to which equivalencies are being applied here are most distasteful and off-putting. while I have no trouble with with past administrations and coaches at N taking lumps for transgressions as it related to the treatment of peer coeds by athletes, 'm not sure a single one of them personally walked by the the crime while in commission and then played the 'ive done all could by telling my boss and forgetting about it' card. add 'em up, let's see which column draws more repulsion.
 
You're a moron and you display it in every post.

Oh, little brain can't make any rational thought so you resort to childish name calling. Your support of people who knew but did nothing to help child rape victims is disgusting and indefensible. No amount of 2 bit name calling will change anything
 
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Oh, little brain can't make any rational thought so you resort to childish name calling. Your support of people who knew but did nothing to help child rape victims is disgusting and indefensible. No amount of 2 bit name calling will change anything loser.
"Supposed" victims. Get it right. The sick bastards up there claim it is all made up.
 
Oh, little brain can't make any rational thought so you resort to childish name calling. Your support of people who knew but did nothing to help child rape victims is disgusting and indefensible. No amount of 2 bit name calling will change anything loser.
See my previous post.
 
Gonna be a long rest of your life if you're going to spend it on other people's message boards trying to convince the world Penn State is just misunderstood.
Good point. Guess it's easier for others to besmirch a community of 650000 people for the actions of one guy. And as fans you understand we browse around to see what other teams have going on. I noticed the ridiculous post about Jay Paterno and the usual complete, unadulterated ignorance relative to joe or anything else relative to the js situation. I posted something where even Mike's dad and close friend admit he said he didn't see anything. Common sense would dictate he would report the same to the admins.
That information was never in the scumbag media so the sheep public didn't know about it. You would think information like that would mean something. To the jury it did and that's why no conspiracy was found.
But you're correct people would rather believe in the conspiracy. Not sure why but they do.
I've learned more than I ever cared to about nice guy offenders from this tragedy. They don't need enablers and they are our priests, school teachers, youth league coaches, etc. Instead of trying to learn more about detecting these folks ignorance enables more abuse.
Just watch your television every night relative to politics and you start to understand the media is broken and people are crude, ignorant, hypocritical asses. They call others disgusting names like ped state and then give themselves the moral high ground.
But remember folks in most instances you don't know what you don't know. I've had one poster in this thread arguing with me about facts, even relative to common football information, and although I've corrected the record multiple times he continues with his ignorance.
But I digress. Have a good day. And since one poster loved my bible references, once again those without sin cast the first stone. We all will be judged when we pass on. Joe was and so will you.
 
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Good point. Guess it's easier for others to besmirch a community of 650000 people for the actions of one guy. And as fans you understand we browse around to see what other teams have going on. I noticed the ridiculous post about Jay Paterno and the usual complete, unadulterated ignorance relative to joe or anything else relative to the js situation. I posted something where even Mike's dad and close friend admit he said he didn't see anything. Common sense would dictate he would report the same to the admins.
That information was never in the scumbag media so the sheep public didn't know about it. You would think information like that would mean something. To the jury it did and that's why no conspiracy was found.
But you're correct people would rather believe in the conspiracy. Not sure why but they do.
I've learned more than I ever cared to about nice guy offenders from this tragedy. They don't need enablers and they are our priests, school teachers, youth league coaches, etc. Instead of trying to learn more about detecting these folks ignorance enables more abuse.
Just watch your television every night relative to politics and you start to understand the media is broken and people are crude, ignorant, hypocritical asses. They call others disgusting names like ped state and then give themselves the moral high ground.
But remember folks in most instances you don't know what you don't know. I've had one poster in this thread arguing with me about facts, even relative to common football information, and although I've corrected the record multiple times he continues with his ignorance.
But I digress. Have a good day. And since one poster loved my bible references, once again those without sin cast the first stone. We all will be judged when we pass on. Joe was and so will you.


Translation...."BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH".
 
It's a freaking pilgrimage for this guy. It's like he is monitoring message boards and filtering pedophile and Sandusky so he can go defend the actions of the school and the enablers.
Good one Tuco. The jury already found no conspiracy. You probably missed that watching reruns of Breaking Bad.
 
Ditto to you.
I figured that would shut you up, you are an enabler. You love that they got off with a wrist slap for protecting a child predator. Good on you. Your maker will decide how neat that is.
 
I figured that would shut you up, you are an enabler. You love that they got off with a wrist slap for protecting a child predator. Good on you. Your maker will decide how neat that is.
And your ignorance enables as well.
 
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