Former Nebraska coach Tom Osborne to headline two UCF fundraisers

[nebcountry]

What kind of a "connection" is it you're looking for?

I don't live in Nebraska anymore, it's a "you'll have to tell me" scenario. If I read things NU related, seldom is TO mentioned other than as a historical reference to days gone by.

From what I've read, Bookie liked Milt.

I'm sure Frost reached out to Osborne and if so, then I'm all for Osborne supporting one of his former players. I think that's what great man does regardless of which school they're at.

I guess I don't see Osborne promoting UCF as giving Nebraska the finger.

I don't see him as giving NU the finger, and Frost reaching out to him is the most obvious answer.

If someone were to read my first post, not look for anger/sarcasm/smart aleck,you might see genuine curiosity. Our program was basically built by two men, one of them passed 20 years ago. I'm a fan of the program.

 

[DukeOfSorrow]

I'm sure Frost reached out to Osborne and if so, then I'm all for Osborne supporting one of his former players. I think that's what great man does regardless of which school they're at.

I guess I don't see Osborne promoting UCF as giving Nebraska the finger.

Obviously it's not. For TO, he team was about family, not about worshipping the letter N. He looks out for all of his old players and supports them in his endeavors however he can within reason. So... something any one of us would appreciate out of a former coach.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

1. You might want to talk to some posters here about how their "lack of support angle is wrong" if we are not supposed to care what TO thinks.
2. You might make things easier on Tom and Nancy if, the next time you had dinner, you gave him a list of things Tom was supposed to say and things he was not supposed to say about Riley and Nebraska football. He's getting on in years and he doesn't deserve all of these disgruntled fans. Oh, tell him "Hi" from my father-in-law, his old nemesis from Kearney State. He'll know who he is talking about.

You misunderstand .........still.

This has NOTHING to do with how Osborne does anything. It has everything to do with how people need his approval. Writers, fans, radio and tv media everyone wants his opinion on everything so they know how to feel about a topic. Why is this so difficult for you to understand.

If Shatel or Sipple writes a piece that says Tom Osborne called yesterday to give his take on the scout stadium expansion that is one thing. That isn't what I am talking about. Leave the man alone. I guess he could say I have no comment, but then people would draw their own conclusions about that.

Damn dude I don't know how much more clear I can be.

 

[Toms Wife]

You misunderstand .........still.

This has NOTHING to do with how Osborne does anything. It has everything to do with how people need his approval. Writers, fans, radio and tv media everyone wants his opinion on everything so they know how to feel about a topic. Why is this so difficult for you to understand.

If Shatel or Sipple writes a piece that says Tom Osborne called yesterday to give his take on the scout stadium expansion that is one thing. That isn't what I am talking about. Leave the man alone. I guess he could say I have no comment, but then people would draw their own conclusions about that.

Damn dude I don't know how much more clear I can be.

Ummmm...I already said earlier in this thread, "Let the current people at the helm sink or swim on their own."

However, this board and some in this thread act like TO is sabotaging the program. They want him to say in the parlance of this board (at least in regard to high school boys), "Mike Riley 'is my guy'."

And I'm not your dude.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Ummmm...I already said earlier in this thread, "Let the current people at the helm sink or swim on their own."

However, this board and some in this thread act like TO is sabotaging the program. They want him to say in the parlance of this board (at least in regard to high school boys), "Mike Riley 'is my guy'."

And I'm not your dude.

Great. Those people aren't me. Princess.

 

[coachDubs]

Damn

Tulsa Tom is a solid troll, he's hooked ya.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

My comments have nothing to do with Osborne. I didn't mention his accomplishments in a negative light one time. In fact I was very complimentary of his record as football coach. I just find it odd that people will look to him and his reactions as some sort of guidance to right and wrong. If TO likes Bo, then I like Bo. If TO says you can't pass than you can't pass. If TO didn't come out in full support of Riley from the beginning, then he must think it's a bad hire. I will follow suit.

I could speculate that the OP posted this "story" as a way to dig at the current regime. Look Osborne is helping Frost, as if this is some way of endorsing Frost to be the next head coach.

That's it. Nothing negative about Osborne.

That's just plain stupid. You have a reading problem.

There was another thread about Frost and Ole Miss and I clearly stated Frost doesn't need Ole Miss with the respect he has earned from TO and Phil Knight.

You school girls are all the sme reading between lines instead of what is clear.

 

[Bugeater]

I think a fair number are upset with TO because he hired Erstad, Pelini, and Miles. I can't disagree with them. That's three average to below average hires, IMO. Pelini only came close to winning a conference title once, and got smoked in conference title games twice. Miles appears to be further away from a conference title than when he was hired, and it took Erstad 6 years to get there in a below average baseball conference.

That being said, I've said for quite some time that TO bought a lot of good will with what he did for our football program and athletic programs in general, so I think you gotta give him a pass on his below average hires.

I believe he came close against OU in the Big 12 title game, and of course, Texas. Not so much with Wisconsin.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

That's just plain stupid. You have a reading problem.

There was another thread about Frost and Ole Miss and I clearly stated Frost doesn't need Ole Miss with the respect he has earned from TO and Phil Knight.

You school girls are all the sme reading between lines instead of what is clear.

Got those Internet muscles flexin don't ya?

 

[dinglefritz]

People are still mad that T.O. hired Pelini, even though 99% of the fanbase was begging him to hire Pelini at the time when he was leading LSU's defense to a championship while Cosgrove was giving up 70 points a game to KU and CU.

I don't understand the argument that T.O. doesn't support the program anymore. He attended practice several times last year when Riley invited him. But otherwise, he's not going to get in the way. If he was hanging around the program all the time, people would just criticize him for that too. He's spending most of this time now with the Teammates mentoring program helping at-risk kids. Good for him.

There is no way in hell that 99% of the fan base was begging Tom to hire Pelini. Not even remotely close. It was a couple of heavy hitter boosters who golfed with Bo and a few former players. Hell Frank Solich even told Tom not to hire Bo when Tom asked him what he thought. MOST fans thought Bo was under qualified but hey if that's who Tom thought was the best option they were on board. Every single last soul who I personally know wanted Turner Gill. Period. Lots of people on the message boards were pulling for names from all over. FEW had Pelini in their top 10. Tom went with one of the cheapest guys he could get that would retain some of Callahan's staff.

 

[coachDubs]

You school girls are all the sme reading between lines instead of what is clear.

Priceless after you spent 7 years on your knees in front of Peelini. Praying, begging, who knows what you were doing. You're the Sipple of the HOL free board.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

Priceless after you spent 7 years on your knees in front of Peelini. Praying, begging, who knows what you were doing. You're the Sipple of the HOL free board.

Fake

 

[Truehuskerfan]

There is no way in hell that 99% of the fan base was begging Tom to hire Pelini. Not even remotely close. It was a couple of heavy hitter boosters who golfed with Bo and a few former players. Hell Frank Solich even told Tom not to hire Bo when Tom asked him what he thought. MOST fans thought Bo was under qualified but hey if that's who Tom thought was the best option they were on board. Every single last soul who I personally know wanted Turner Gill. Period. Lots of people on the message boards were pulling for names from all over. FEW had Pelini in their top 10. Tom went with one of the cheapest guys he could get that would retain some of Callahan's staff.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I agree there's no way that it was anywhere close to 99% that wanted Bo, but I don't think Gill was nearly as popular of a choice as you suggest. My memory is that it was mostly the Tradition Coalition types that wanted Gill. But there plenty that were not on board with Gill too. Bo had his strong supporters, and then there were people like me who weren't necessarily big fans of Bo who wanted him only because we felt like he was marginally more qualified than Gill. The biggest problem was that it had to be one of those two.

 

[jlb321]

None of this decade long bickering would exist had Houston Nutt just boarded that plane sitting on the tarmac in Little Rock destined for Lincoln.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

None of this decade long bickering would exist had Houston Nutt just boarded that plane sitting on the tarmac in Little Rock destined for Lincoln.

Did anyone ask TO if that was an acceptable alternative?? WWTD??

 

[coachDubs]

Fake

You libs love #fake

 

[Hoosker Du]

I believe he came close against OU in the Big 12 title game, and of course, Texas. Not so much with Wisconsin.

I believe we started out with a 17-0 lead over OU, then they ended up beating us something like 35-17, so we got pounded by them after coming out and scoring three quick times. It wasn't close at the end.

Edit - I stand corrected. I thought OU ended up scoring more than just 23 that game. I guess it ended up fairly close, but I thought they completely outplayed us for the last 3 quarters.

 

[inWV]

TO gave a whole bunch of himself to NU. Dude that s getting on in years and will give his 2 cents sparingly. That is his way.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

I believe we started out with a 17-0 lead over OU, then they ended up beating us something like 35-17, so we got pounded by them after coming out and scoring three quick times. It wasn't close at the end.

That sounds an awful lot like the 2001 game. Frankie out-thought himself that day

 

[huskerfan1414]

I believe we started out with a 17-0 lead over OU, then they ended up beating us something like 35-17, so we got pounded by them after coming out and scoring three quick times. It wasn't close at the end.

Edit - I stand corrected. I thought OU ended up scoring more than just 23 that game. I guess it ended up fairly close, but I thought they completely outplayed us for the last 3 quarters.

I blamed Watson for that game. Ugh! (Or whoever was in charge of O)

 

[DukeOfSorrow]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I agree there's no way that it was anywhere close to 99% that wanted Bo, but I don't think Gill was nearly as popular of a choice as you suggest. My memory is that it was mostly the Tradition Coalition types that wanted Gill. But there plenty that were not on board with Gill too. Bo had his strong supporters, and then there were people like me who weren't necessarily big fans of Bo who wanted him only because we felt like he was marginally more qualified than Gill. The biggest problem was that it had to be one of those two.

Top 3 mentions were definely Gill, Pelini and Grobe. Then some insider info came out that Grobe wasn't interested. Other names were thrown around of course those were the main ones I remember hearing.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

I get the Osborne worship to a point, but some of you all remind me of the teenage girls they would show at Elvis or the Beatles concerts.

Now you're going to get sensitive and try justify to me how great he was and how he deserves to be worshiped.

Tom Osborne - Great football coach, great citizen, average athletic director.

 

[dinglefritz]

Top 3 mentions were definely Gill, Pelini and Grobe. Then some insider info came out that Grobe wasn't interested. Other names were thrown around of course those were the main ones I remember hearing.

Grobe was definitely mentioned a bunch along with Golden et al. Pelini IMO didn't really come up from many until his name was floated by some former players which happened pretty quickly because those guys were all over trying to get rid of BC long before he was canned. Bo was not remotely qualified to be NU's head coach.

 

[DukeOfSorrow]

Grobe was definitely mentioned a bunch along with Golden et al. Pelini IMO didn't really come up from many until his name was floated by some former players which happened pretty quickly because those guys were all over trying to get rid of BC long before he was canned. Bo was not remotely qualified to be NU's head coach.

Of course not. NU was taking a shot on a guy who we knew was defensive minded, had previously coached in Lincoln, and was close to HC offers already.

You're going to have trouble finding a guy "qualified" to take the job that will actually take it, anyway.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Fair enough, but if UCF ever beats us his name should be removed from the field.

If Nebraska loses to UCF, TO might meet you on the field with a bucket of paint.

 

[bigboxes]

Tulsa Tom is a solid troll, he's hooked ya.

He sure does get a lot of people worked up. I stopped being a victim a while ago. Wasted quite a few years responding to shit that he'd made up. Finally figured out his MO and stopped taking the bait.

 

[dinglefritz]

Of course not. NU was taking a shot on a guy who we knew was defensive minded, had previously coached in Lincoln, and was close to HC offers already.

You're going to have trouble finding a guy "qualified" to take the job that will actually take it, anyway.

Exactly what other top flight Power 5 program was going to hire Bo? Same as now. None. It was a reach at the insistence of some mega boosters. He had never run a program and hated to recruit. It also was clear to Frank and he told Tom that Bo lacked the temperament to run a major program.

 

[mel mains]

Exactly what other top flight Power 5 program was going to hire Bo? Same as now. None. It was a reach at the insistence of some mega boosters. He had never run a program and hated to recruit. It also was clear to Frank and he told Tom that Bo lacked the temperament to run a major program.

Since all things 'round here seem to be measured in this light, I'd answer that by saying the same number as those pining to hire Riley. IMO neither AD looked beyond the end of his own nose when it came to candidates for the job.

 

[dinglefritz]

Since all things 'round here seem to be measured in this light, I'd answer that by saying the same number as those pining to hire Riley. IMO neither AD looked beyond the end of his own nose when it came to candidates for the job.

At least Riley is qualified to be a Power 5 head coach. His organizational and communication skills are excellent. It's yet to be seen if he can take us where we want to go.

 

[bigboxes]

Since all things 'round here seem to be measured in this light, I'd answer that by saying the same number as those pining to hire Riley. IMO neither AD looked beyond the end of his own nose when it came to candidates for the job.

WRONG. If Riley had to look for a job today (and still wanted to work), I can guarantee that he would find a job in a P5 school. Easily.

 

[swissticuffs]

TO gave a whole bunch of himself to NU. Dude that s getting on in years and will give his 2 cents sparingly. That is his way.

Exactly..... he's helping a former player the way his mentors helped him. He should be spending these years with his family and fishing.

 

[Rocky Mtn Husker]

Does all of this mean we're bringing back the Osborne option offense?



"....and the quarterback Gill calls his starting count..."

Lyle Bremser

 

[DukeOfSorrow]

Exactly what other top flight Power 5 program was going to hire Bo? Same as now. None. It was a reach at the insistence of some mega boosters. He had never run a program and hated to recruit. It also was clear to Frank and he told Tom that Bo lacked the temperament to run a major program.

Look again. Those are your words, not mine. I said "close to HC offers". I literally said he wasn't qualified directly. Did you even read my post?

 

[Toms Wife]

Look again. Those are your words, not mine. I said "close to HC offers". I literally said he wasn't qualified directly. Did you even read my post?

But if you say something remotely questioning Riley then you have to love Bo. And when you get called on it, just say it was hyperbole.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Don't take the bait.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

WRONG. If Riley had to look for a job today (and still wanted to work), I can guarantee that he would find a job in a P5 school. Easily.

He said TOP FLIGHT P5 program.

 

[1949 tackle]

So when Eichorst had no national search you were equally irate?

Only time I can remember an AD choosing who he would hire for a HC 10 years before actually selected him for the position, and allowing nothing that happenned in the interim to advise his choice.

 

[Toms Wife]

Don't take the bait.

I won't. This concept of using hyperbole to place people in the Bo-lovers camp who have any criticism of Riley is unwarranted. Let's just comment on those who give honest assessments.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

As you were princess.

 

[bigboxes]

He said TOP FLIGHT P5 program.

I'd say that Riley (at Bo's age when he got fired) was indeed a candidate of TOP FLIGHT P5 programs. Or did you not get the paper that day?