FINAL:Neb 4 - HC 7

[Charlie Marlow]

and the Erstad Wars raged on...

 

[jlb321]

Is anyone here actually arguing that Nebraska should be reaching the CWS on a consistent basis? If so, I missed it.

If the Huskers had simply gone 2-2 and finished second in this regional, just about everyone would have viewed this as the most successful Nebraska baseball season in many years - maybe since the 2005 team. As it is, we're left to ponder how the team got dominated by Yale and Holy Cross and never even sniffed the opportunity to play Oregon State. Sorry if I find that kind of postseason performance unacceptable, and don't buy the idea that it's because my expectations are too high.

you are right - it was a pathetic performance ... but even reaching a regional final for any one BIG team is an uphill battle

as I have stated -- in the last 10 years only 13 times has a team reached a regional final - so of the 320 slots in the regional finals over the last 10 years the BIG has filled 13 or 4%

baseball is a nonrevenue sport that in the BIG is highly irrelevant - cut the coaching salary and give the scholarships to a bunch of local kids so they get a free education and quit worrying about who is the tallest midget to win the BIG in baseball

baseball may be the worst sport represented by the BIG .. can anyone think of another where the conference is less competitive?

 

[schuele]

and the Erstad Wars raged on...

Being a Husker baseball fan is rather complicated. You're supposed to simultaneously get down on your knees and thank your lucky stars that we have a top-flight coach that's turning down offers left and right from superior programs AND have zero expectations that the NU program will attract good talent or have any postseason success whatsoever.

We must do cartwheels in our SuperFan capes when the team wins the Big Ten title, but also acknowledge that the Big Ten is such a bad conference that getting taken to the woodshed by the Patriot league champs is no big deal.

 

[schuele]

you are right - it was a pathetic performance ... but even reaching a regional final for any one BIG team is an uphill battle

as I have stated -- in the last 10 years only 13 times has a team reached a regional final - so of the 320 slots in the regional finals over the last 10 years the BIG has filled 13 or 4%

baseball is a nonrevenue sport that in the BIG is highly irrelevant - cut the coaching salary and give the scholarships to a bunch of local kids so they get a free education and quit worrying about who is the tallest midget to win the BIG in baseball

If you would rather treat baseball as a glorified club sport, that's fine. I don't happen to agree with you, but there's certainly an argument to be made for that. What I'm talking about is the finger-wagging that takes place anytime someone suggests that NU isn't get a good return on the investment it is already making in baseball, based on nothing more than the Erstad's-a-Husker-through-and-through-with-a-WS-ring mantra.

 

[jlb321]

If you would rather treat baseball as a glorified club sport, that's fine. I don't happen to agree with you, but there's certainly an argument to be made for that. What I'm talking about is the finger-wagging that takes place anytime someone suggests that NU isn't get a good return on the investment it is already making in baseball, based on nothing more than the Erstad's-a-Husker-through-and-through-with-a-WS-ring mantra.

I can agree with that

If we are going to invest in nonrevenue sports with a goal of consistently being at the top of the conference then I would prefer it be in sports where winning the BIG entails being competitive nationally. As I have stated - winning the BIG in baseball may be the most meaningless title as far as the national landscape is concerned of any sport in the conference. It is like Bermuda investing in a hockey program.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Come on guys. Yale and Holy Cross have so many advantages compared to Nebraska. They get their pick of great talent pools, and are warm weather schools. Plus kids want to come play at those schools.

Seriously, we need to stop trying to compete with the baseball factories of Yale and Holy Cross.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

i think it's a cop out to say that because the Big Ten sucks collectively as a whole that Nebraska shouldn't be competitive nationally. Freaking Coastal Carolina won a national title last year. I doubt many on here can name what league they're in, let alone other teams in their league, without the aid of Google.

 

[saluno22]

IIt is like Bermuda investing in a hockey program.

It's like Arizona State and Alabama-Huntsville having D-1 hockey programs.

 

[jlb321]

i think it's a cop out to say that because the Big Ten sucks collectively as a whole that Nebraska shouldn't be competitive nationally. Freaking Coastal Carolina won a national title last year. I doubt many on here can name what league they're in, let alone other teams in their league, without the aid of Google.

no doubt that improbable events occasionally occur .. if you think it is a worthy endeavor to invest with a goal of winning something that no BIG team has won in over half a century that is fine

much in the same way I don't think people should mirror their financial strategy on the person who wins the lottery I don't think we should cite near miracle occurrences as reasons for us to invest resources chasing another miracle

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

ULL is competitive nationally in softball and play in the Sun Belt. Rice is competitive nationally in baseball and play in CUSA.

If you play in a weak P5 conference the path to national relevance should be easier. The investment shouldn't need to be much more, if more at all, than currently budgeted.

 

[HuskerHusaria]

I'm not sure what to say, because Husker Baseball left me speechless. Yale. Holy Cross. They are good teams but.... Why is Nebraska Baseball losing to them? I know we are historically no good, but DVH made us a power!!! We can do better!

 

[saluno22]

ULL is competitive nationally in softball and play in the Sun Belt. Rice is competitive nationally in baseball and play in CUSA.

If you play in a weak P5 conference the path to national relevance should be easier. The investment shouldn't need to be much more, if more at all, than currently budgeted.

A better comparison would be Wichita State. The key there is location. While Rice and ULL are recruiting some of the same players as the power conference schools, there are plenty of players out of high school in close proximity that make great college players AND won't be drafted high enough coming out of high school to go pro.

Plus weather makes a big difference in baseball compared to other major sports. There's only so much a player can do off the field to remain sharp in the offseason. Even most P5 football schools have indoor practice facilities.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

And Coastal Carolina was hardly a 'miracle.' They have been a very good program for a number of years. They made the NCAA tournament 13 out of the last 17 years, being a 1 seed 4 times and winning 3 regionals along the way. Last years team was screwed out of a 1 seed, but they made up for it in a big way. The bottom line is that they are a good program that has consistently made the tournament and consistently made noise in the tournament. If you can do that, you will wind up in Omaha eventually. No reason why Nebraska can't do that.

Fresno St was a miracle. They were a 4 seed that had a magical end-of-season thanks to their 'special' bats. They came out of nowhere and have not been seen since.

Also, global warming will cause migration of better baseball players Northward. We should be poised to take advantage of this.

 

[TFrazier]

And Coastal Carolina was hardly a 'miracle.' They have been a very good program for a number of years. They made the NCAA tournament 13 out of the last 17 years, being a 1 seed 4 times and winning 3 regionals along the way. Last years team was screwed out of a 1 seed, but they made up for it in a big way. The bottom line is that they are a good program that has consistently made the tournament and consistently made noise in the tournament. If you can do that, you will wind up in Omaha eventually. No reason why Nebraska can't do that.

Fresno St was a miracle. They were a 4 seed that had a magical end-of-season thanks to their 'special' bats. They came out of nowhere and have not been seen since.

Also, global warming will cause migration of better baseball players Northward. We should be poised to take advantage of this.

And it could be accelerated based on political decisions this past week!! Can Husker Baseball fans wait that long?

 

[Charlie Marlow]

Paris agreement was a sham so Trump might be stupid politically for pulling out, but it wont hurt the climate overall. Economics is the driving force and industry was always going to meet all those goals anyway. And also, the US can't really pull out until the next presidential term. So sorry, but Trump did nothing to help Nebraska baseball be great again.

 

[jlb321]

And Coastal Carolina was hardly a 'miracle.' They have been a very good program for a number of years. They made the NCAA tournament 13 out of the last 17 years, being a 1 seed 4 times and winning 3 regionals along the way. Last years team was screwed out of a 1 seed, but they made up for it in a big way. The bottom line is that they are a good program that has consistently made the tournament and consistently made noise in the tournament. If you can do that, you will wind up in Omaha eventually. No reason why Nebraska can't do that.

Fresno St was a miracle. They were a 4 seed that had a magical end-of-season thanks to their 'special' bats. They came out of nowhere and have not been seen since.

Also, global warming will cause migration of better baseball players Northward. We should be poised to take advantage of this.

Thank you for the clarification in regard to CC. Sounds like they are a legit program year in and year out in a baseball rich area. My mistake for characterizing them as a miracle. Makes Nebraska's road seem even tougher

 

[grayhairedfreak]

That's baseball.

Tuco, you must be my brother from another mother. Love your stuff, man.