France taking it to ISIS

[starbrown]

Another revealing aspect of the left's thinking. They don't think America or our allies have ever defeated evil.

We brought Communism to its knees. Same goes for Nazism. Same goes for Slavers. But you ask a progressive, they will tell you America has never won a war. American ideals are evil and why the world is an unfair place.

 

[TheBeav815]

This "Tough Guy" has a handicap, no branch of the service wanted me, not even as a remf. If you have a heathy body, I'll trade you. I'm 69 yrs old and I will kill as many of these assholes as possible when they bring their BS here.

How 'bout you? What have you done Mr. Lib?

Why you letting that stop you? Grab those guns and head on over, you don't have to enlist. You can be the guy who said "damn the torpedoes" and went over there to "kill as many of these assholes as possible." You'll be a legend! I bet you get SHIT TONS of likes on the internet! But you won't do that, you'll just talk on a message board about what you *would do* if they came here, because you know they won't and you'll never have to actually risk anything.

What I do is have the courtesy to let those whose lives are actually on the line do their jobs. And their COs, and the people in the chain of command who have to live with it on their conscience when they send a battalion of kids in knowing they won't all come back.

I give them a little Goddamned credit that they thought it through and that if there were some way to do the thing, they'd have done it by now because they didn't sign up to half-ass it and it's not some game of playing tough guy to them. When they've been there, they've buried friends, they've come back and they say the civilians are good people, they say it's a nightmare conflict with no end in sight, I listen to them.

How embarrassing that you are so entrenched in wanting to *stick it to some liberals* that you're multi-posting a photo of a blood-smeared stage from Friday and running your yap about who has more likes. What an absolute caricature you are. Are you even a real person, or am I being catfished by some college kid pretending to be the dumbest, most insulting stereotype he can think up?

 

[TheBeav815]

Actually if you would do a little research you would see that there have been a couple of attacks per year in the U.S. since 2008. However, due to pure dumb luck, a large number of them have been unsuccessful (shoe bomber, underwear bomber and New York car bomb). None of these terrorist were rocket scientist. Most of them did not act alone and in fact received training overseas.
Additionally, even if the number was only 2, I suspect the relatives of those victims don't consider the number insignificant.

You gonna offer up numbers on how many they stopped or do you just cherry pick whatever fits your confirmation bias?

 

[big red22]

Ideologies have never recognized geopolitical boundaries. They also aren't confined to people who have certain skin colors or hair styles. The American public has a gross misperception about how this "war on terrorism" is going to be fought.

As a people we are outraged by the slaughter in Paris ... but where was the same outcry in 2013 in the Westgate Mall shooting in Kenya which killed 67 people? How about the outcry when genuinely innocent people are killed in errant drone strikes?

If a terrorist sympathizer lived in your neighborhood and the government sanctioned a strike which killed the bad guy and it happened to kill your wife and child, would you passively accept that you deserved it? Would you compassionately understand?

Unfortunately, I hear a ridiculous amount of ignorant crap being spouted as though unmitigated violence will resolve the problem. I was on active duty for 12 years. I've buried at least one friend under the age of 40 every single year since 2002.

Some of the resident internet geniuses might take a moment and ask why our military strategy/foreign policy has completely failed while simultaneously costing us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives. This month well over 100 veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan will die by their own hands. War is not a video game. The people on the other side of the map are not inherently evil. Some of them are incredibly bad people. They are assholes.

We didn't condemn the entire Catholic church because a few hundred men in leadership positions decided to use their position to rape young boys. Why not stereotype and label all Catholics?

The Westboro Baptist Church claims to be Baptist. Why not just admit that all Baptists are flaming hate-mongers?

You know why we don't do this? Because we personally know good Catholics and Baptists. We know that a few assholes don't represent everyone under a certain label. I've been deployed to Iraq. I've met hundreds of Iraqi families. By and large, they are great freaking people. Not terribly different from you and I in the areas that matter most.

They want their kids to grow up safe. They want their kids to have a better life than they did. If the only Muslims I'd ever met were the ones trying to blow me up, I'd probably hate them all too. Fortunately, I met hundreds more and found we have a little thing called humanity in common.

I get my disability check from the VA each month. I paid my price in combat. Every Senator and Representative who votes to send our people to war should be required to go with them or volunteer their spouse, son, or daughter to go into combat.

War is a very real and occasionally very necessary thing. However, it isn't real when you don't have any skin in the game. Stop with the anti-Muslim rhetoric. Its nothing more than fear stemming from your ignorant stereotypes. We're Americans. We've done this fear-mongering thing before. We've run Japanese concentration camps on American soil before.

Don't do it. Don't allow assholes (ISIS) to make us assholes. Deal with the problem in a carefully considered rational manner that will produce the desired end results. ISIS clearly knew they would engender a massive emotional reaction. We need to make sure that we don't play right into their hands.

Thank you for your service, and also this post!

 

[tarheelhusker]

What I'd like to know, is when is the Whitehouse going to announce the number of Christians from Syria, Libya and Iraq that are going to be admitted into the US. They are the ones being beheaded and persecuted but I haven't heard a word as to how we are going to protect them. Where is the media on this abomination and injustice?

Obozo said today that there will be no religious test for refugees/asylum seekers. Since there are far more Moslems trying to immigrate I think that means few if any Christians will be included.

Consider also the lying is permitted of jihadists and we have zero means of checking anyone, no records, no papers, no nothing, and your answer should be clear.

His public statement comes down to: "We are not going to do anything really different to combat ISIS. And more innocent people will be killed in ISIS terrorist attacks. That's it, that's all I got. Have a nice day."

Meanwhile, he releases 5 more hardened Gitmo terrorists-- sets terrorists free as birds to re-arm, train, and kill more of us. If this were not a fact, it would be hard to imagine.

Says that he will continue to bring in--ultimately-- hundreds of thousands of unvetted Syrian "refugees." This while some of the Paris attackers posed as Syrian refugees. Oh, that won't happen here!

Not just a few tinfoil hatters, but millions of Americans-- maybe tens of millions-- have come to realize the terrible truth that their president is a traitor. And if he is not a traitor, his actions and non-actions constitute a perfect imitation of a traitor.

Three days after teams of Islamic State terrorists brazenly carried out raids across Paris that left 129 people dead, Obozo labeled the slaughter a "setback" in responding to questions about his policies.

"There will be setbacks and there will be successes. The terrible events in Paris were obviously a terrible and sickening setback," Prez Obozo...Setbacks....Setbacks, the man said.

 

[TheBeav815]

What I'd like to know, is when is the Whitehouse going to announce the number of Christians from Syria, Libya and Iraq that are going to be admitted into the US. They are the ones being beheaded and persecuted but I haven't heard a word as to how we are going to protect them. Where is the media on this abomination and injustice?

Obozo said today that there will be no religious test for refugees/asylum seekers. Since there are far more Moslems trying to immigrate I think that means few if any Christians will be included.

Consider also the lying is permitted of jihadists and we have zero means of checking anyone, no records, no papers, no nothing, and your answer should be clear.

His public statement comes down to: "We are not going to do anything really different to combat ISIS. And more innocent people will be killed in ISIS terrorist attacks. That's it, that's all I got. Have a nice day."

Meanwhile, he releases 5 more hardened Gitmo terrorists-- sets terrorists free as birds to re-arm, train, and kill more of us. If this were not a fact, it would be hard to imagine.

Says that he will continue to bring in--ultimately-- hundreds of thousands of unvetted Syrian "refugees." This while some of the Paris attackers posed as Syrian refugees. Oh, that won't happen here!

Not just a few tinfoil hatters, but millions of Americans-- maybe tens of millions-- have come to realize the terrible truth that their president is a traitor. And if he is not a traitor, his actions and non-actions constitute a perfect imitation of a traitor.

Three days after teams of Islamic State terrorists brazenly carried out raids across Paris that left 129 people dead, Obozo labeled the slaughter a "setback" in responding to questions about his policies.

"There will be setbacks and there will be successes. The terrible events in Paris were obviously a terrible and sickening setback," Prez Obozo...Setbacks....Setbacks, the man said.

There it is, you're a troll. You don't really believe this stuff, nobody is this dumb in real life. I've been hooked.

 

[jay-cheese]

Beav...there is no reasoning being done here. This is quite possibly the WORST message board on the internet to discuss anything outside of husker football...especially politics. If you do, you'll find proof (via anonymous posters) of the hate, spin, and simply the most unintelligent rehashed opinions avail in society. There is no true discussion that is even remotely possible. However, if you want rhetoric, fear mongering, sensationalism...you'll get all that you ever wanted. Have fun

 

[SnohomishRed]

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Terrorism

there are some startling numbers here and I am not sure if all true and some look old but still startling

The belief that terrorism is justifiable in the defense of Islam, while less extensive than in previous surveys, still has a sizable number of adherents. Among Nigeria's Muslim population, for instance, nearly half (46%) feel that suicide bombings can be justified often or sometimes in the defense of Islam. Even among Europe's Muslim minorities, roughly one-in-seven in France, Spain, and Great Britain feel that suicide bombings against civilian targets can at least sometimes be justified to defend Islam against its enemies.[15]

 

[big red22]

What I'd like to know, is when is the Whitehouse going to announce the number of Christians from Syria, Libya and Iraq that are going to be admitted into the US. They are the ones being beheaded and persecuted but I haven't heard a word as to how we are going to protect them. Where is the media on this abomination and injustice?

Obozo said today that there will be no religious test for refugees/asylum seekers. Since there are far more Moslems trying to immigrate I think that means few if any Christians will be included.

Consider also the lying is permitted of jihadists and we have zero means of checking anyone, no records, no papers, no nothing, and your answer should be clear.

His public statement comes down to: "We are not going to do anything really different to combat ISIS. And more innocent people will be killed in ISIS terrorist attacks. That's it, that's all I got. Have a nice day."

Meanwhile, he releases 5 more hardened Gitmo terrorists-- sets terrorists free as birds to re-arm, train, and kill more of us. If this were not a fact, it would be hard to imagine.

Says that he will continue to bring in--ultimately-- hundreds of thousands of unvetted Syrian "refugees." This while some of the Paris attackers posed as Syrian refugees. Oh, that won't happen here!

Not just a few tinfoil hatters, but millions of Americans-- maybe tens of millions-- have come to realize the terrible truth that their president is a traitor. And if he is not a traitor, his actions and non-actions constitute a perfect imitation of a traitor.

Three days after teams of Islamic State terrorists brazenly carried out raids across Paris that left 129 people dead, Obozo labeled the slaughter a "setback" in responding to questions about his policies.

"There will be setbacks and there will be successes. The terrible events in Paris were obviously a terrible and sickening setback," Prez Obozo...Setbacks....Setbacks, the man said.

You lost me at Obozo...

 

[TheBeav815]

Beav...there is no reasoning being done here. This is quite possibly the WORST message board on the internet to discuss anything outside of husker football...especially politics. If you do, you'll find proof (via anonymous posters) of the hate, spin, and simply the most unintelligent rehashed opinions avail in society. There is no true discussion that is even remotely possible. However, if you want rhetoric, fear mongering, sensationalism...you'll get all that you ever wanted. Have fun

Oh I'm not here to educate them. I'm just to point out what a bunch of saber rattling pussies most of them are. "You know the type, loud as a motorbike but wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight."

 

[tarheelhusker]

I thought you were better Beav, you are a disappointment .

 

[TheBeav815]

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Terrorism

there are some startling numbers here and I am not sure if all true and some look old but still startling

The belief that terrorism is justifiable in the defense of Islam, while less extensive than in previous surveys, still has a sizable number of adherents. Among Nigeria's Muslim population, for instance, nearly half (46%) feel that suicide bombings can be justified often or sometimes in the defense of Islam. Even among Europe's Muslim minorities, roughly one-in-seven in France, Spain, and Great Britain feel that suicide bombings against civilian targets can at least sometimes be justified to defend Islam against its enemies.[15]

He said, in a thread full of a bunch of Christians who are concerned we're not doing enough killing to protect Christian people...

 

[Archie Graham]

Rational thought: America defeated Nazism.

Just America? How do you suppose the western front would have changed had Stalin's Red Army not been sacrificing millions to defend the east?

 

[TheBeav815]

I thought you were better Beav, you are a disappointment .

Better than what? Either you're the best troll on the whole board and it's all an act, or you have the world view of a functional retard who was raised in isolation with only reruns of Rush Limbaugh to keep him company.

An actual conversation about rational thoughts and solutions broke out, and you skipped the whole thing. So you're a troll or a dipshit. How gracefully should I treat you?

 

[SnohomishRed]

He said, in a thread full of a bunch of Christians who are concerned we're not doing enough killing to protect Christian people...

come again? I take issue with you accusing me of that

 

[jteten]

You can look through the thread for yourself, and I certainly don't have all the answers, but there's everything from nuke them all to shut down every business that ever tangentially remotely related to terrorism.

Most have no basis in reality, other than the fact that we're pissed at ISIS and its the thing we can think of when our fingers hit the keyboard.

It doesn't take inventing reasoned thinking to see that.

I think the reality of ISIS and the size and scope is simply too much for most people (not just liberals) to handle. You are looking for reasoned solutions to an unreasonable threat. You dont have any answers. I dont have any answers. The extreme military types dont have answers. But there is one thing I am sure of, the messages coming from this administration and the liberal masses is not the right answer. This threat continues to grow like colon cancer and it appears to me that Barack Obama and the rest of the liberal masses do not want to have a colonoscopy......just continue to ignore the symptons and drink plenty of antioxidents.

 

[TheBeav815]

come again? I take issue with you accusing me of that

I just don't get why that surprised you. OF COURSE they'd go to war if they felt their lives and beliefs were under attack. That's what pretty much everyone but religions based on sworn pacifism would do.

 

[TheBeav815]

I think the reality of ISIS and the size and scope is simply too much for most people (not just liberals) to handle. You are looking for reasoned solutions to an unreasonable threat. You dont have any answers. I dont have any answers. The extreme military types dont have answers. But there is one thing I am sure of, the messages coming from this administration and the liberal masses is not the right answer. This threat continues to grow like colon cancer and it appears to me that Barack Obama and the rest of the liberal masses do not want to have a colonoscopy......just continue to ignore the symptons and drink plenty of antioxidents.

Well you didn't need long to contradict yourself there. "I don't know how anyone can possibly solve this thing and I have no solution, but let me tell you about how I blame liberals for not solving it..."

 

[SnohomishRed]

I just don't get why that surprised you. OF COURSE they'd go to war if they felt their lives and beliefs were under attack. That's what pretty much everyone but religions based on sworn pacifism would do.

I somehow do not believe these terrorists when they were spraying the crowd with bullets stopped to ask each one if they were Christian or not - This group kills everyone no exceptions I am sure there were some Muslims killed

 

[Lincoln100]

Oh I'm not here to educate them. I'm just to point out what a bunch of saber rattling pussies most of them are. "You know the type, loud as a motorbike but wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight."

Says the guy who doesn't want to do get involved to defend against religious cleansing because it's not "happening here."

 

[starbrown]

That's the dirty little secret. A country this big is too big to protect from everything. If you start "Red Cell-ing" (ie playing the what if game for the DoD), there's a myriad of ways people of ill intent can kill Americans. You can't defend against them all.

Snohomish and a few others have indicated that success is only when the number of attacks is zero, well, long story short, the number will never be zero.

It will never be zero but you want to use that truth as an excuse not to fight evil. Too bad you and Beav never saw this movie.

We're only 45 days away from 2016 and the Prediction of where the world would be headed was spot on. Hussein has been a friend to every anarchist and anti-western movement across the planet. He spends a big chunk of his time praising the Mizzou fraud-artists - and an equal chunk of his time throwing mud at Christians. He's made sure Iran will thrive and Israel will be victimized. And his followers are in this thread claiming the mantle of REASONED thought.

From Occupy BS - to dismantling the borders - to attacking the rule of law - to IRS targeting - to EPA pollution & Nazi tactics - to the global warming religion - to fast and furious fail - to tearing down 5000 year old institutions - to Osamacare - to benghazi - to hitting the reset button on geopolitics - to attacking the 1st and 2nd amendment - to flying thousands in from south of the border - to bringing in 100,000+ fighting age men from terrorist countries without vetting any of them - to stirring the pot in florida, ferguson, etc. - to redirecting federal money to 200 sanctuary cities - to constant attacks on capitalism - to sucking up to Castro brothers - to crony capitalism like Solyndra, Fisker, etc. - to promoting a war on cops - to promoting hatred between the races - to U of Virginia false fraternity-rape allegations - to the Berkley fraud - to the Mizzou fraud - to ramping up KGB-like monitoring tactics - to anti-Israel BS - to closing down Guantanamo and bringing the evil men close to our children - to exchanging 5 terrorist leaders for Manchurian candidate Bo Bergdahl - to the insane Iranian treaty - to destroying the coal industry - I MEAN IT GOES ON FOREVER!

DINESH D'SOUZA nailed it. The evil that will bring us down is the evil we keep putting into office.

In 2009/2013 he put his hand on a bible and swore to protect, defend and uphold the constitution. And now federal courts are telling him he is the greatest threat to that document in 200 years.

 

[TheBeav815]

Alright, you all have been TONS OF FUN today, but I'm going home and I probably won't be posting til tomorrow.

I'm going to do what I suggest you all do: Play Call of Duty. It's a magical place where you can be pretend tough and pretend shoot pretend guys in a pretend world with pretend guns as much as you want. For a damned dirty tree-****ing pacifist hippie socialist libtard, I'm pretty damned good at it.

I really think it would help some of you get out all that pent-up aggression you're so obviously struggling with.

 

[tarheelhusker]

Reduced to name calling Beav? Please refrain from using the word retard, I have Austic friends. Be glad you have been blessed. I won't lower myself to name calling....

I am a conservative, you a liberal. We will never think alike until we need each other to defend our country.

 

[NebChicago]

This was the worst thread ever. Please axe it mods

 

[jteten]

Well you didn't need long to contradict yourself there. "I don't know how anyone can possibly solve this thing and I have no solution, but let me tell you about how I blame liberals for not solving it..."

You reword my thoughts and do not disagree with my post. Got it.

 

[starbrown]

Reduced to name calling Beav? Please refrain from using the word retard, I have Austic friends. Be glad you have been blessed. I won't lower myself to name calling....

I am a conservative, you a liberal. We will never think alike until we need each other to defend our country.

He will NEVER defend America. He sees it in the same negative way as the person he voted for.

 

[Huskerlife39]

There was never a time that Beav wasn't name calling. His arguments are weak and unsupported by fact. If you don't provide links he belittles your information. If you provide links he bemoans the source thereby never having to refute what's presented. In Beav's world America is the cause of the world's problems and if we would just hug it out we could stop these mean old Muslims. He accuses everyone of being a coward when in truth the only coward in the thread is him!