Cowherd & Klatt nail it on NU yet AGAIN

[x35goahs]

For everyone that thought we should have fired Frost, take a listen to what Joel Klatt and Colin Cowherd have to say about it. It’s easy for me to be biased on this because I was in favor of bringing Frost back. However I think Cowherd nails it, we were not a 3 year re-build…we’re a 6 year re-build…we just fu^%!#g are!

 

[Can o' corn]

Why would anyone care what Cowherd thinks?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Why would anyone care what Cowherd thinks?

Well somebody must. He climbed to the top of the ladder pretty fast.

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

Why six years? Why not five or seven? Or twenty or fifty?

 

[barney44]

Maybe we should hire them to coach since they know what it takea..

 

[B1G RED RULES]

I agree. When your football program is one of the bottom feeders of a conference and you hiring a head coach on an internship program, it’s not going to turn around overnight.

 

[vs540husker]

Cowherd is one step above Finebaum.

 

[1ManBearPig]

Cowherd is one step above Finebaum.

Finebaum show is kinda funny to listen to. The people that call in are gold.

 

[Redblood23]

It's just their opinions like everyone else's.. Doesn't matter...

 

[redwine65]

I would say a 3 year build if your going to run the ball
but at least 6 years if your trying to build air Nebraska

 

[TheHuskerFreak]

Why six years? Why not five or seven? Or twenty or fifty?

And 6 years to do what? Make a bowl? Win 9 games? Compete for a conference title? Win the national title? Frost in year 4 is probably going to win 1 game in the big 10 and finish last place, maybe 2 if he can beat Iowa. Was a 3-9 last place season in year 4 part of the 6 year plan?

 

[barney44]

I would say a 3 year build if your going to run the ball
but at least 6 years if your trying to build air Nebraska

I don't know about you but I'd rather we stayed more balanced. We're not going to survive having to force the run behind our line..

 

[pgainey]

if you are replacing nearly the entire offensive staff - and will be on your 3rd OC in 4 years - the side of the ball the head coach is primarily in charge of - then after 4 years it isn’t a rebuild it is a reset to try again.

we have a 4th year starting QB and currently have one conference win

there hasn’t been any building to date

 

[Harry Caray]

For everyone that thought we should have fired Frost, take a listen to what Joel Klatt and Colin Cowherd have to say about it. It’s easy for me to be biased on this because I was in favor of bringing Frost back. However I think Cowherd nails it, we were not a 3 year re-build…we’re a 6 year re-build…we just fu^%!#g are!

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Campbell turned Iowa State around in 2 years

Kiffin turned Ole Miss around in 2 years

Pittman turned Arkansas around in 2 years

Tucker turned Michigan State around in 2 years

Rhule turned Baylor around in 2 years after a major scandal

Fitzgerald turned Northwestern around in 3 years

But Nebraska takes 6 years to re-build? Nonsense. Especially in the era of the transfer portal.

 

[huskerfan66]

Campbell turned Iowa State around in 2 years

Kiffin turned Ole Miss around in 2 years

Pittman turned Arkansas around in 2 years

Tucker turned Michigan State around in 2 years

Rhule turned Baylor around in 2 years after a major scandal

Fitzgerald turned Northwestern around in 3 years

But Nebraska takes 6 years to re-build? Nonsense. Especially in the era of the transfer portal.

I agree. I just hope Frost learned assistant coaches DO matter. I think he got tuioti right. Maybe he'll get this right too....hopefully

 

[pgainey]

I agree. I just hope Frost learned assistant coaches DO matter. I think he got tuioti right. Maybe he'll get this right too....hopefully

Chinander handles the defensive assistants and frost is in charge of the offense

it’s why chins makes 800k and the OC 500k

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Campbell turned Iowa State around in 2 years

Kiffin turned Ole Miss around in 2 years

Pittman turned Arkansas around in 2 years

Tucker turned Michigan State around in 2 years

Rhule turned Baylor around in 2 years after a major scandal

Fitzgerald turned Northwestern around in 3 years

But Nebraska takes 6 years to re-build? Nonsense. Especially in the era of the transfer portal.

Do you seriously think Nebraska is in the same league as Iowa State, Arkansas, Michigan State, Baylor, or Northwestern??? That is what the Frost sunshine pumpers claimed starting in year 2 - that we were much worse than these programs. Apparently, you need to find lower tier programs than these to compare Nebraska to 🙄

 

[pharvey0829]

And 6 years to do what? Make a bowl? Win 9 games? Compete for a conference title? Win the national title? Frost in year 4 is probably going to win 1 game in the big 10 and finish last place, maybe 2 if he can beat Iowa. Was a 3-9 last place season in year 4 part of the 6 year plan?

What about all of the close losses to top teams? That proves that Nebraska is on the right track to being more competitative.

 

[Husker69]

The reality is no one knows if the Frost experiment will turnaround. You hope his six years as a head coach will create wisdom and better instincts in decisions and management of the whole program. His givebacks in salary and especially his buyout is impressive for the reality, analysis and love of Nebraska. He has been humbled in the Big Ten.

So many on here thought the buyouts were not a financial impediment for a so-called another head coaching change. The need was so great, the ending was so clear. Tell that to the decision-makers and very wealthy and influential big boosters. They tire of our reality which many on here think is just a new head coach and staff away. True, but hardly a given or assured at all. Step back and ride peacefully into the sunset, tornado, hurricane or just another sunrise.

 

[redwine65]

I don't know about you but I'd rather we stayed more balanced. We're not going to survive having to force the run behind our line..

especially when they play passing patty cake block, not run pancake block

 

[B1G RED RULES]

What about all of the close losses to top teams? That proves that Nebraska is on the right track to being more competitative.

What do close losses to Illinois, Minnesota and Purdue suggest?

 

[NikkiSixx]

The offense will change when they put another QB back there that is a natural leader.

So to me, the big "If Then" statement is who is going to be the QB next year.

I think it matters more than who the OC is going to be.

 

[redwine65]

The offense will change when they put another QB back there that is a natural leader.

So to me, the big "If Then" statement is who is going to be the QB next year.

I think it matters more than who the OC is going to be.

just ask bury switzer, he knows
it's mostly bout the jimmy's and joe's

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

The reality is no one knows if the Frost experiment will turnaround. You hope his six years as a head coach will create wisdom and better instincts in decisions and management of the whole program. His givebacks in salary and especially his buyout is impressive for the reality, analysis and love of Nebraska. He has been humbled in the Big Ten.

So many on here thought the buyouts were not a financial impediment for a so-called another head coaching change. The need was so great, the ending was so clear. Tell that to the decision-makers and very wealthy and influential big boosters. They tire of our reality which many on here think is just a new head coach and staff away. True, but hardly a given or assured at all. Step back and ride peacefully into the sunset, tornado, hurricane or just another sunrise.

Like yourself Husker69, I also don't know if the Frost experiment will turnaround, but I would be willing to wager that it will not.

From the time SF has been here, this program has been all about hyperbole and bullshitting people. I can't imagine a coach being so much in bed with one QB who continues to under perform. Every weekend I see 8-10 kids that could come in here and easily be the starter, if it was legit.

Frost had a free pass, he let this program go to shit. The lack of details in so many areas is inexcusable. I think we all have Frost way overrated. He's a smart guy, and a lousy head coach.

Not that it matters, but I'm ready to take any incoming directed at me for what I say and have said about SF as a head coach. I think in college football he is one of the very best OC in that area. I also think he is a crappy play caller who prevents himself from ever getting into a rhythm or groove.

 

[otismotis08]

The offense will change when they put another QB back there that is a natural leader.

So to me, the big "If Then" statement is who is going to be the QB next year.

I think it matters more than who the OC is going to be.

Great point

 

[OO Snipes]

Campbell turned Iowa State around in 2 years

Kiffin turned Ole Miss around in 2 years

Pittman turned Arkansas around in 2 years

Tucker turned Michigan State around in 2 years

Rhule turned Baylor around in 2 years after a major scandal

Fitzgerald turned Northwestern around in 3 years

But Nebraska takes 6 years to re-build? Nonsense. Especially in the era of the transfer portal.

Outside of Arkansas and Iowa st, all of those schools are in talent fertile areas.

 

[pgainey]

The offense will change when they put another QB back there that is a natural leader.

So to me, the big "If Then" statement is who is going to be the QB next year.

I think it matters more than who the OC is going to be.

With all the deficiencies that go along with Martinez I am skeptical that there is currently a qb on the roster that is anywhere near an upgrade

maybe one will develop but I sense there is a huge drop off between AM and the number 2 and it certainly isn’t because AM is playing like an all American

need a portal guy which will be difficult if AM is returning

 

[otismotis08]

With all the deficiencies that go along with Martinez I am skeptical that there is currently a qb on the roster that is anywhere near an upgrade

maybe one will develop but I sense there is a huge drop off between AM and the number 2 and it certainly isn’t because AM is playing like an all American

need a portal guy which will be difficult if AM is returning

Need 2 or 3 QBs from the portal.

 

[Husker.Wed.]

Not that it matters, but I'm ready to take any incoming directed at me for what I say and have said about SF as a head coach.

Why should you expect incoming? Everyone who follows Nebraska football and is honest with himself knows you are right. I have worked and volunteered for a number of dysfunctional organizations and the parallels of how they were/are run to how Frost runs his team are the same. Playing favorites, being wedded to low performers for whatever reason, unwillingness to change, never honestly pointing the thumb, insistence good change will happen "soon", lack of attention to detail, unwillingness to delegate, fanatical and smug belief he has the answer when the organization is failing, and probably several other things I can't remember right now.

 

[kidofSN]

With the rules it takes to get into Northwestern saying it is in fertile recruiting ground is just plain WRONG. They have NO advantage over any team in the Big Ten due to admission rules!

 

[huskerfan66]

Chinander handles the defensive assistants and frost is in charge of the offense

it’s why chins makes 800k and the OC 500k

I would be very surprised if Frost doesn't have ultimate veto power. He's the one making 5 mil.

 

[NikkiSixx]

With all the deficiencies that go along with Martinez I am skeptical that there is currently a qb on the roster that is anywhere near an upgrade

maybe one will develop but I sense there is a huge drop off between AM and the number 2 and it certainly isn’t because AM is playing like an all American

need a portal guy which will be difficult if AM is returning

I hear you, but I would like to see us really give HH a serious look, depending on what we get through the portal, even assuming that will happen.

He has the size, and raw talent, just needs reps. Personally, I think that kid might be a good leader too. lots of upside, but raw.

Torres is also raw.. I still find his film somewhat comical, but he could develop into someone too.

Key words for the young guys are 'develop'..

we don't have time for that next year and really need a couple of upperclass qb's. I would not waste my time on a portal underclassman at QB.

 

[Husker.Wed.]

Ill – Sitkowski RS sophomore

OU - Rattler RS sophomore

MSU – Thorne RS sophomore

OSU – Stroud freshman

I don't know why we always have great gnashing of teeth about giving a young QB a chance when other teams seem to have no problem carving us up with theirs. Just because McCaffery was a bust doesn't mean we can't try LS or HH.

 

[Laner2]

I would say a 3 year build if your going to run the ball
but at least 6 years if your trying to build air Nebraska

Expanding on this a bit.......


I was happy with Frost's hire and his recent retention. Having said that, Frost arrived at NU as a coach with zero understanding of what it took to win the B1G. His perception of winning was colored by his time at UO and UCF.

The B1G is a different animal with above average staffs and personnel. He's been humbled and I think he realizes that the same-ol same-ol isn't cutting it.

Whatever 2022 brings, it will be different. I hope it'll be better, but for sure it will be different because Trev won't go one more year of same-ol. And since Frost knows that the knives are out, he'll do whatever it takes to get better.

Due to his misread of the B1G and bad staff decisions (NO SPECIAL TEAMS COACH----------------ONE THIRD OF YOUR GAME???????????????) the rebuild of NU is going to take at least six years.

Look, I know I'm not telling you anything new, but Redwine's comment about a six year build (when it should have taken less) really struck home. Despite that, I still think keeping him for another year makes sense. We have GOT TO GET OFF THE COACHING CAROUSEL.

 

[x35goahs]

Campbell turned Iowa State around in 2 years

Kiffin turned Ole Miss around in 2 years

Pittman turned Arkansas around in 2 years

Tucker turned Michigan State around in 2 years

Rhule turned Baylor around in 2 years after a major scandal

Fitzgerald turned Northwestern around in 3 years

But Nebraska takes 6 years to re-build? Nonsense. Especially in the era of the transfer portal.

Well…people that know far more about college football than you do disagree with you.

 

[yunginsNU2]

Need 2 or 3 QBs from the portal.

I havent looked but wonder if anyone has landed 2 or 3 QBs in the transfer portal in the same year? Most kids in the portal are there because they want to play right away.. QBs especially since there is only 1 on the field at once..I dont think this is a possibility we might be fortunate to get 1..

 

[HuskerDrew]

They can only say that because they don’t give a shat about Nebraska football winning.

 

[Boiler_B]

Outside of Arkansas and Iowa st, all of those schools are in talent fertile areas.

Northwestern is? Have you seen their recruiting rankings the last 20 years?

And what does that matter? NU has always recruited nationally.
Baylor doesnt get the first pick of the TX talent, they are down on that talent list behind Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma etc...

How about Wisconson? When Barry Alvarez turned them around in 4 years (where he won 10 games) they were a dumpster fire, they were losing to Drake in football the year prior to Alvarez taking over. Yet he was able to turn around a program with no cache, no name, no history, aka no recruiting advantages...in a place with talent similar to Nebraska..
And he did it in 4 years, no portal, no frosh playing 4 games.

No Blue blood school has EVER given a coach with 3 straight losing seasons to start off a 4th year...ONLY Nebraska has..and we are giving him a 5th year which is absurd. It is a true slap in the face to NU fans.

 

[Boiler_B]

Well…people that know far more about college football than you do disagree with you.

No one in their right mind would think any turnaround takes more than 4 years.
There has not been a coach that turned out to be a pretty good coach that started off with 4 straight losings seasons at the P5 level..in the last 50 years. ZERO none, nada.
But Scott Frost is going to rewrite history?

LOL

BS>

 

[cheddarwurst]

How many wins is acceptable next year? I hope it's low because i want frost to coach nebraska for the rest of history.