I don't understand why teams don't just forfeit right away when you guys mention you used to be good 20 years ago.
Even IF we lose to Iowa...
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Nebraska is starting to inch back towards sanity. You are starting to realize Nebraska is an average program and have come to terms that you may lose to a team like Iowa on the regular.
I'm sure fans would have choked on their TV dinner if they would have seen this thread 20 years ago. So congrats.
I'm sure fans would have choked on their TV dinner if they would have seen this thread 20 years ago. So congrats.
I think we're ok with winning 9 or 10 games a year in our down years. You know, the same 9 or 10 average that Iowa can only dream of. How sad for you to know that in Iowa's best era ever, you still can't manage to average more than 7 wins a season. It must suck to know that your program is inferior in so many different ways.
9 or 10 wins in your down years? You've been in some down years for a long time then. Haven't done better than that in almost 15 years.
And yet, it's still more than Iowa manages to accomplish on any given year. But hey--your one major bowl win since the Eisenhower Administration is awful cute.
Iowa had 12 wins last season? And has been to 2 Orange Bowls and a Rose bowl. Nebraska hasn't been to any. Iowa is not a consistently great program, but neither is Nebraska.
**Edit**: Before you freakout I meant from Nebraska's last time in a major bowl game. Yes I know Nebraska used to be good in the 90's.
Oh, I see. Getting humiliated in big bowl games and then going 7-5 (or worse) the rest of the time means that Iowa has arrived and can talk smack to the blue bloods of college football.
Yeah...I think l'll take Nebraska's resume over Iowa's, past or present.
Do you honestly think Nebraska is a blue blood of college football? I take back my previous statement that you are inching toward sanity.
Well, being 2nd in all-time wins would kinda indicate that, as would 5 national championships. But we can leave our success and Iowa's blowout loss...err, Rose Bowl appearance in the past, and just stick to the present: Iowa 7-4 with a loss to North Dakota State at Kinnick, Nebraska 9-2. We're better.
Minnesota has 7 national championships, they are blue bloods too. Sorry to burst the 90s bubble but no one outside of Nebraska considers them even close to a blue blood nowadays. Wisconsin is a better program now. People in eastern Iowa never believe western Iowans when we say how much you guys are stuck in the 90s.
How many wins does Minnesota have all time? How many Heisman winners and All-Americans, compared to Nebraska? You can make the pitiful claim that Iowa's last 15 years is favorably comparable to Nebraska's (nice selective time frame, by the way), but denying that Nebraska is a college football blue blood because of your own jealousy is just dumb. Here's a hint: just because your knowledge of college football doesn't extend past the Kirk Ferentz Orange Bowl blowout loss of 2002 doesn't mean that others share your opinions.
You're not very good at this. Kinda like how Iowa football hasn't been very good at winning anything of significance since...well, ever.
We will see what that insignificant Iowa team does to your Cornhuskers on Friday won't we?
True, the thought of walking into that gladiator pit known as Kinnick does induce fear. Hopefully the Huskers will control their trembling long enough to achieve the same success that Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Northern Illinois, Iowa State, and North Dakota State have found there over the years.
Don't be so dense... It doesn't matter what husker fan says... But when Michigan fan (a blue blood program, for sure), Ohio State fan (another blue blood), Oklahoma fan (another blue blood), as well as numerous writers nationwide who do these blue blood articles have Nebraska firmly in their lists, I think I will listen to them over you percy... You should really just stop now.
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For good measure, percy, I decided to google the topic... Articles from ESPN, ABC, and the like all list Nebraska as a blue blood.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17386120/toughest-decisions-college-football-writer
http://thespun.com/independents/not...-of-college-footballs-8-blue-blood-programs/3
http://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-sta...all-programs-are-the-blue-bloods-of-the-sport
http://notredame.247sports.com/Gall...college-football-blue-blood-programs-47004130
I'm sure you really don't want to read all this yourself, but let me give you the cliffs notes... Nebraska is a blue blood program. Deal with it.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17386120/toughest-decisions-college-football-writer
http://thespun.com/independents/not...-of-college-footballs-8-blue-blood-programs/3
http://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-sta...all-programs-are-the-blue-bloods-of-the-sport
http://notredame.247sports.com/Gall...college-football-blue-blood-programs-47004130
I'm sure you really don't want to read all this yourself, but let me give you the cliffs notes... Nebraska is a blue blood program. Deal with it.
LOL I love Herkie fans. I had one tell me that Iowa would be favored because Kinnick has been a very tough place to play lately. Yes because losses to NDSU, NW and Wisky all at home this season tells me how tough they are at home. They are actually better on the road at 4-1.
Nice selective time frame? You mean like within this current decade? Plus all it really matters to is 18 year old kids deciding where to go to school, the recruits. And no one under 20 knows anything about Nebraska. I haven't even brought up your blue blood season last year. And again, not saying Iowa is a dominant program, but I am saying Nebraskas is definitely not. Northwestern doesn't even fear the mighty blackshirts. And what happened when Nebraska actually played a true blue blood like Ohio State?
I guess that would explain all of the 4/5 star visitors we have had this year.
What an idiotic argument... newsflash, Percy, Nebraska is down, but don't be kicking dirt on the grave just yet. Northwestern may not fear us, but they did lose to us. How did Iowa do against them again? Guess they fear you even less.
And you still seem to struggle coping with the fact that the nation (outside of iowa I guess) knows that Nebraska is a true blue blood as well. maybe you didn't read the articles... maybe you're only 14 and don't know how to read yet... who knows?
Ohio State was bad. No question. How bad will you feel if the team that lost by 59 rolls into kinnick and emerges with a victory? That place feels like home to us... since joining the B1G, we've never lost there. 3-0. Why will this year be any different?
Well if some lady on ESPN says you are a blue blood then I'm convinced. In fact Iowa might as well not show up, a powerhouse is coming to town.
Should we talk about this decade? By all means:
Iowa:
2010: 8-5
2011: 7-6
2012: 4-8
2013: 7-6
2014: 7-6
2015: 12-2
2016: 7-4
TOTAL: 52-37
Nebraska:
2010: 10-4
2011: 9-4
2012: 10-4
2013: 10-4
2014: 9-4
2015: 6-7
2016: 9-2
TOTAL: 63-29
Congratulations: you almost managed to come within 10 wins of Nebraska this decade. Of course, we don't have the humiliating Rose Bowl loss that you do, which I guess is supposed to mean something?
What other selective time period do you want to use to compare the programs? Present? Nebraska wins. Past? Nebraska wins.
And again, just because you and 3 goofball Iowans have an opinion about Nebraska's blue blood status doesn't make it universally true.
Again, try and listen. I'm not saying Iowa is a dominant program. That 68% win percentage and no Big BCS game appearances has me convinced. It's definitely Alabama, Ohio State, and Nebraska. If only they could get past a few of those multiple 4 loss seasons then they would get that respect.
You're the one who came on our board--like the bitter little troll you clearly are--talking about our program. No one has made the claim that Nebraska is an elite program right now, but again, to deny Nebraska's blue blood status because of your own pettiness and jealously is just plain dumb.
Maybe you should worry about your own lackluster program. It's so rich that Iowa fans think they have any standing whatsoever to talk about another program--what has Iowa ever accomplished? Next thing you know, Ball State fans are going to be coming here and pounding their chests.
OK Percy, I will try to make this easy for you. Show me where in this thread anyone said we are a top program today. You will not find it. The whole body of work suggests that we are still a blue blood program. That's not me telling you this, that's the nation… Read up on it. You look like an idiot.
He's trolling you. You're spending way too much time and effort on him. He knows what a blue blood is. You keep defending NU. He keeps bringing up the present. You remind him that they have had one year with two losses in the last couple of decades. The thing they are most famous for is a couple of their fans having drunken sex in the Metrodome bathrooms. NU has five national championships.
They are still Iowa.
I had forgotten the drunken sex thing....were they not even at the game together???
After my last post I said to myself I was done... but you're right, I should have been done two posts sooner...
Edit: one post sooner... I liked my village idiot post and would want that to stay.
Just started reading the thread. I think what needs to be established is the difference between "elite" and "blue blood" program. It's possible to be one or the other, both, or neither. For the time being, Nebraska is a blue blood. Nebraska definitely is not elite. Another decade of not being elite, and we won't be a blue blood anymore. It takes a long time to lose your blue blood status.
I feel critical questions in whether a program is a blue blood is whether that program has had a dominant period during multiple generations, and whether any of those generations who experienced the most recent elite period as, say, elementary school age or older are still alive.
I feel critical questions in whether a program is a blue blood is whether that program has had a dominant period during multiple generations, and whether any of those generations who experienced the most recent elite period as, say, elementary school age or older are still alive.
Very well thought out and an excellent post.
This thread took its normal u turn to the crapper
Most do. Do you also not like the corporately-manufactured Heroes Trophy? Maybe that's something we can get behind together
Doesn't feel like there is much on the line in this week's game in the broad picture (NU still needs help to win the division, Iowa is essentially playing for bowl pecking order), but it's obviously an important game to the players and fans. Our AD's words a couple years ago when firing Pelini after the Iowa game where he said (paraphrasing) that in evaluating the NU program, he had to evaluate the Iowa program at that time and if that's where NU wanted to be (NU had just won in OT) have done more to fuel a rivalry than anything else between Iowa and Nebraska football (outside of proximity, obviously). He could have fired Bo without firing a shot across the river. Lo and behold, we see what Iowa did last year and most Husker fans would love that kind of season. Now this season, with Iowa trending up the last few weeks and NU somewhat sputtering, I get a feeling that most NU fans would be embarrassed with a loss to Iowa this week given the records and what NU potentially has on the line.
This game is going to hinge on NU QB play (whoever ends up back there) and special teams. I would not be shocked if Iowa wins by double digits if Tommy doesn't play. If Tommy does play, I expect a competitive game and still would not be shocked if Iowa won if it turns into a field position battle.
I don't see us sputtering at all. The Minnesota game went like most people expected and we beat Maryland by 3 TDs with a QB some people called the worst backup QB in the country and many didn't think had the ability to lead us to a win against anybody. A lot of people doubted where this team's psyche was after Ohio State and thought we'd win 1 more game at most. After the last 2 games, nobody is concerned about where this team's psyche is at. How is that sputtering?
good to hear .. the loser of this game gets a third place BIG- West division participation ribbon for the trophy case
I guess I used the term "sputtering" when I should have said "injury-plagued". I really question Tommy's effectiveness if not 100%. I hope we don't see a bunch of back-foot throws as a result.
Also, I'm happy with the Maryland win, but that was not a good defense we went against. As someone else pointed out in the Fyfe injury thread, he is a bit slower getting the ball to receivers when we run those screen passes. I'll add to it that most of those passes were also not exactly on target. Against a better defense, those will turn into negative or minimal gain plays.
I will say, I forgot Jerald Foster came back from his knee injury. Couldn't have happened at a better time.
They will probably get rings at Iowa for that huge accomplishment. plus that would all but guarantee Kirk another raise.
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