Agreed. One game at a time. Making a bowl game is still possible and will be a great achievement for the seniors on the roster and a good stepping stone for the future.
Gettin worse every game
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Agreed. One game at a time. Making a bowl game is still possible and will be a great achievement for the seniors on the roster and a good stepping stone for the future.
Agree. I am glad that despite some of those things being pretty self evident in a 4-8 team, that things like culture, competing etc will start to be addressed in a more productive manner after we are 3 games into the season than they were in the 9 months since this staff took over.
I tend to agree with this. Frost will get time to get his guys.
Not sure if it is all heart, just a lack of desire to play football. No enjoyment on the field. It's been that way for awhile.
If you watch a lot of CFB, you can see it in the kids eyes. They just hate being on the field.
Might have something to do with the quality of opponents.
The days of the Big 8 are over.
Oh oh!!! I found one! How about Scott Frost? I hear he did magic at UCF taking an 0-12 team to 6-7 and then undefeated with a bowl win over Auburn in 2 years. Does that count? Maybe we could hire him?
So they should have been able to fix everything in one offseason? Find and develop multiple dual threat QB’s. Revamp the OL and find depth. Chance the mindset, undo multiple years of poor S and C. And since it hasn’t happened, yet, the best thing to do is bitch and moan and create a toxic environment around the program, because that will be productive? We need this thing to work and we need to give it a chance to work. Bitching and moaning like entitled babies after three games, hell after every mistake, isn’t going to help anything.
From before the season began, 4 wins is a disappointment. We should be 2-1 right now, and if we were, we would be right where we want to be. Losing games early in the season is not unheard of when new coaches are on the scene. It sucks, but not unheard of.
If by season’s end we have only 4 victories and are one of the most penalized teams in the nation and among the bottom teams in turnovers, it will be a failure. But if we clean up what we can clean up, I will be encouraged.
Cards on the table, I am absolutely lowering my expectations at this point. And truth be told, if I believe Frost will turn it around, whether that happens this year or next, I can’t call it a failed season. I’m an optimist, as you know, and will always try to find the silver lining.
Perhaps you should reread my question. How many successful coaches who took over a losing program DID NOT show progress in year one. I’m sure some exist
What a crock of a post. The coaches left it all alone til now? Generally your posts are well thought out, even if I don’t agree. Your a rational poster and challenge me in a lot of ways, which I appreciate.
But claiming they haven’t addressed any of the problems at all, and will start now? Come on...
Fair enough. I am in the ... “show me, don’t tell me” camp. One season does not represent a failed hire.
I have seen no progress to date ... it doesn’t mean progress won’t be made this year or in coming years.
Misunderstanding - I posted addressed IN A MORE PRODUCTIVE MANNER - not that they were never addressed
The jury is still out on him, but Matt Campbell was 3-9 in year one at ISU (they were 3-9 the year before). Then went 8-5 in year 2.
Chris Petersen's first 2 years at Washington were 8-6 and 7-6 after taking over an 8-4 team. James Franklin went 7-6 his first 2 years at Penn State after taking over a 7-5 team. Those weren't losing programs, but still, they didn't show progress in terms of wins and losses until year 3.
My bad... I focused on WILL START, which sounded like they hadn’t yet started, not more productive.
Apologies.
As you said Peterson and Franklin didn’t take over losing programs. Matt Campbell is a good find .. but yes the jury is out on him
