Fred, Fred, Fred.....
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Creighton was established before Altman, they had a lot of success under McManus, Eddie Sutton, and Tony Barone (multiple Sweet 16 appearances, and that was back when only 25 teams made the tournament). They went through a tough stretch in the early and mid 90s at a time when Nee had success at Nebraska. But overall, they have always been a much more successful program than Nebraska. Nebraska has never had any sustained success, just a few decent seasons overall mixed in with many mediocre to awful seasons.
And McDermott was terrible at Iowa State. He went 59-68 there and never had a winning season. He went 18-46 in Big 12 conference play (which was much worse than Sadler's win % in Big 12 play). If we hired someone with that resume now, nobody would be happy.
Ironically, Hoiberg was the one who came in after him and turned ISU around in only 2 years.
You’re right! I had completely forgotten that. Conversely, Altman had a fairly successful 4 year period at K State.
Creighton may have had more success way back when, but for a 20+ year stretch between '78-'98 here is the comparison:
NU: 7 20-win seasons, 5 NCAA tournament appearances, 0 NCAA tournament wins
CU: 5 20 win seasons, 3 NCAA tournament appearances, 1 NCAA tournament wins
Head to head record: NU 16 wins, CU 6 wins
Point being, for 2+ decades, Creighton was no better than NU and arguably worse. The kids Altman and McDermott recruited to help build Creighton into the program they are today likely cared as much about what success CU had under McManus and Sutton as kids Matt Rhule is recruiting today care about NU's under Bob Devaney.
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McDermott was very fortunate because his long time buddy Creighton’s AD Rasmussen needed a coach and came calling. McDermott was just about ready to be let go at Iowa State because things weren’t going well. He grabbed his kid and went to Omaha and things worked out for him. Hoiberg took over at Iowa State and got things going in the right direction.
I read that Fred was Big XII Co Coach of the Year with Bill Self one year. Combining that with sharing the award with Matt Painter last year is quite impressive. What I’m curious about is why did he leave Iowa State after only 5 years? He was successful and loved there. His success overall and in conference play compared to Nebraska is just startling. We literally destroy coaches here.
He was hired by the Bulls.
Hoiberg built his rosters at ISU on transfers when no one else was doing it. Now, every one is doing it.
Current Jerry Palm, bracketology has us out. University of Omaha is in.
If we go 0-3 during this upcoming very difficult stretch, stick a fork in us
Bubble shaping up to be very small & not too soft this year with all the bids the SEC, B12 and B1G will soak up
Bubble shaping up to be very small & not too soft this year with all the bids the SEC, B12 and B1G will soak up
After playing in the NBA, then in Player Development even after having job security as Iowa State's head coach for probably the rest of his lifetime the lure of coaching in the NBA was too hard for him to pass up. He always had that aspiration. The Iowa State faithful to this day still can't believe he left Ames for the NBA.
