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Cutting the roster to 105

Here is a quick toss out of some guys I question will ever do anything in the future, we can start with them:
Alvano
Bretz
Rollins
Ervin
Teddy P
Hood
Tagaloa
Stenger
Rogers
Turner
Doss
Ives

Plus, guys I felt might be reaches:
Taylor
Guthrie
Peters


So, we could easily have plenty of room
I wonder if Ives might not benefit from a fresh set of eyes on him.
 
Perhaps, but with a 105 cap and Parker and Booth coming in, I’ll say the chances are close to nil.
RBs don’t generally take 3 years to develop. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Ervin leave in the portal either.
Gotta start thinking about poaching a good transfer, i.e. one that has actually put up good numbers somewhere and has film of making guys miss and housing a few td's. Having a room full of guys that haven't done shit in 2 years ain't cutting it.
 
This is going to cost hundreds of kids the chance to have college paid for by NIL support. There's going to be a lot of high schoolers who would have had a shot at a scholarship at the D2 level to end up at lower levels as those D1 kids flood FCS and D2 programs.
So if a kid wants to pay his own way to play football and the roster is at 105 he can’t? I see a lawsuit in the near future, it appears that the NCAA is becoming a farm system for the nfl without the financial support
 
I'm guessing coaches are going to push even harder for hs seniors to come in January if they're going to be counted in the 105 cap. Will redshirt count towards the cap? Gonna be hard to know the traditional incoming freshman's worth if only here for a couple weeks.

What's the magic number you try to start fall camp with to be able to trim to 105?
 
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Probably for the P5 . Now the
G5 like Ohio and N. Illinois type the will have walkons because they can’t afford 105 scholarships.
Also, schools can give scholarships to all 105 players going forward. Those grants can be partial (think baseball) or a rich school can now give all 105 kids a full ride if they choose to do so. The rich get richer
 
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So if a kid wants to pay his own way to play football and the roster is at 105 he can’t? I see a lawsuit in the near future, it appears that the NCAA is becoming a farm system for the nfl without the financial support
I was telling a buddy the other day I wish we could purge all the covid players completely before starting the 105. There's going to be a ton of good talent winding up at d2 and naia because there won't be room for them. And a bunch of high school kids that are playing their last game this month because there won't be room at Doane hastings or Concordia.

I'd commit a couple low staffer to simply scour these and community colleges more than we currently do. I think there's going to be 2-6 a year worth taking a chance on rather than D1 recyclers
 
Gotta start thinking about poaching a good transfer, i.e. one that has actually put up good numbers somewhere and has film of making guys miss and housing a few td's. Having a room full of guys that haven't done shit in 2 years ain't cutting it.
 
Also, schools can give scholarships to all 105 players going forward. Those grants can be partial (think baseball) or a rich school can now give all 105 kids a full ride if they choose to do so. The rich get richer
But if there is money set aside for full or partial scholly, what is full scholarship valued at? Do the state schools get to award in state tuition amounts for in state players on the roster?
If so, the private schools are at a disadvantage. Also, the state schools with the most in state talent would have a big advantage, like state schools in California, Texas, Georgia, Ohio, Florida, etc
Hope all these details are worked out fairly, which I am sure they won’t be
 
I’m really concerned about all the kids of former players. What are they going to do?
We have some freshmen kids of former players on the roster now and they’re likely going to be starters for us within 2 years. One will be our punter. One probably a safety. One a WR. Don’t piss on legacy recruits. Oh yeah, there’s a linemen too who is going to play.
 
It would make more sense to say it has to be 105 in 4 years and any current walk ons are allowed to finish 4 years since they committed to these schools over other opportunities not knowing this was gping to happen.

This screws tons of athletes. What a crock of shit.
I am normally pretty empathetic but there are 858 colleges that provide college football. And the culture is not to go to a school for the schooling but the football. I always feel worse for kids who can't get into specific academic programs in their desired field. From a healthy human being perspective, it would be much better for almost every husker to go to a smaller school, play to win, and get a better education and move on with life. Of the last 1000 former husker football players, how many of them made a single dollar playing pro football? Power 4, college football rosters needs to be cut WAY down and the quality of play will be improved, as will prep for the NFL. Always can poach all-stars from lower divisions like farm teams if you need depth. Bringing in an undeveloped 17 year old who has been committed since they were 15 in an automatic transfer era with massive rosters is really dumb.
 
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I am normally pretty empathetic but there are 858 colleges that provide college football. And the culture is not to go to a school for the schooling but the football. I always feel worse for kids who can't get into specific academic programs in their desired field. From a healthy human being perspective, it would be much better for almost every husker to go to a smaller school, play to win, and get a better education and move on with life. Of the last 1000 former husker football players, how many of them made a single dollar playing pro football? Power 4, college football rosters needs to be cut WAY down and the quality of play will be improved, as will prep for the NFL. Always can poach all-stars from lower divisions like farm teams if you need depth. Bringing in an undeveloped 17 year old who has been committed since they were 15 in an automatic transfer era with massive rosters is really dumb.
Lots of kids who might not otherwise go to college are going to get axed
 
This might be an ok thing for some of these walkon's that gave up a scholly somewhere else to simply be a Husker or Sooner or whatever. Go get your school paid for and have a chance to really contribute at a level that is suitable for you. The whole clinging to what use to be is silly.

We had a RB a few years back that walked on. Worked out for him from a job/connection standpoint but he could have been a really good D2 player. Lots of kids miss opportunities chasing a dream that only works out for a small % of kids.
No, it isnt ok for the numerous walk on players who chose to come here over other opportunities and are now going to be forced out not because of performance or dedication but because of a new rule they had NO idea was even a possibility when they signed on, some of them last spring after commiting last fall.

Whether you agree with 105 in the future is one thing, but to ditch these kids is wrong. This is morally wrong.
 
No, it isnt ok for the numerous walk on players who chose to come here over other opportunities and are now going to be forced out not because of performance or dedication but because of a new rule they had NO idea was even a possibility when they signed on, some of them last spring after commiting last fall.

Whether you agree with 105 in the future is one thing, but to ditch these kids is wrong. This is morally wrong.
Most of our walkons are going to find homes if they want at FCS or D2 programs. It sucks but if they want to keep playing they can. The kids that are going to lose out are the D2 kids. IF I’m a D2 program I’m not signing many if any high schoolers this winter.
 
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I am normally pretty empathetic but there are 858 colleges that provide college football. And the culture is not to go to a school for the schooling but the football. I always feel worse for kids who can't get into specific academic programs in their desired field. From a healthy human being perspective, it would be much better for almost every husker to go to a smaller school, play to win, and get a better education and move on with life. Of the last 1000 former husker football players, how many of them made a single dollar playing pro football? Power 4, college football rosters needs to be cut WAY down and the quality of play will be improved, as will prep for the NFL. Always can poach all-stars from lower divisions like farm teams if you need depth. Bringing in an undeveloped 17 year old who has been committed since they were 15 in an automatic transfer era with massive rosters is really dumb.
What does this have to do with the nfl?

You do realize some play college football to….play college football.

Also, many opportunities these kids had to go elsewhere are gone because they signed on here, you cant just go anywhere you want now. Plus this will trickle down.

We can argue what the apprpriate roster size should be, and there are certainly good points to be had about lower than we currently have or keep itmhigh, etc

But thats not the problem right now. Its a ton of kids who are going to be screwed.
 
LOL. Pretty sure you don’t pay much attention.
So in your world, disagreeing with how we handle NIL and roster management is “toeing the company line”. OK.
You broke news on that exact thing in the past, so I assumed you were supportive of giving NIL to walk-ons. My bad if that isn't the case. I was one of the only ones on this board actually critiquing our use of NIL funds placing too much emphasis on walk-on players, specifically that the amounts given to individual players was too high. And at the time, I was ridiculed for that position. I don't recall you making similar critiques at the time. In fact, you liked a post with the opposite opinion. If you can provide evidence of your disagreement with our handling of NIL and roster management, then I'd love to see it.
 
Most of our walkons are going to find homes if they want at FCS or D2 programs. It sucks but if they want to keep playing they can. The kids that are going to lose out are the D2 kids. IF I’m a D2 program I’m not signing many if any high schoolers this winter.
Fcs will be harder than you think.
 
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Right, most of the walk ons that aren’t on the scholly chart.

So, in digging further, 97 are on the list but Coleman and Syncere are gone… so 95. Then, take out seniors and it’s now 78. We have 20 commits and potentially another few so let’s call it 24 just in case. 78 and 24 make 102, three guys (net) from the portal make it 105.

Ok, we do have room. Still, some of these guys need to move on so we can take more portal guys. I would love to see 2 OL. 2 WR, 1 LB, 2 CB from the portal
and at least 2 qb's. quick blinkers preferably
 
No, it isnt ok for the numerous walk on players who chose to come here over other opportunities and are now going to be forced out not because of performance or dedication but because of a new rule they had NO idea was even a possibility when they signed on, some of them last spring after commiting last fall.

Whether you agree with 105 in the future is one thing, but to ditch these kids is wrong. This is morally wrong.
Dude. I get what your saying, But its pretty clear that "Morally wrong" doesn't matter in the US anymore.
 
Also, schools can give scholarships to all 105 players going forward. Those grants can be partial (think baseball) or a rich school can now give all 105 kids a full ride if they choose to do so. The rich get richer
The rich are already compensating their whole roster as if they were on scholarship. What this maybe does is level the playing field a little bit on scholarship players for less NIL fortunate programs IMO.
 
Fcs will be harder than you think.
I'm not doubting that. Competition for scholarships in the FCS will be tougher than ever. Some of our walk ons were guys who maybe only had one FCS offer or just D2 offers. I believe though that programs like Indiana State and Northern Iowa are going to take a fair number of guys who already have a year or more of development in a P5 program's weight room. We already see lots of starters at lower tier conferences like the MAC who were at P5 programs. Our walk ons will find a spot IF they REALLY want to play or if they're like I was, they'll opt to stay at NU and get their degree. I suspect a walk on kicked off NIL will be able to find plenty of financial support to stay at NU if they've taken care of their academics. There's an amazing amount of academic scholarship money available in the system.
 
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Dude. I get what your saying, But its pretty clear that "Morally wrong" doesn't matter in the US anymore.
I believe that all of our walk ons have received the cost of attendance for the past year. That's nothing to sneeze at regardless of what the final rules are on this roster reduction. It sounds like there's some things that still have to be worked out and I suspect lots of schools are going to express concern about this. 105 guys is still a large number of guys but what is going to be more important than ever is finding mature P5 ready transfers to fill roster holes. Then how many QBs and centers for instance do you carry on your roster. We've seen teams go through 5 QBs due to injuries this year. There's not going to be as much room at programs like NU for projects. In some ways, it's going to make things easier for our staff and we might not need as many assistants as we have right now. Other than the feel good stories of the local kids walking on, this shouldn't really affect NU all that much in the long run. That new locker room is going to seem awfully empty next year.
 
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College football is dead
LOL, no.

Record attendance
Record viewership
Record revenues

College football is very much alive. More people are attending, watching, and paying for the product than ever before.

The addition of a playoff format will make this season -by far- the largest and most successful season in college football history.
 
I believe that all of our walk ons have received the cost of attendance for the past year. That's nothing to sneeze at regardless of what the final rules are on this roster reduction. It sounds like there's some things that still have to be worked out and I suspect lots of schools are going to express concern about this. 105 guys is still a large number of guys but what is going to be more important than ever is finding mature P5 ready transfers to fill roster holes. Then how many QBs and centers for instance do you carry on your roster. We've seen teams go through 5 QBs due to injuries this year. There's not going to be as much room at programs like NU for projects. In some ways, it's going to make things easier for our staff and we might not need as many assistants as we have right now. Other than the feel good stories of the local kids walking on, this shouldn't really affect NU all that much in the long run. That new locker room is going to seem awfully empty next year.
Do you think this leads to much more transfers and portal additions from the lower levels (along with the regular ones). I could see a situation where a lot of D1 players get developed/busts get washed out at the G5 levels. Then they will get picked up from those levels.
 
LOL, no.

Record attendance
Record viewership
Record revenues

College football is very much alive. More people are attending, watching, and paying for the product than ever before.

The addition of a playoff format will make this season -by far- the largest and most successful season in college football history.
This is professional football. Two select Powers To Be are dictating roster size, salaries, and total free agency. The inmates are running the asylum. The 5 smaller conferences are a feeder system to the 4 preselected conferences. If you can't cut it at the 4 selected conferences, move down a level, play a couple of seasons, and move back up... THIS is not college football. Give it about 5-6 years and the newness will wear off and the numbers will tumble, the money will slow down, and the only relevance of what used to be a season will be 5 weeks in November and December.
 
Last year there were 1682 Div 1 football players that entered the transfer portal. I would suspect that will be close to 50% higher. 121 of those players either went to a lower division program or stopped playing football. I would guess that number will be 400% higher or more.
 
Do you think this leads to much more transfers and portal additions from the lower levels (along with the regular ones). I could see a situation where a lot of D1 players get developed/busts get washed out at the G5 levels. Then they will get picked up from those levels.
Guys who have a spot better think twice before they enter the portal. No doubt there will be guys doing “research” before they enter. I don’t know if there can be any more portal entries than we’ve had. Not everybody sports our roster size. With 105 scholarship spots the new norm it might not really make much difference elsewhere.
 
Last year there were 1682 Div 1 football players that entered the transfer portal. I would suspect that will be close to 50% higher. 121 of those players either went to a lower division program or stopped playing football. I would guess that number will be 400% higher or more.
Where did you get these numbers? Just curious.
 
The rich are already compensating their whole roster as if they were on scholarship. What this maybe does is level the playing field a little bit on scholarship players for less NIL fortunate programs IMO.
If they can afford it, which they likely won't be able to
 
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