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Mickey must be recruiting behind the scenes. I’m kind of surprised they haven’t terminated Mickey’s contract yet. It kind of makes me wonder if they’re considering figuring out a way to keep him. I’m not sure how but the longer it goes without finalizing his status the more possible it seems to me.
I suspect given Trev's affinity for Mickey and Trev's willingness to spend the University money, Trev wants to make sure Mickey gets paid through the end of his contract. Doesn't mean Mickey will be employed in a working relationship by the University, just paid.
 
IF he's back (not sure he would be taken back by the staff) it means he couldn't get a better NIL deal someplace else. I suspect though that the new staff does not want him back which is the risk if you go to the portal. I'd guess he probably had to delete the tweet when he learned he was NOT welcomed to come back.
Be careful
 
Anyone who played under this shit but then wants to leave after we get a real coach… can just keep walking. Don’t want you.
These guys haven’t done shit and I hope they are dropped. We don’t have to honor schollys once they hit the portal
 
Anyone who played under this shit but then wants to leave after we get a real coach… can just keep walking. Don’t want you.
These guys haven’t done shit and I hope they are dropped. We don’t have to honor schollys once they hit the portal
Maybe we should take OL Conn back if he strikes out in the portal.

He's been in Lincoln for THREE years and has never appeared in a game.
 
Mickey must be recruiting behind the scenes. I’m kind of surprised they haven’t terminated Mickey’s contract yet. It kind of makes me wonder if they’re considering figuring out a way to keep him. I’m not sure how but the longer it goes without finalizing his status the more possible it seems to me.
My guess ( and guess is the active word ) is that they can't terminate his contract till he's actually convicted of something.
 
once the player enters the portal, the existing contract between the player and school is voided.
I suppose if the player doesn't find a new home
the coach would have to determine if the player is worth the risk or not.
the numbers suggest around 60% are not
 
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once the player enters the portal, the existing contract between the player and school is voided.
I suppose if the player doesn't find a new home
the coach would have to determine if the player is worth the risk or not.
the numbers suggest around 60% are not
It's not voided automatically. It's up to the school to determine whether to keep the player on scholarship.
 
It's not voided automatically. It's up to the school to determine whether to keep the player on scholarship.
seems like it would be since the player broke the contract..
alot of these players wanted the big bucks, so it's more buisness now and we have to operate like the bama's..
not run a charity program.
 
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seems like it would be since the player broke the contract..
alot of these players wanted the big bucks, so it's more buisness now and we have to operate like the bama's..
not run a charity program.
The NIL contracts are with the companies, not the schools. This isn't pay for play.
 
The NIL contracts are with the companies, not the schools. This isn't pay for play.
the player leaves the school when he enters the portal...then the contract for scholarship becomes void
thats the purpose for contracts, where 2 parties agree on terms, and it works till one party breaks the contract.
thats why they have signing day and such...


correct it's not pay for play, that would be structured differently

seems the main part to the decoldest puzzel is, who is out wr coach? can decoldest make a real commitment to NU and get along with the new wr coach? these are key factors.
 
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No way Mickey is terminated without some proven evidence/outcome through the court system. Can you imagine if they terminated him early and then he was acquited? Or the other way around? It's called "administrative leave", common in educational settings. Like most, he probably has the "termination for cause" clause in his contract. Since nothing has been proven, technically there is no justification for termination until well documented.

I know the court of public opinion has been held and he is guilty but that isn't how it should work.

Trev will eventually have a decision to make on whether he can or will evoke the "just cause" portion.

The attorneys will look at the evidence and the contract they actually wrote most likely and make a recommendation. Trev will then need to decide if Mickey's service outweighs any evidence.

If I am not mistaken, he was awarded a three year contract. So, when the legal dust clears, he could be paid what remains and wished good luck. At worst case he continues on this paid leave for several more months which takes the pressure off everyone.

Of course Mickey is in contact with players. He technically is still an employee of the school. I have no idea if he has been told to not be on campus or to not have contact, these are normal requirements. Given these young guys and their connection to Mickey and all the social media, there is communication most likely at some level. I wouldn't expect anything different. It's called a relationship.
 
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the player leaves the school when he enters the portal...then the contract for scholarship becomes void
thats the purpose for contracts, where 2 parties agree on terms, and it works till one party breaks the contract.
thats why they have signing day and such...


correct it's not pay for play, that would be structured differently

seems the main part to the decoldest puzzel is, who is out wr coach? can decoldest make a real commitment to NU and get along with the new wr coach? these are key factors.
Potentially, but the NIL agreements are separate from the scholarship agreement.

Crawford was getting a pretty decent NIL payment from the heating and air place. Perhaps we are talking about 2 different things.
 
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Didn’t Eric Crouch leave us briefly?

No way Mickey is terminated without some proven evidence/outcome through the court system. Can you imagine if they terminated him early and then he was acquited? Or the other way around? It's called "administrative leave", common in educational settings. Like most, he probably has the "termination for cause" clause in his contract. Since nothing has been proven, technically there is no justification for termination until well documented.

I know the court of public opinion has been held and he is guilty but that isn't how it should work.

Trev will eventually have a decision to make on whether he can or will evoke the "just cause" portion.

The attorneys will look at the evidence and the contract they actually wrote most likely and make a recommendation. Trev will then need to decide if Mickey's service outweighs any evidence.

If I am not mistaken, he was awarded a three year contract. So, when the legal dust clears, he could be paid what remains and wished good luck. At worst case he continues on this paid leave for several more months which takes the pressure off everyone.

Of course Mickey is in contact with players. He technically is still an employee of the school. I have no idea if he has been told to not be on campus or to not have contact, these are normal requirements. Given these young guys and their connection to Mickey and all the social media, there is communication most likely at some level. I wouldn't expect anything different. It's called a relationship.
true, I suppose the main hangup for everyone is, was mickey or his wife commiting the adultery?
once we know that, then things can move forwards...


was mickey a wife beating/cheatin pookie?
or
was he a victim of ratchet cheatin 304?

the jury is still out
 
So I am confused, are some of you saying that the reason there is no WR coach is because Joseph's case has yet to be ajudicated? Or just that he hasn't been officially let go because the case hasn't been ajudicated? I don't think his contract is in any way hindering the hiring of a new WR coach though. Sorry if I am misunderstanding the conversation.
 
Didn’t Eric Crouch leave us briefly?
Sort of yes and no? Driving to Omaha is not that far and he mostly came up to vent to his mom, and Fred Petito who both told him to stick with it as far as we know. Fortunately Bobby Newcombe was smarter than Frank Solich, and moved himself to WR/PR after Crouch completely outperformed him against Iowa and Cal. Nebraska may have lost to Kansas that year if not for that move Sick oh memories :|
 
So I am confused, are some of you saying that the reason there is no WR coach is because Joseph's case has yet to be ajudicated? Or just that he hasn't been officially let go because the case hasn't been ajudicated? I don't think his contract is in any way hindering the hiring of a new WR coach though. Sorry if I am misunderstanding the conversation.
I think the thought is that maybe they're waiting it out so he can be retained?
 
Hopefully nobody is waiting on this to make its way through the courts before hiring a WR coach. Could be the 2024 season before this thing is done.
 
Potentially, but the NIL agreements are separate from the scholarship agreement.

Crawford was getting a pretty decent NIL payment from the heating and air place. Perhaps we are talking about 2 different things.
He got like $8k for that commercial not that much money
 
IF he's back (not sure he would be taken back by the staff) it means he couldn't get a better NIL deal someplace else. I suspect though that the new staff does not want him back which is the risk if you go to the portal. I'd guess he probably had to delete the tweet when he learned he was NOT welcomed to come back.
I wouldn’t doubt it. Good recruit last year and I’m all for second chances. But didn’t practice all that well (apparently) and then he will probably miss spring ball w a major injury. Totally makes sense to wave goodbye to him. How much dead weight did we keep on scholarship under Frost? Only to lose them later?
 
He blew his knee out. Wasn't he in the mix for PT before that? I'm assuming he's pretty fast.
Mickey called out some of his WRs for not meeting his standards this spring and/or fall. Supposedly Crawford was one that he talking about. Now he was just a freshman so he could always mature, but then he got hurt.
 
I hope decoldest comes back, makes plays, gets paid, then heads to the nfl like palmer..that would make the most sense for everyone
 
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My guess ( and guess is the active word ) is that they can't terminate his contract till he's actually convicted of something.
I don’t believe that’s the case at all. My guess is they’re going to do everything they can to help Mickey and his family navigate this mess. Keeping him on the payroll for a while is a drop in the bucket. It’s the right thing to do.
 
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I don’t believe that’s the case at all. My guess is they’re going to do everything they can to help Mickey and his family navigate this mess. Keeping him on the payroll for a while is a drop in the bucket. It’s the right thing to do.
I thought that they would keep Busch on in some capacity for all the good things he did after Frost was fired, but that didn't happen.
 
Curious as well as to how the Mickey situation plays out. It’s odd at this stage in the game that Rhule hasn’t officially filled the other vacancies, specifically WR.

We won’t forget what Mickey did, but the media certainly will.
 
I don’t believe that’s the case at all. My guess is they’re going to do everything they can to help Mickey and his family navigate this mess. Keeping him on the payroll for a while is a drop in the bucket. It’s the right thing to do.
I think they will honor the 3 year contract that was guaranteed, but they can fire him at any time if Rhule wants to go in a different direction with regards to a WR coach.
 
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I think the thought is that maybe they're waiting it out so he can be retained?
I won't discount this completely, but my thought is that UNL is covering their legal bases by allowing for the case to be fully adjudicated before firing him with cause, not necessarily because Mickey could win the case against him.
 
Curious as well as to how the Mickey situation plays out. It’s odd at this stage in the game that Rhule hasn’t officially filled the other vacancies, specifically WR.

We won’t forget what Mickey did, but the media certainly will.
Around the country, he would be our new Lawrence.
 
Mickey should negotiate a contract buyout for 50% or something like that. If he is convicted and terminated for cause in a few months we will only get those months of pay. Doing the buyout would allow both parties to move on. Someone will hire him as an analyst or something that he can still make a decent living at.
 
true, I suppose the main hangup for everyone is, was mickey or his wife commiting the adultery?
once we know that, then things can move forwards...


was mickey a wife beating/cheatin pookie?
or
was he a victim of ratchet cheatin 304?

the jury is still out
I don't think that is the issue at all. Who may or may not have cheated is irrelevant. What Mickey did is. Who and what all transpired during that altercation is all that is likely to be relevant.
 
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I think they will honor the 3 year contract that was guaranteed, but they can fire him at any time if Rhule wants to go in a different direction with regards to a WR coach.
Sure, anyone, even Rhule can be fired at any time. There are two different kinds of firings - that is the issue. Mickey was/is owed for three years with only one out option to not pay. Coaching was an option but the pay was not but now has come into question. If I had to hazard a guess, Nebraska will pay him.
 
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