Nebraska fans thought Bo could be prickly towards the press and the fans. Wait until they catch Chip's act. One of the things that made Chip a good coach at Oregon is that he didn't care what anyone else thought. He did it his way.
Frosty will never take the job guys...
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Nebraska fans thought Bo could be prickly towards the press and the fans. Wait until they catch Chip's act. One of the things that made Chip a good coach at Oregon is that he didn't care what anyone else thought. He did it his way.
You gotta be able to recruit the Jimmy's and Joe's nowadays and I think Chip would attract the recruits. I'm not sure how Frost would do attracting the big time talent. I would hope Frost could land them, but I don't think it would be a slam dunk like CK would be.
It seemed like for a while (and they still do) a lot of talk was made about arm's race between program's facilities. So many programs have great facilities nowadays. Now, there seems to be so much about how many "big name" coaches does a conference have. Preseason, I heard media talking about how the B1G has better head coaches than the SEC now. Riley unfortunately would never get brought up in those conversations. Nebraska needs to get a "big name" coach to get back in the pecking order of the B1G.
Chip Kelly would be a risky hire. People seem to forget that the NCAA penalized Oregon and placed the program on 3 years probation in 2013 because of Kelly's recruiting practices.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...gon-ducks-put-probation-ncaa-lose-scholarship
"[The NCAA] also placed an 18-month show-cause order for Kelly, which would require schools wishing to hire him to appear before the Committee on Infractions to determine if the school should be subject to the show-cause procedures."
Kelly pulled a Pete Carroll and left town just ahead of the sanctions.
If by risky you mean home run, then yes, he would be a risky hire.
If we DON'T make the huge money hire then our whales have no interest in getting us back to the top. The next hire is very likely the most important in the history of the program. It's time to stop thinking we are smarter than everyone else. Pay the money and get the elite coach.
Chip Kelly's record is dubious and there is a reason college ADs are not calling him.
Chip Kelly did have success at Oregon but it came with a price. Kelly violated NCAA rules while at Oregon and would likely have been fired there but he accepted the Eagles job before the sanctions were announced. His pro record was nothing to brag about either:
Eagles: 10-6, 10-6, 6-9 - fired
4pers: 2-14 - fired
Nebraska would be getting a known cheater with a very sketchy coaching record.
Chip Kelly did have success at Oregon but it came with a price. Kelly violated NCAA rules while at Oregon and would likely have been fired there but he accepted the Eagles job before the sanctions were announced. His pro record was nothing to brag about either:
Eagles: 10-6, 10-6, 6-9 - fired
4pers: 2-14 - fired
Nebraska would be getting a known cheater with a very sketchy coaching record.
Because he hasn't ever been top shelf without Dak Prescott.
I give zero shits about violating some NCAA rules. We should violate more of them. Just cover the violations up better.
I certainly respect the alternative opinion on the matter. I just don't agree with it. Especially since the NCAA is a joke.
I don't see any trophies in Mullen's trophy case. He would be another Mike Riley hire.
Smarter than everyone else? The problem goes all the way to the top guys. Mike Riley is a product of that bad decision making.
Great CFB hires tend to be young, up and coming, experienced coordinators with a fire. Bo fit that mold, he just couldn't recruit elite talent. He desperately needed that staff member and the people around him couldn't instill a system that worked, or he would still be our coach.
With Mike, all you have to do is look at the guys coming out of the tunnel to know they are not prepared to play at an elite level. No real passion. NFL mentality.
This all manifests in a fishbowl with a declining end product. Nebraska football is a tough sell right now.
I'm calling Fake News on these posts: Link
"It would be nice to be back here someday," Frost said. "This is my home. I have a lot of friends here, and I'm really passionate about this program, but they're going to do a great job and I'm happy where I am."
Despite being primarily focused on the Ducks, Frost said he still keeps track of Nebraska and is very aware of what Pelini and his staff have done to turn the program around.
Also this video - "two programs I care about a lot", "Nebraska will always be home".
The past is the past. There has been a lot of people that have been in trouble with the NCAA. Heck, let's not ignore our own. Lawrence Phillips brand new mustang anyone??
Chip would turn this ship around.
ESPNU radio is tearing us apart now. I'm sick and tired of being a joke to everyone. And if you think that's not the case, try moving out of state.
Time to hire a winner. Archie, I'm on board with you.
You don't have to move out of state to get a taste of our national perception. Simply go to the Rivals national board and fight the good fight we Husker fans are waging there. But you won't, because it's safe here in the Red Koolaid & BBQ sauce fisbowl of the Husker Board.
I didn't know there was a national board. I'm happy to start posting there. I like good football conversation.
Fighting the good fight? LOL. What the heck does that mean? If it means talking crap to Iowa fans, not into that. I'm here for conversation.
There's some football conversation and there's a lot of off-topic convos too. Fighting the good fight means trying to hold up our reputation of being the best fans in the nation rain or shine. And the program is under a thunderstorm warning currently.
Names?
And get ready for another long build, that will likely fail, if you want to go that route.
When I hear people talk about Jimmys and Joes and no guarantees, etc., I am curious how they think the Chip Kellys of the world were discovered. Steve Pedersen at Washington and Mark D'Antonio was no guarantee.
Guess what? Outside of a handful of coaches (who aren't on the market now) are guarantees.
Guess what? Outside of a handful of coaches (who aren't on the market now) are guarantees.
Do you mean Chris Pedersen at Washington? Petersen was pretty successful head coach at Boise State before moving over to Seattle. D'Antonio had been a head coach prior to Michigan State too. Chip Kelly was known as the wonder kid assisting at FCS New Hampshire before he was hired by Bellotti at Oregon.
I used to go on there quite a bit. It's pretty entertaining. A lot different than a board like this, basically anything goes.
You read a rumor then because he doesn't. I agree with rrthusker. If he hadn't played for NU he wouldn't even be on our radar......yet. He needs a couple of years
Yes. All had shown success but none were guarantees. Same could be said for Scott Frost at this point. Wonder boy at Oregon. Took over a winless UCF and got them to a bowl game.
Of course every coach that is hired had some success or they wouldn't have been hired.
On this line - how have the coaches that are on Nebraska's "radar" panned out so far? Callahan, Pelini and Riley?
Frost makes $1.7 mil at Central Florida. Nebraska could double or even triple that salary with their new full-share B1G payout.
The dynasty he's building at UCF currently features a recruiting class evenly mixed with 2- and 3-star players. They're outside the Power 5 and never going to be anything better than the 4th best team in Florida.
So he'll have to jump to a Power 5 team eventually if he wants a shot at the bigtime. Since he's not going to get the job at Florida or Alabama, I'd say Nebraska would actually be a great option for him.
The dynasty he's building at UCF currently features a recruiting class evenly mixed with 2- and 3-star players. They're outside the Power 5 and never going to be anything better than the 4th best team in Florida.
So he'll have to jump to a Power 5 team eventually if he wants a shot at the bigtime. Since he's not going to get the job at Florida or Alabama, I'd say Nebraska would actually be a great option for him.
Les Miles is 63 years old. I would like the Huskers to go for a little younger more energetic model.
I think what we have learned is it will take spending big money to get quality assistants in addition to paying for a head coach
I'd just like to add that I'm not on board with a coaching change yet. I want to see how the year plays out. Obviously, I'm not optimistic right now.
Yes. You pay big and expect big. Our approach has always been to pay moderately with the expectation that the big time pay will come when the winning occurs.
I don't think Scott is a no brainer here. Its hard to tell. While folks assume that he's essentially TO Jr (all he has to do is update the old system!), its clear from interviews that Scott has long since been his own man. IMO, he's more of Kelly acolyte, than TO.
He did an interview once where he said that some of the old TO concepts are in the Oregon system, but Oregon runs them out of the gun. He also indicated that someday he'd like to see someone integrate TO's system and Oregon's system. The main advantage he'd like to see is that it could add some physicality to Kelly's speed based system.
However, on this matter, feedback seems mixed. Scott clearly has drunk the "Speed" Kool Aid that Kelly mixed. He chose his first landing spot on the basis of having a pipeline of available recruits. I have not seen enough UCF to tell if he's experimenting adding a more power approach, although that might be interesting for film junkies. It remains to be seen that Scott feels he should be the one to integrate the systems, and in the near term how he can run a Kelly-esque system that would mostly have to be imported to a state that churns out squatty lineman, walk-on level talent, and a couple legit D1 prospects.
His major challenge besides having to import everything, is what he describes as the chief advantage of Oregon's system. When Oregon steps on the field, they have a system that is built on all possible responses to a look. He notes that Oregon has been more successful than most, because most folks won't take Oregon's entire system, but only pieces of it. I get a feeling that this system doesn't apply just the playbook, but rather the whole process of training, practicing, etc.
What we're assuming is relatively easy (slapping some TO into the Oregon playbook) may not something that is near term achievable in Frost's early career as he is going to have many things to figure out, beyond reinventing offensive football forever.
He did an interview once where he said that some of the old TO concepts are in the Oregon system, but Oregon runs them out of the gun. He also indicated that someday he'd like to see someone integrate TO's system and Oregon's system. The main advantage he'd like to see is that it could add some physicality to Kelly's speed based system.
However, on this matter, feedback seems mixed. Scott clearly has drunk the "Speed" Kool Aid that Kelly mixed. He chose his first landing spot on the basis of having a pipeline of available recruits. I have not seen enough UCF to tell if he's experimenting adding a more power approach, although that might be interesting for film junkies. It remains to be seen that Scott feels he should be the one to integrate the systems, and in the near term how he can run a Kelly-esque system that would mostly have to be imported to a state that churns out squatty lineman, walk-on level talent, and a couple legit D1 prospects.
His major challenge besides having to import everything, is what he describes as the chief advantage of Oregon's system. When Oregon steps on the field, they have a system that is built on all possible responses to a look. He notes that Oregon has been more successful than most, because most folks won't take Oregon's entire system, but only pieces of it. I get a feeling that this system doesn't apply just the playbook, but rather the whole process of training, practicing, etc.
What we're assuming is relatively easy (slapping some TO into the Oregon playbook) may not something that is near term achievable in Frost's early career as he is going to have many things to figure out, beyond reinventing offensive football forever.
I'd add to this that I don't think our fanbase will ever be able to tolerate the slow build. We are too reactionary. People always want a pound of flesh.
I disagree. Who could we get better than Scott Frost if he has another good year at UCF? They were 0-12 when he took over. A 6-game improvement is huge. Those who discount that are morons. Scott is a winner and always has been. He has played and worked under some of the best in the business. I don't expect him to be any different at NU should we be lucky enough to get him. He is the only one that matters.
Meanwhile, we lead the nation in INT's and our offensive line is the worst I've ever seen. Anybody else think that would continue with Scott Frost as our coach? Winners always win and he's a winner. Our current guy likes to float around .500 and will always float around .500. Doubt we even make it to .500 this year.
If Frost fails (and he won't), he's still our guy and he's a bad mofo. That is all.
Meanwhile, we lead the nation in INT's and our offensive line is the worst I've ever seen. Anybody else think that would continue with Scott Frost as our coach? Winners always win and he's a winner. Our current guy likes to float around .500 and will always float around .500. Doubt we even make it to .500 this year.
If Frost fails (and he won't), he's still our guy and he's a bad mofo. That is all.
