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CWS Attendance

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So, I didn't go to any CWS games this year, and I hate to say it but I haven't been since it was at Rosenblatt, but what was attendance like this year? I will admit that my interest in the CWS has dwindled over the years, and I realize there wasn't some of the traditional CWS "Blue Bloods" there like LSU and some of the main Texas schools. Did beer sales at the game help at all?

Coastal looks like kind of a neat story, but wow it seems like this thing goes on forever now. It didn't use to be this long did it?

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Since it's the longest running CWS ever, meaning they needed every game of every series (I think I'm right on that, somebody will be along to correct me if I'm wrong), the overall attendance should be great. I'd be more curious about the average attendance per game, I think that would be a more telling factor. I'm betting it was really good, we never tire of the CWS around here. I think some people feel like they owe it to Omaha to show up, in exchange for the way Omaha stepped up to the plate with the CWS.

Having said all that, I loved the Blatt, and don't feel the same about TD, never will, but what do I know? I'm so old fashioned I think a guy outta use the guys restroom, which is clearly a sign I'm a grumpy old white guy who's time has passed :)
 
Only thing I could find is this paragraph from a week old article..."Total attendance has increased every year since the move from Rosenblatt Stadium, though average game attendance has fluctuated. An average of nearly 24,400 attended per game in 2013. That’s the highest at TD Ameritrade, while this year is on pace for the lowest per game average at fewer than 21,000 per game."
 
I worked there for probably about 75% of the games. I think even with every possible game happening, not sure if the attendance figures will be great, and I'd expect a noon game today to be poorly attended. That's just too short of notice. The heat obviously played a big part in low attendance the first weekend. Also, the somewhat erratic game time schedules dictated by ESPN had some effect IMHO. I had a few games that I just couldn't give my tickets away.

I realize ESPN has put a lot into this event over the past few decades, so they have earned the right to dictate a lot on this event.....but I really hope they would just make it easy for people and if they are going to keep the same schedule (as far as game days), then make it 2 and 7 pm on days with two games, and 7 pm for night games. They have enough networks, I'd think they could get that done.
 
Congrats to the Chanticleers! Thanks to the stupid decision to play the game at Noon, I only saw the final inning. I'm sure ESPNU will have on something much better in prime time this evening.

But anyway, I'm glad Coastal hung on to win. Looked like a decent crowd - not full by any means, but pretty good for a makeup game on a weekday.
 
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Congrats to the Chanticleers! Thanks to the stupid decision to play the game at Noon, I only saw the final inning. I'm sure ESPNU will have on something much better in prime time this evening.

But anyway, I'm glad Coastal hung on to win. Looked like a decent crowd - not full by any means, but pretty good for a makeup game on a weekday.

The decision to play at noon was the NCAA's. They were afraid of more bad weather tonight.

ESPN wanted to air the game in prime time on ESPN.
 
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The NCAA didn't help themselves either by taking the offense out of the game. Although on the surface this year was a tad better, 1-0 games aren't all that fun to be at when sitting in 95 degree heat. Gotta move the fences in...that park plays too big.

Would have helped to if those who thought the view of the century link center was more important than the proper directional line up of a baseball field. Especially when moving from the top of a hill into the bowl of downtown Omaha. Many tried to tell them, but no one listened.

I agree they have to do something about the dimensions. Just waaaaaay to hard to hit a HR from alleys to CF.
 
Would have helped to if those who thought the view of the century link center was more important than the proper directional line up of a baseball field. Especially when moving from the top of a hill into the bowl of downtown Omaha. Many tried to tell them, but no one listened.

I agree they have to do something about the dimensions. Just waaaaaay to hard to hit a HR from alleys to CF.

You hit the nail right on the head.Winking
 
The decision to play at noon was the NCAA's. They were afraid of more bad weather tonight.

ESPN wanted to air the game in prime time on ESPN.
Thanks for the correction. Still hate not being able to watch it, but now at least I know the reason behind the odd time.
 
Thanks for the correction. Still hate not being able to watch it, but now at least I know the reason behind the odd time.

Yeah, the story was on omaha.com.

I agree with the earlier post that the field isn't aligned correctly. During the design phase of construction, I expected a baseball aficionado to file a lawsuit.
 
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I heard that they are going to move home plate out 10 ft. I don't like that at all. I like it the way it is now, but I feel I'm maybe in the minority. I just don't want it going back to home run derby. Those games used to be ridiculous.
 
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I heard that they are going to move home plate out 10 ft. I don't like that at all. I like it the way it is now, but I feel I'm maybe in the minority. I just don't want it going back to home run derby. Those games used to be ridiculous.

1998 USC beating ASU 21-14.....that was ridiculous. I was at that one and just shook my head. But a lot of that was the bats.

I once heard Kyle Peterson talking on the radio about how during the CWS years ago (and he might have been talking about that 21-14 game), a pitcher threw a change up, fooled the batter, and the batter was way out in front. The batter made contact, and under normal circumstances that hit should have been an easy pop fly for an outfielder. But with the old bats, the ball just , carried, and carried out into the bleachers for a HR. When the pitcher does everything right, fools the batter, and still gives up a home run, that is a problem, and no one should want to see that again.

The bbcor bats being used in college today, are IIRC extremely similar to the performance of wood bats. They probably still have a larger sweet spot than wood, but they have nowhere near the trampoline effect the bats used to have.

I think my math is correct below, but I've been burning the candle at both ends for too many days in a row.

Until next year, this is the data of hits for the CWS at TD Ameritrade. 1402 hits......50 home runs. 3.6% (rounded up) or 1 of every 28 hits at that ball park have been home runs. How many CWS games does it take to get to 28 hits? This year (if I counted right), 10 home runs, in 17 games. So .588 home runs per game.

http://dataomaha.com/cws/hits/

Compare that to MLB parks. The below link keeps track. As of when I am typing this, the lowest HR per game this year is 1.38 at AT&T Park. (SF) The highest is 3.14 at The Great American Ball Park (Reds). So the lowest allowing MLB park had roughly 2.5 times the amount of homers per game vs TD Ameritrade Park.

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/stadiums.php

Now compare the 3.6% or .03566333 etc and compare that to all MLB teams in 2015.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/team-home-run-percentage-hits/2015/

The Braves were the lowest HR hitting team last year with 7.4% of their hits being home runs. So TD Ameritrade Park allows home runs at half the rate that the lowest producing MLB team produced last year? Yes I realize I am comparing MLB batters to college, but the college batters are not facing MLB pitching either.

I don't want to see pitchers get punished, but batters shouldn't either. When batters guess right and smack the hell out of the ball, only to have it fall short at the warning track (repeatedly) due to hitting into prevailing winds blowing in, and having dead center be 408, and 475 in left and right center, a change needs to be made. Had the ball park been laid out like just about every other outdoor ball park is, maybe it wouldn't be an issue. Also, for the first time in my life, I know numerous people (including myself) who flat out could not GIVE CWS tickets away. When that happens, you really have to do something, because it is known around Omaha that there won't be much offense at the CWS. There needs to be the possibility of more excitement. JMHO.
 
I agree with new AD. I really like pitcher-friendly parks, and I enjoy a well-played 2-1 or 3-2 game far more than a homerfest. But I think the park is just too punitive for hitters. You shouldn't be able to leave a fat pitch in the middle of the plate to a cleanup hitter, and watch it turn into a routine fly ball that doesn't even make it to the track.
 
I agree with new AD. I really like pitcher-friendly parks, and I enjoy a well-played 2-1 or 3-2 game far more than a homerfest. But I think the park is just too punitive for hitters. You shouldn't be able to leave a fat pitch in the middle of the plate to a cleanup hitter, and watch it turn into a routine fly ball that doesn't even make it to the track.
Yep. I'm sick of seeing power hitting high draft picks really tag one, start their home run trot, only to see it caught 290 feet away from home plate.
 
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