Frost Recruiting Blueprint?

[cornhustler]

What is Frost recruiting blueprint?

Frost said, “We’re going to have the type of program that will bring kids in from all over the country.” Frost also said, "we don’t need the No. 1 recruiting class in the country. We just need a top-25 class every year, and we can develop it"

So there you have it, Scott Frost's blueprint in his own words. He wants to recruit nationally and aims for a top 25 class every year.

If you need about 1750 points to get a top 25 class and we currently sit at 1080 points with 14 commits, NU seems to be on track. I wonder how many kids we take this cycle?

 

[HuskerHusaria]

Frost said, “We’re going to have the type of program that will bring kids in from all over the country.” Frost also said, "we don’t need the No. 1 recruiting class in the country. We just need a top-25 class every year, and we can develop it"

So there you have it, Scott Frost's blueprint in his own words. He wants to recruit nationally and aims for a top 25 class every year.

If you need about 1750 points to get a top 25 class and we currently sit at 1080 points with 14 commits, NU seems to be on track. I wonder how many kids we take this cycle?

In ok with anything Frost brings in. I am 100% bought in. I know this might sound dumb, but i am all-in.

I never felt good with Bill. I felt good with Bo, from the beginning. I was glad to see him gone. Mike? I gave him a chance... hard to forgive him for that BYU loss. I just couldn't seeing this work out.

Frost, i hope, will right the ship, if not now, keep him until trends change

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

The only thing I said was this Power 5 fallacy only applies to the SEC. There isn't any other conference buzzsaw out there.

Frost gets it. Urban gets it.

I am not sure what your argument is, other than the idea that Power 5 schedules are tougher than G6 schedules? That's obvious. Just don't tell me the Big 10 is better than the SEC, cuz that's nonsense.

So what the hell are you really talking about???

The entire conversation was based on the premis that you need nearly 50% of your roster to be 4/5 star kids to contend for and win a title. Then people wanted to use UCF as an example of how that isn’t true. I then provided evidence that suggest G6 schools that move leagues and have to play a P5 schedule don’t have the same level of success they enjoyed at the G6 level until they have been at that level for a couple of years. Then Oldjar made his comments and used only a few of the Big Ten teams to show that there is little difference between G6 and P5. To which you replied truth.

Now you start bringing up who gets what and dragging Urban Meyer into the conversation and are comparing the SEC and the Big Ten. An argument no one is making.

 

[dinglefritz]

The entire conversation was based on the premis that you need nearly 50% of your roster to be 4/5 star kids to contend for and win a title. .

The problem comes in when somebody whines about us settling for 3 stars at this stage of the recruiting cycle. We do not know where these kids are going to wind up in relation to star ranking and won't know that maybe until after a good chunk of them sign early. Frost did a pretty nice job with relatively average talent at UCF. I'm impressed with some of the kids he persuaded to go to UCF after their 0-12 and 6-6 seasons. I think he'll recruit just fine to NU and he won't be lazy about it like Frank and Bo.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Get into the top 15 and we will be a national contender

 

[Sinomatic]

Appreciate your view, but I think Florida blew it when they didn't gave him full institutional control and didn't assure his staff would come along as well. I live in Gator Nation. Their culture has become a Gatorpit. I think they have much less regard for "people" and more regard for "winning" and have lost a functional culture. Their solution is to bring in a top Dixieland coach...we'll see if that works.

Scott's wife liked Orlando, from all reports, and isn't a Nebraska native.

And winning the West, or at least contesting it with Wisky (and having a better or contrasting offensive scheme to recruit to), well, that is something unique to Nebraska. He's from Nebraska, he won Titles at Nebraska, he knows the entire state is behind him. GBR

Interesting take about Florida losing out on SF over institutional control. I think you put too much importance on that vice everything you listed in your last paragraph.

Even if Florida gave him full reign, and Tom telling him the university is behind him back home, I would bet my bank on him coming to Nebraska, especially if his coaches were cool with it. All things being equal I think he comes home even if a few coaches stay in Florida, which one did(OC?) and then did eventually come here.

His wife isn't from Florida either. And they have the money to visit Arizona from either state.

Not to mention his parents get to see their grandbaby...at least one set of their parents gets to see him on a regular basis at Nebraska.

I don't think his staff, or wife even, says no to Frost coming back to Nebraska to give it a go, I think they know how much it would mean to him based if only on his comments so far.

All things being equal I would bet all I own on him choosing Nebraska.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

The problem comes in when somebody whines about us settling for 3 stars at this stage of the recruiting cycle. We do not know where these kids are going to wind up in relation to star ranking and won't know that maybe until after a good chunk of them sign early. Frost did a pretty nice job with relatively average talent at UCF. I'm impressed with some of the kids he persuaded to go to UCF after their 0-12 and 6-6 seasons. I think he'll recruit just fine to NU and he won't be lazy about it like Frank and Bo.

So I’ll ask since you seem to believe that a majority of those 2 or 3stars are going to move up. Over/ under on the number of Rivals 4/5 star players? I’ll set the number at 8.

 

[dinglefritz]

So I’ll ask since you seem to believe that a majority of those 2 or 3stars are going to move up. Over/ under on the number of Rivals 4/5 star players? I’ll set the number at 8.

I don't know if a majority will move up or not. All I can do is believe one of the recruiting analysts on the radio who said that he thought some of them were going to move up. So whether its 8 or 18 that are 4 stars when its all said and done, I have no idea. I just know that its a little ridiculous to get worried about it in July before they've played their senior year.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I don't know if a majority will move up or not. All I can do is believe one of the recruiting analysts on the radio who said that he thought some of them were going to move up. So whether its 8 or 18 that are 4 stars when its all said and done, I have no idea. I just know that its a little ridiculous to get worried about it in July before they've played their senior year.

Ha ha ok. So if we have to wait until after everything is final, should we put a moratorium on all predictions for the 2018 season? I heard an analyst on the radio say we will only win 6 games. I have no idea. I just know it’s a little ridiculous to get worried about it in July before they have played a single game.

I guess we should only discuss positive stuff or stuff from the past that we can prove. Nah. Because someone will just bring up the fact that no team, in the past 10 years, has won a National title without having 50% of their roster as 4 or 5 star recruits.

 

[oldjar07]

Ha ha ok. So if we have to wait until after everything is final, should we put a moratorium on all predictions for the 2018 season? I heard an analyst on the radio say we will only win 6 games. I have no idea. I just know it’s a little ridiculous to get worried about it in July before they have played a single game.

I guess we should only discuss positive stuff or stuff from the past that we can prove. Nah. Because someone will just bring up the fact that no team, in the past 10 years, has won a National title without having 50% of their roster as 4 or 5 star recruits.

There's a lot more college football history than just 10 years. And the fact that we've always relied on developing players rather than just having a collection of the best athletes. What was our star ranking for our roster in 1970-1971?

 

[HuskerO]

There's a lot more college football history than just 10 years. And the fact that we've always relied on developing players rather than just having a collection of the best athletes. What was our star ranking for our roster in 1970-1971?

Were Nebraska's recruiting rankings bad back then?

 

[oldjar07]

Were Nebraska's recruiting rankings bad back then?

I don't know. I really want to know if 50% of our players were 4 and 5 stars because everyone knows you can't win a championship without that.

 

[Skerz4Life50]

I don't know. I really want to know if 50% of our players were 4 and 5 stars because everyone knows you can't win a championship without that.

 

[jlb321]

I don't know. I really want to know if 50% of our players were 4 and 5 stars because everyone knows you can't win a championship without that.

I don’t recall anyone claiming that it is impossible to win a national title with a blue chip ratio of <50% - just that it hasn’t happened in more than a decade. I’m sure it will happen sometime in the future. When it does I’m sure the geniuses will be out in full force clamoring about how the few exceptions disprove the rule. Just like they believe that smoking isn’t harmful because they had an uncle who smoked 3 packs/day and lived to a 100.

 

[HuskerO]

I don't know. I really want to know if 50% of our players were 4 and 5 stars because everyone knows you can't win a championship without that.

Going back to '70-'71 to try and prove your point isn't going to help you.

Shoot just go back the past 20 years and you'll have your answer (which I don't think you're going to like)...

 

[barisinger]

Going back to '70-'71 to try and prove your point isn't going to help you.

Shoot just go back the past 20 years and you'll have your answer (which I don't think you're going to like)...

Thank you for a great thread. Differences of opinions, different statistics, and the conversation was held at an adult level. It is great to have a sensible conversation between sensible people.